FB statuses decoded.

[Catfish Alley]

I dont know im not a law fan.

But to publish a photo and a potentially career ending story about someone that MAY be true to a quarter of a million people should not be legal.

What kind of employer would sack somebody for having an affair though? They'd bring a huge lawsuit against themselves. Unless he's in the senate or something. Then he'd probably get paid off with benefits.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I didn't ask whether you'd deserve it, I asked whether you're ok with it happening to anyone and everyone.

I'm OK with it happening to anyone and everyone who is stupid enough to loudly brag in public about how dumb their wife is to not catch him cheating on her.

And anyway, who decides if you "deserve" it?

Society. Or at least the section of society that's on Facebook. The only reason that you and I are talking about this right now is because hundreds of thousands of people have decided that he deserved it by sharing the picture. If I posted a photo on Facebook tomorrow saying 'OMG, this guy was jaywalking across the road! Like and share to bring him to justice!', then nobody would care, it wouldn't get shared and it would be a non-issue.

This is an extremely basic, extremely serious violation of somebody's rights and privacy.

If you want privacy, then don't speak loudly in public about all of the horrible things you've done in your life. The guy in the photo brought this upon himself.

 

[nicky]

For what though? What would be the difference if somebody overheard the conversation and told the wife directly?

Agree, why should she bare sole responsibility for this getting out of hand? No way. These guys behaved ridiculously enough to get noticed and sound like thugs who deserve a bit of shit.
The woman has reacted in accordance with her outrage at the arrogance and arseholeness displayed by these thugs. But she's displayed a lack of foresight in how out of hands these things can get.
And then social media has reacted predictably.

If anything the woman and thugs should both learn a lesson from this.... but to say there should be prosecution etc - please, get a grip of yourself.

 

[vealesy]

Agree, why should she bare sole responsibility for this getting out of hand? No way. These guys behaved ridiculously enough to get noticed and sound like thugs who deserve a bit of shit.
The woman has reacted in accordance with her outrage at the arrogance and arseholeness displayed by these thugs. But she's displayed a lack of foresight in how out of hands these things can get.
And then social media has reacted predictably.

If anything the woman and thugs should both learn a lesson from this.... but to say there should be prosecution etc - please, get a grip of yourself.

Do you know either of the partys involved?

No. So how do you know who deserves what.

At least the silly mole has opened herself up to receiving the same treatment and had better not **** up in public for the rest of her life.

 

[Poseidon]

Agree, why should she bare sole responsibility for this getting out of hand? No way. These guys behaved ridiculously enough to get noticed and sound like thugs who deserve a bit of shit.
The woman has reacted in accordance with her outrage at the arrogance and arseholeness displayed by these thugs. But she's displayed a lack of foresight in how out of hands these things can get.
And then social media has reacted predictably.

If anything the woman and thugs should both learn a lesson from this.... but to say there should be prosecution etc - please, get a grip of yourself.

How do you know she hasn't exaggerated or even completely pulled it out of her arse?
This is why it's so dangerous, someone posts something and the masses eat it up.

 

[Catfish Alley]

How do you know she hasn't exaggerated or even completely pulled it out of her arse?
This is why it's so dangerous, someone posts something and the masses eat it up.

I don't have Facebook but isn't that the whole point? People say what they think and gossip on friends, photos, celebrities, society etc.

 

[nicky]

How do you know she hasn't exaggerated or even completely pulled it out of her arse?
This is why it's so dangerous, someone posts something and the masses eat it up.

How do you know she hasn't been conservative in her description of what happened? i.e. toned the description of their behavior down?

Anyway, the bold is the issue, not that this woman is a devil woman hoe that veasley the fkwit is claiming she is.

 

[Catfish Alley]

How do you know she hasn't been conservative in her description of what happened? i.e. toned the description of their behavior down?

Anyway, the bold is the issue, not that this woman is a devil woman hoe that veasley the fkwit is claiming she is.

Don't forget mole.

 

[vealesy]

Maybe the guys wife is a ho too?

My point is nobody knows anything and should not be so ignorant to judge. Either way.

Those who gossip are lower than cheaters, imo.

Also, who doesn't cheat on their wife at some stage?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I'm OK with it happening to anyone and everyone who is stupid enough to loudly brag in public about how dumb their wife is to not catch him cheating on her.



Society. Or at least the section of society that's on Facebook. The only reason that you and I are talking about this right now is because hundreds of thousands of people have decided that he deserved it by sharing the picture. If I posted a photo on Facebook tomorrow saying 'OMG, this guy was jaywalking across the road! Like and share to bring him to justice!', then nobody would care, it wouldn't get shared and it would be a non-issue.



If you want privacy, then don't speak loudly in public about all of the horrible things you've done in your life. The guy in the photo brought this upon himself.

So let me get this straight. You're happy for total randoms to eavesdrop on a conversation, knowing nothing about the participants or having any context whatsoever, to make an arbitrary judgement on whether somebody "deserves" public humiliation... and then for potentially millions of other people to completely trust this observation and contribute to this humiliation.

So how loudly are we allowed to speak? Do you spend much time on crowded trains? You can hear any conversation you want within a close radius. People don't need to be speaking loudly. Some people have a bit of a lack of self awareness too, so I guess they deserve it too. Should we just cover our mouths whenever in public and whisper to each other, careful not to alert the ubiquitous moral police?

And thanks for pointing out that jaywalking isn't on the same level as adultery when slandering somebody's reputation. Glad I had that explained to me.

