Fev sacked

[astro_toby]

Ok ill ask you this, Lets just say a gunmen goes on a shooting spree, He gets caught and goes to jail. He claims he did this because he was depressed, Does this make him any less guilty because he was depressed? Are the jury going to go easier on here because he was Depressed? is he gonna get any sympathy simply because he was depressed?

The answer for me would be no, no, and no Why? as serious as depression is he is old enough to know between right and wrong. As an AFL player he would had access to Counsellors, and doctors and could have seen anyone at any time.

Fevola has had so many chances given to him during his AFL career and yet he still chose to act up and do the wrong thing. If you constantly **** up at a job that you have you get fired and thats exactly what Brisbane has done. They and I'm sure alot of their fans have just about enough of hearing about Fevola in the news etc etc. I honestly feel for fev right now I just hope he gets his life back on track, BUT he only has his self to blame here he was given a chance by the Lions and instead of starting off fresh he decided to muck up.

If the alone comparison you can dream up is comparing him to someone who shoots and kills people - it shows how much you totally don't understand the situation.

Someone who shoots people to kill them is not depressed - he is insane.

Someone who drinks too much booze and is self destructive in his personal life and suffers from depression is NOT insane

the knowledge and understanding of people who suffer from depression in this country is extremely poor -and the fact you just compared a depressive fevola to a insane, murdering serial killer completely shows it

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Can't say enough how much of a bullet Collingwood dodged.

But having said that, if anyone outside Carlton had any semblance of a chance at getting Fev straight, it was Eddie and Mick.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

Can't say enough how much of a bullet Collingwood dodged.

But having said that, if anyone outside Carlton had any semblance of a chance at getting Fev straight, it was Eddie and Mick.

Oh come on, it was only a year ago that everyone was predicting that Voss wouldn't take any shit from Fev, and that his hard-nosed approach would sort the big idiot out.

 

[lemon chicken]

Admitted he had a gambling problem... whilst at Carlton.

Lara Bingle photo's before landing at Brisbane.

Family day allegations that Brisbane took public... and then cleared him of (that was very sus that one)

Locked up on NYE - case yet to be heard.

Anything else?

Trying to get into Revolver pissed at 6 or 7 am whilst in Melb to get injury treatment.

There was something involving his ex missus birthday as well i think which he was told not to attend IIRC.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Thanks Vossy for Henderson and Lucas.

 

[ManWithNoName]

This debate's still going. On my phone so I'll respond to individual posts later, my point is this:

He's been sacked mid-contract, and Brisbane are refusing to pay him out. To justify that it will have to be something HUGE. And I've not heard anything that serious, let alone "persistent" as Brisbane described it. And an earlier poster brought up that Cousins on drugs wasn't reported. Footy media is a shitload more intense now. Can't compare the two

 

[Costanza_]

GWS Giants, Sheeds would be watching this space

This. Fevola will be playing for GWS next year.

 

[Daytripper]

This debate's still going. On my phone so I'll respond to individual posts later, my point is this:

He's been sacked mid-contract and Brisbane are refusing to pay him out. To justify that it will have to be something HUGE. And, a I've not heard anything that serious, let alone "persistent" as Brisbane described it. And an earlier poster brought up that Cousins on drugs wasn't reported. Footy media is a shitload more intense now. Can't compare the two

Don't know where you're getting that from.

 

[Dragz]

The main stupidity from Brisbane, was not having behavioural clauses in his contract to start with. It's not like his issues weren't well known.

 

[Perry Pie]

This. Fevola will be playing for GWS next year.

A pay for play contract might be the only way anyone, even GWS, should take him on. Pay his rent + $x,000 per game played, he does 10 games, he gets a bonus, full season/60 goals he gets more. Fails to play he gets his rent paid & medical support if injured but nothing else.

Not worth any more than that, and he has to realise that this or a similar deal is his only lifeline to stay in the sport.

 

[PTizzle]

The main stupidity from Brisbane, was not having behavioural clauses in his contract to start with. It's not like his issues weren't well known.

Read his contract have you? If Brisbane aren't paying him the full amount surely there would have been some kind of clause like that involved, unless the club is somehow expecting to avoid paying 1.5 million on a signed contract.

 

[newcastlefalcon]

For someone who reads and trusts media reports so much,
I am shocked that you among others have overlooked the
fact ( as reported by his manager) that Fev is well enough to leave the facility, as early as last week but had decided to stay on until a decision had been made by the club in regard to his future.
So give up the "shouldn't hve done it to a bloke who was down and in rehab" crap.
Fevola needed this decision made so he can continue onto the next stage of his treatment/recovery.
And don't even suggest that we should have just lied to him to make him feel better, kept him on until it was felt he could handle the rejection.

That is certainly one explanation for why he stayed but I am sure people in the mental health field could come up with many more. Maybe his depression was acute and unstable so that small changes or large changes like becoming uenemployed could have major negative consequences.

