Society & Culture Farmers

[Off The Couch]

That's all wonderful, but would you care to blanket that cover over the entire continent and get back to me please?
You know, statistics and stuff.

I never said it applied across the entire continent only that overseas buyers and mining companies were impacting on farming now and going forward.

You have a serious chip and your dismissive shitty responses are totally unnecessary and not conducive to any real conversation.

Thegibbsgamble post was an example - Indigenous groups could be a font of information and part of the solution and should be part of any consultations around drought and land sustainability but they are totally ignored when history shows working together has resulted in positive results and yet you not only dismissed that but called his post shit

I’ll always buy Australian produce first but that doesn’t mean that I’m really that invested in farmers woes atm while they continue to support the likes of Taylor, Joyce, McKenzie and McCormack who are doing jackshit to help and in fact appear to be only helping themselves.

 

[Firestarter]

Living in Australia and getting your fish from northern europe --- are you trolling breh???

Reminds me of a Kitchen Nightmares UK episode where Gordon is aghast at the restaurant importing seabass from Greece while the restaurant itself is in Brighton.

 

[Off The Couch]

Living in Australia and getting your fish from northern europe --- are you trolling breh???

I’m from a fishing town and have always preferred local and to some degree that even applies to fish from the east coast but after seeing fish farms in Vietnam and Thailand, I would rather go without than ever buy or eat seafood from overseas.

 

[edgie]

Are people honestly happy eating fruit and veg shipped from third world countries over eating our fresh, home grown produce because it's a little bit cheaper? fu** me. How about Australians just help out other Australians for a change

No.

I'm happy eating it because it won't wreck our already incredibly fragile ecosystem.

How about Australians help other Australians out and stop sucking the waterways dry to line their pockets?


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[Scotland]

Thegibbsgamble post was an example - Indigenous groups could be a font of information and part of the solution and should be part of any consultations around drought and land sustainability but they are totally ignored when history shows working together has resulted in positive results and yet you not only dismissed that but called his post s**t

I actually disagree with this because traditionally indigenous weren't agriculturalists. At best they were subsistence farmers, but agriculture in Australia isnt about how best to use an acre to feed the people that live on it, it's about how to the maximum production of whatever you are growing. So they could learn, but they don't want to.

 

[Off The Couch]

I actually disagree with this because traditionally indigenous weren't agriculturalists. At best they were subsistence farmers, but agriculture in Australia isnt about how best to use an acre to feed the people that live on it, it's about how to the maximum production of whatever you are growing. So they could learn, but they don't want to.

That’s very true but if I’m honest I was probably referring more to caring for Country in general than just farms and pastoral stations. Consultation on repairing our river systems, fire management etc was more what I was leaning towards and surely even some of those practices could be put in place on farms or they would at least be going someways to helping fix some of the issues.

 

[Craven Morehead]

That’s very true but if I’m honest I was probably referring more to caring for Country in general than just farms and pastoral stations. Consultation on repairing our river systems, fire management etc was more what I was leaning towards and surely even some of those practices could be put in place on farms or they would at least be going someways to helping fix some of the issues.

As Scotland posted, our blackfella's were subsistence agriculturalists and hardly a font of knowledge on all things farming.
Hence my so called shitty and dismissive responses when rebutted with such stuff.
In actual fact we WANT to re-adopt some aboriginal practices, especially with regards to fire and managing fuel loads and weed control.
But no, IDIOTIC city based Green politicians, and their fellow MORONIC supporters, deem fire to be a bad thing for the ecology, despite it being a vital indigenous tool for thousands of years.
Now, anyone who is unfortunate enough to border with State/Crown/National Parks lands sees the areas becoming an absolute fire storm waiting to happen and a weed infested wasteland.
We can't manage our own land by thinning vegetation to maintain grass cover and prevent soil erosion which eventually ends up on our reef systems.
We are systematically blamed for all of the ecology's woes and issues by IGNORANT city people who wouldn't have the faintest idea on best farming practice, yet scream blue murder because they saw something once on the telly.
We are blamed for our political persuasions, despite a whole heap of city based people voting similarly and a long history of left leaning political parties absolutely ruining agriculture during their tenures.
So yeah, I have a chip on my shoulder, and I am far from alone in having one out here.
A well known saying...

 

[Elroo]

Well, aren't you the great little patriot.
You harp on about adhering to Australian Food Safety Standards, but what you don't realise is that food standards aren't policed by anyone at all from our side internationally.
An agreement is signed and in it comes.
It's only when someone gets sick that the food standards kick in and things get investigated. and products get recalled off shelves.
It's a bit late then, hey?

I almost had a tear in my eye as I ate my UK produced oats and consumed my Orange juice sourced from Europe for breakfast this morning; am I not an Australian Patriot?

Lucky I also held it back as I got dressed, putting on my Chinesse made jeans, my t-shirt from Haiti, my Bangladeshi shoes, checked my korean made phone, put on my Swiss made watch; good god, me not an Australian Patriot!!!

I still held it in and I walked outside to my European made car which I drove to my Foreign owned service station, and then filled up with diesel that had probably been refined in Singapore, and shipped here on a foreign owned and crewed merchant vessel, surely not me, I couldn't be non-patriotic!!

I then drove and parked my car in a Hong Kong owned carpark, walked to a foreign owned francise cafe and requested the PNG sourced coffee beans; they asked me if I wanted milk, I told them only if I as a patriotic Australia could ensure the milk was fresh and locally produced to help the Aussie battling farmers out; me not patriotic, the horror!

I then sat at my German made ergonomic desk, with my relaxing german made chair, as I turned on my Japanesse made PC; me not patriotic, I have Australian milk for gods sake!

Lucky for me, my Korean made phone let me know I had an email from a foreign airline offering me holiday specials in Asia; good god not patriotic, the nerve as I drank my foreign coffee with Australian Milk!

 

[Scotland]

That’s very true but if I’m honest I was probably referring more to caring for Country in general than just farms and pastoral stations. Consultation on repairing our river systems, fire management etc was more what I was leaning towards and surely even some of those practices could be put in place on farms or they would at least be going someways to helping fix some of the issues.

Yep I see what you are getting at and it has validity, but very few people want to accept the realities of sustainability. I know the hills areas around Perth well and CALM/DPAW/whatever they are called now used to do controlled burns all the time. You'd burn off an area to get rid of ground cover etc. then let it regenerate over time. Areas that have been burnt off 5, 10, 20 years ago you would walk by today and not know it had occurred. I don't think there are many farmers out there who are interested in planting native trees etc. that are good for the soil but won't make them any revenue, or abandoning pastoral lots for years at a time to let them regenerate.

Our river systems are stuffed because we keep making them do things they didn't do without human intervention. The Murray-Darling is cooked because we took so much water out of it. The Snowy is a glorified creek because we dammed it for hydro power. The Swan used to have regular algal blooms because we leached fertiliser into it. Humans are ****ed.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

That’s very true but if I’m honest I was probably referring more to caring for Country in general than just farms and pastoral stations. Consultation on repairing our river systems, fire management etc was more what I was leaning towards and surely even some of those practices could be put in place on farms or they would at least be going someways to helping fix some of the issues.

He has got you fooled, he is relying on your ignorance to hijak the debate

he's using racist properganda. If you source the first white explorers and settlers, diaries you'll read their accounts of the civilisation here. Before wiped out by biological warfare.

The first farmers

THE still common assumption is that Aboriginal Australians in 1788 were simple hunter-gatherers who relied on chance for survival and moulded their lives to the country where they lived. Historian Bill Gammage might have driven the last nail into the coffin of this notion.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Scotland]

Oxygen thief.