 

[HahnPremium]

Agree, why should she bare sole responsibility for this getting out of hand? No way. These guys behaved ridiculously enough to get noticed and sound like thugs who deserve a bit of shit.
The woman has reacted in accordance with her outrage at the arrogance and arseholeness displayed by these thugs. But she's displayed a lack of foresight in how out of hands these things can get.
And then social media has reacted predictably.

If anything the woman and thugs should both learn a lesson from this.... but to say there should be prosecution etc - please, get a grip of yourself.

Thugs?
That's the problem with these things. Hyperbole and exaggeration tend to get out of hand.
These guys sound like dicks but saying they are thugs is a bit of a stretch.
By the time the 300,000th share rolls around, they will stand accused of genocide.

 

[vealesy]

I hear they r*ped purple monkey dishwashers.

Tell everyone quick!

 

[Bunk Moreland]

How do you know she hasn't been conservative in her description of what happened? i.e. toned the description of their behavior down?

Nobody knows, just like nobody has a clue about this guy or his life. Hence why it's completely unfair to plaster his photo around the world with some pretty vicious slander attached.

Somebody on the other side of the world saying "oh they look like dicks" or "they sound like thugs" isn't a fair assessment of somebody's character.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I'm still waiting for the law on this. Are you telling me Big Footy doesn't have one lawyer?? I'm shocked and appalled.

 

[Poseidon]

How do you know she hasn't been conservative in her description of what happened? i.e. toned the description of their behavior down?

Anyway, the bold is the issue, not that this woman is a devil woman hoe that veasley the fkwit is claiming she is.

Too right, we don't really know at all. That's why I always err on the side of caution and ignore these things. I don't feel right labelling someone based on nothing more than a photo and a caption by a stranger when they haven't had a chance to defend themselves or tell their side of the story.

Same goes for all those videos that get posted on places like /r/JusticePorn that are labelled 'Bully gets what he deserves' and all you see is a guy getting beaten up and no evidence to suggest he was the aggressor. There are many examples of stuff like this.

I'm still waiting for the law on this. Are you telling me Big Footy doesn't have one lawyer?? I'm shocked and appalled.

Caesar seems well versed in law.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I can't imagine that posts on Facebook can be considered slander at all. It's mostly used for people spouting their opinions from their soapbox. Zuckerberg would have been shut down long ago.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

According to the caption, the guy was talking loudly on a train for 2 hours about cheating on his wife. It'd be difficult to misconstrue that. I don't know why you're misrepresenting this as if it was some covert operation of a woman sneakily dropping in on their conversation, hearing one dodgy sounding sentence and then putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

To be clear, I'm only OK with this if what the women has said is an accurate description of what the guy was talking about. It's true that we don't know whether it is or not. But, IF it is, then good on her and **** that guy.

The guy was in a public place and he wasn't talking to her, he was in a conversation with somebody else. She was eavesdropping, maybe not purposefully initially, but FFS, she's hung around to two hours to listen to the lot. And the guy didn't know his photo was being taken, and didn't know it'd be broadcast around that world.

I'm not misrepresenting shit. That's completely covert and sneaky.

The problem is if you condone this is one case based on some uninformed, arbitrary moral judgement, you open the door for any random, moronic busybody to do the same based on their own uninformed, arbitrary moral judgement. That's a slippery slope to a shit of a world.

You can't just say its ok IF its true. That's the whole point, this woman (as much as she might think she does) doesn't have a clue if its true or not. Nor does anybody else.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I don't really care if it's true or not. Just interested in how the law applies online. If it's illegal then every photo without consent would have to be taken off social network sites.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I can't imagine that posts on Facebook can be considered slander at all. It's mostly used for people spouting their opinions from their soapbox. Zuckerberg would have been shut down long ago.

People have been sued for defamation for comments made on Facebook.

It's not about facebook themselves, it's the people who might say or do something defamatory whilst on Facebook.

It's actually just a website like any other, it doesn't exist in its own parallel universe.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I don't really care if it's true or not. Just interested in how the law applies online. If it's illegal then every photo without consent would have to be taken off social network sites.

I'm no lawyer but I beleive the laws of defamation don't just apply automatically and totally. If a person feels they've been defamed, it's up to them to bring an action. A judge then decides in a court. A judge isn't going to rule that somebody's been defamed if theres a photo of them and their girlfriend at a regular party or something.

 

[Catfish Alley]

A judge isn't going to rule that somebody's been defamed if theres a photo of them and their girlfriend at a regular party or something.

Yeah, I guess that is true. What if you defame somebody from another country? Hard to get a hold of somebody across borders. It's interesting. I imagine online law will be a huge thing in the future.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yeah, I guess that is true. What if you defame somebody from another country? Hard to get a hold of somebody across borders. It's interesting. I imagine online law will be a huge thing in the future.

Exactly. It's a legal and ethical shitstorm that we need to get our heads around, quickly. Technology has moved bloody quickly and unfortunately there's a downside to it.

I know one thing - if a News Ltd newspaper printed something like this by a journo who'd been sitting on a train, there's be an absolutely deafening amount of outrage. If its not cool for them to do it, it's not cool for just anybody to do it in a an age where one persons actions have such tremendous reach and power. There's a lot of scope for people to be hurt.

Happy to defer to any legal or ethical experts.

 

[Jimmy1992]

Also, who doesn't cheat on their wife at some stage?

Pretty much anyone with morals.

 

[Poseidon]

Also someone without a wife. Or a girlfriend. Or a good taste in fashion.

 

[vealesy]

Pretty much anyone with morals.

Thats a pretty big net you are casting for a young boy.