Wisdom wasn't a quote. It was in inverted commas to indicate sarcasm. Ie. You aren't very wise but seem very sure of yourself. I could trawl through this thread picking out examples of where you advocate for women to be submissive, subservient etc. but I'm not the type to trawl through information that is frustrating and nigh on self-evidently false. I'm no masochist.
You keep making the same mistake. You selectively cherry pick outcomes informed from a very narrow experience. Feminism isn't aimed at making women's lives better, that's just a happy by-product. It's largely about empowering women. For example, a common line in these discussions is to point out that poor men faced conscription and died in droves during wars compared to far fewer female casualties. A win for females right? An indication of a 'gynocentric' culture right? Wrong. It's a nice outcome. Not dying and such. But it stems from a direct lack of respect for women's agency.
Maybe some fringe African-American communities riddled with gang violence would have lead happier lives under a slave master. Shelter, food etc. But give people the options and the overwhelming majority will value their agency over outcome. You paint history like women have been staying home, out of danger, not having to work, sponging off of men as a whole as if the female populous subconsciously colluded to get an easy ride. If I even have to begin explaining how wrong that is to you then I simply won't bother.
As for the quip about male feminists being a product of an inability to get laid or whatever, you're just deluded.
You keep making the same mistake. You selectively cherry pick outcomes informed from a very narrow experience. Feminism isn't aimed at making women's lives better, that's just a happy by-product. It's largely about empowering women. For example, a common line in these discussions is to point out that poor men faced conscription and died in droves during wars compared to far fewer female casualties. A win for females right? An indication of a 'gynocentric' culture right? Wrong. It's a nice outcome. Not dying and such. But it stems from a direct lack of respect for women's agency.
Maybe some fringe African-American communities riddled with gang violence would have lead happier lives under a slave master. Shelter, food etc. But give people the options and the overwhelming majority will value their agency over outcome. You paint history like women have been staying home, out of danger, not having to work, sponging off of men as a whole as if the female populous subconsciously colluded to get an easy ride. If I even have to begin explaining how wrong that is to you then I simply won't bother.
As for the quip about male feminists being a product of an inability to get laid or whatever, you're just deluded.