Voss and the club chose to pick up Fevola with eyes open, closing your eyes, throwing money and hoping that its goes away is not the culture of success.

 

[whatboutbob]

Sorry, but you've sacked a guy that is in rehabilitation for a mental health condition.

His indiscretions at the Lions total an impending court issue that has yet to be found one way or the other and hitting a baseball through some bloke's car.

If he has indeed been 'institutionalised' for depression, I'm not sure how kindly the AFL will take to his sacking, and am wondering whether this will go under Brisbane's TPP should any payout occur.

The Lions' head honchos met with the AFL bigwigs on Friday. There is simply no way this does not have the AFL's support.

Also, amidst the "won't somebody think of the children" arm-waving, I suspect a lot of people are overlooking this line from the club's press release:

The timing of this decision was based on medical advice.

 

[andrew23]

Sheedy has come out and said that he won't sign Fev at GWS

 

[WALL-e]

Sad day. Would have been nice to see the guy really fix his issues up whilst playing AFL, but alas, it's not to be.

Best of luck to him sorting out his personal issues away from the limelight.

 

[King Elvis]

It's a joke that Brisbane get salary cap support on this; they recruited him knowing full well what he was like, it shouldn't be up to the AFL to bail them up when it (unsurprisingly) went to crap.

 

[MISFITS]

From everything I've heard we felt much the same as Carlton did rather than your analysis.

Take his dismissal as you want, I really love watching the bloke play and am not totally behind it, but lets wait until his contract comes out and we see what clauses he broke. He would have to have broken some multiple times for this to occur with a lack of payout - the AFLPA and co (not to mention court) wouldn't allow it otherwise. I highly doubt Angus Johnson would either.

It's just bad for everyone involved and is the story of the week currently. We'll all move on and we can actually have a proper discussion (although on the main board, perhaps not, this is borderline Bay13 for the most part) when the facts come out.

The AFLPA?
Are you not forgetting who used to run the ALFPA? Demitrio.!
The AFL own the AFLPA, they even pay their wages..
Trust me Demitrio and the AFL will be the winners.
Quote SEN..December 2010
Harford(inteviewer): Now the AFLPA has come into some question about it's close relationship to the AFL...would you even come into conflict the AFL?
Luke Power(the Latest Clown President of the AFLPA):...."Oh no, we wouldn't do that..!"

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Sad day indeed. This is going to make it even harder for him to turn his life around.

 

[db swannie]

Fev gets a payout of over a million, has got bookies chasing him for dough, his family life in ruins, no job, with a couple of addictions and fighting depression, and the likliehood of relapse very high...I really hope Fev gets some good people around him - and soon - or else I fear there is worse for Brendan in store not too far down the track.

 

[Godzke]

Sheedy has come out and said that he won't sign Fev at GWS

It's curtains then. Who would take him? Remote chance that maybe the Suns would be interested but on a heavily discounted contract.

edit*: actually the Suns would be the last team to pick him... would lead their young group astray. I can't think of any club that would throw him a 2nd, 3rd, however many it's been, lifeline.

 

[Stamos]

Fev is an idiot.
But since about Round 8ish last year when Brisbane came to the shock realisation that they were not going to win the Premiership and they had well and truly buggered up in drafting him, he was in the gun.
The way the Lions have treated him is disgraceful. Fev isn't the only one who won't take responsibility for his actions.


Fev's 8 goals in Round 3 2007 to help Carlton overcome a 48 point deficit against the hated Bombers is one of the best things I have ever seen in football.

I hope he gets his life in order.

 

[Dragz]

Read his contract have you? If Brisbane aren't paying him the full amount surely there would have been some kind of clause like that involved, unless the club is somehow expecting to avoid paying 1.5 million on a signed contract.

No, I haven't. Going on Articles like this one at http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/10/09/1255019609038.html

with quotes from Michael Voss

Voss said there was no guarantee Fevola wouldn't stray again but insisted there were no behavioural clauses in his contract

 

[sammy 2]

It's curtains then. Who would take him? Remote chance that maybe the Suns would be interested but on a heavily discounted contract.

edit*: actually the Suns would be the last team to pick him... would lead their young group astray. I can't think of any club that would throw him a 2nd, 3rd, however many it's been, lifeline.

no chance to play again,the afl have been trying to get rid of him for years and it would be a very very brave club to pick him up and go against the afl wishes,remember the afl gets what it wants or else.

 

[krusden]

Sheedy has come out and said that he won't sign Fev at GWS

that's right now.

after it dies down in a year's time or thereabouts he could easily say "we've reviewed the situation and fevola has done well and he's worth the punt etc etc".

 

[laminex]

He will be paid out, so livelihood is probably not the right term.

Regardless, we aren't a rehab clinic. We have done more to help him than anyone else.

You are like you club, 2 faced dog with flees. Bragging and carrying on like a fool when you traded for him. Now you turn your back. Carlton, The AFL and The Lions should all hang there heads in shame.