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Why else is it relevant a woman is fighting a war when men have been fighting them for thousands of years?

The funny thing is it simply highlights the female privilege that exists that they're making a big deal out of women fighting in a war in 2015.
Not prepared to face palm again as it hurt.
 

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No they aren't feminists. Feminists believe in superiority, not equality.

If war broke out you wouldnt see any of those privileged middle class white whining women rocking up to the war zone.

The enemy would give them rape eyes and they'd have to go back to social media and complain about it to everyone, maybe make a youtube about it.

No, those Kurdish women are about equality, not superiority. They'd be conservative women at heart because they are patriots.
Yeah, I agree. Western women don't fight for equality, if they did - they would be FAR more vocal about issues beyond Western borders. These Western feminists are extremely vocal when a female is killed inside their borders, but disinterested when 'hundreds' are slain outside of Western borders. Western women just care about themselves and their own agenda, this was never more evident than last year - when I guy made a scientific discovery, and all feminists could do as to rip into him over a 'T-shirt'. I think that basically sums up where we are at with feminism in the West.
 

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Why else is it relevant a woman is fighting a war when men have been fighting them for thousands of years?

The funny thing is it simply highlights the female privilege that exists that they're making a big deal out of women fighting in a war in 2015.
You don't think the women raped during war, raped after war, used as a prize after war, killed during war, don't count for anything?

What kind of ignorant, selfish sexist believes men bear the sole consequences of war?
 

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Yeah, I agree. Western women don't fight for equality, if they did - they would be FAR more vocal about issues beyond Western borders. These Western feminists are extremely vocal when a female is killed inside their borders, but disinterested when 'hundreds' are slain outside of Western borders. Western women just care about themselves and their own agenda, this was never more evident than last year - when I guy made a scientific discovery, and all feminists could do as to rip into him over a 'T-shirt'. I think that basically sums up where we are at with feminism in the West.
Western feminism has admitted to being concerned with issues concerning Western women.

Much of feminism's efforts over the past 30 years.

Rather than using the sexist trope of selfish women, you can have a look at the re-making feminism has given itself.
 

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You don't think the women raped during war, raped after war, used as a prize after war, killed during war, don't count for anything?

What kind of ignorant, selfish sexist believes men bear the sole consequences of war?
What has that got to do with what I said?

Nothing.

I asked why is it a big deal in 2015 that women are doing what men have been doing for thousands of years? Fighting and dying.

Could it be that due to their sex they were afforded a privilege not to have to face that shit?

What you brought up is a totally different issue.
 

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I asked why is it a big deal in 2015 that women are doing what men have been doing for thousands of years? Fighting and dying.
Is that a badge of honour? Running up beaches into waiting machine guns?

You made the claim that men bear the consequences of war.

I pointed how monumentally stupid that claim was.
 

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Is that a badge of honour? Running up beaches into waiting machine guns?

You made the claim that men bear the consequences of war.

I pointed how monumentally stupid that claim was.
They do.

In a far more deadly way than women.

How did Australian, American and British women bare the consequences of WW2 as compared to their men? Go on tell me. Tell me how many were raped during war, raped after war, used as a prize after war, killed during war. It must be in such signifigant and comparable numbers to the men who died that it validates your argument.

I mean if it doesn't, well gee that would seem their female privilege saved them from such horrors.
 

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They do.

In a far more deadly way than women.

How did Australian, American and British women bare the consequences of WW2 as compared to their men? Go on tell me. Tell me how many were raped during war, raped after war, used as a prize after war, killed during war. It must be in such signifigant and comparable numbers to the men who died that it validates your argument.

I mean if it doesn't, well gee that would seem their female privilege saved them from such horrors.
My grandma lost three brothers, and a part of a husband that never returned from war, my other one ended up lumbered with four children under twelve, and no father for them at wars end. They also served.
 

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They do.

In a far more deadly way than women.

How did Australian, American and British women bare the consequences of WW2 as compared to their men? Go on tell me. Tell me how many were raped during war, raped after war, used as a prize after war, killed during war. It must be in such signifigant and comparable numbers to the men who died that it validates your argument.

I mean if it doesn't, well gee that would seem their female privilege saved them from such horrors.
You'll find that the women living where these troops were had a very difficult time.

Are you really sitting there trying to claim females are privileged during war time? You aware that the effects of war arent confined to active combatants? And are you aware that women have not been allowed to be active combatants?

Actually, let's go back a step. Do you acknowledge rape has been used as tool of war and do you agree this is a bad thing?
 

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This is not an attitude that belongs in a modern 21st century country.

It is the type of attitude that drives rape and violence towards women.
You are quite right, but you are also wasting your intelligence on these people. They are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
 

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You are quite right, but you are also wasting your intelligence on these people. They are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
This notion that women sit in ivory towers while working class men fight and die is the dumbest and horrendously bigoted thing Ive heard on here in a while.

Their hatred of women is clouding the ability to think rationally. **** me. And then you've got this other nut talking about cock carousels. Half of these morons will be in prison one day.
 

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My grandma lost three brothers, and a part of a husband that never returned from war, my other one ended up lumbered with four children under twelve, and no father for them at wars end. They also served.
They didn't die.
 

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This notion that women sit in ivory towers while working class men fight and die is the dumbest and horrendously bigoted thing Ive heard on here in a while.
They do.

Only a moron would argue anything they experience is comparable to those who are at war.

So argue away.


Their hatred of women is clouding the ability to think rationally. **** me. And then you've got this other nut talking about cock carousels. Half of these morons will be in prison one day.
Actually I think you'll find they hate men like you the most.

The women are simply amusing.
 

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This notion that women sit in ivory towers while working class men fight and die is the dumbest and horrendously bigoted thing Ive heard on here in a while.
Do you believe rape against women has been used as a tool of war, and do you think this is a bad thing?
 

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Do you believe rape against women has been used as a tool of war, and do you think this is a bad thing?
Absolutely it's part of war. Are you saying it was a directive of the Allied forces high command to rape any Axis women they got their hands on?

Wars are about power, rape is about power, killing is about power. It's a power struggle.

It's a very bad thing. But guess what, bad shit happens in wars. Very bad shit.

Anyone who is excused from fighting in one is indeed privileged.
 

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Those who commit sexual assault often share tesseract's views that women are essentially selfish sluts, who tease men, are a prize obtainable through force. Also, to my knowledge, tesseract has not denied that women invite rape.
You quoted a line which said "young women riding the cock carousel", you didn't say anything about selfish sluts, teasing men, prize obtainable through force etc.
 
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