Fevola!

[THEBLOODS85]

It is just getting pathetic we win u all love fev we lose and all u guys ever do is look to bag him... not sure why half of u even watch the games.

How about focusing on our poor skill execution all nite and constant fumbling from T-Bird, Waite, Edwards etc

Could not agree more 'Big Red'........a lot of our supporters on here are pathetic jokes!

 

[EasternTiger]

You guys are worse than Richmond supporters who used to have a go at Richo for poor body language/dummy spits blah blah blah.

You have a FF who is the best set shot in the AFL and is only a few goals behind Buddy.

So what if he shook hands and joked around with Saints players. His confidence would have copped a whack tonight and thats how he reacts to a bad night.

In the words of Chopper "harden the f*** up"

I enjoyed watching the Blues spirited come back, but as often happens in the modern game the other team usually regroups and kicks ahead.

That Gibbs boy looked very, very good. Surely some positives there for you tonight.

 

[blues4flag]

I enjoyed watching the Blues spirited come back, but as often happens in the modern game the other team usually regroups and kicks ahead.

Exactly right. Modern football is a game of momentum - there are ebbs and flows, and the Saints were always going to kick one or two in a row. Being 33 points down at 3 quarter time is an almost unassailable lead - we're relying too often on our fast finishes to get us over the line, being behind at 3 quarter time for at least the last five games.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Sure some Carlton supporters may have found his attitude questionable but to be honest way to much is being made of his post match behaviour. Giving the free away was poor discipline but chalking your loss up to that is more than a stretch. He still managed 3 goals which is hardly aweful. He took a shot he probably shouldnt have and dropped a mark he should have taken..... but seriously bad disposal and skill errors are what cost you the match. There was some pretty poor delivery to him tonight yet he still managed 3 majors. At 64 goals after 15 rounds any talk of trade from fans is rediculous!

 

[Zombie Woof]

Sure his attitude may have been questionable but to be honest way to much is being made of his post match behaviour. Giving the free away was poor discipline but chalking your loss up to that is more than a stretch. He still managed 3 goals which is hardly aweful. May have missed a set shot that was within his ability and dropped a mark he should have taken..... but seriously bad disposal and skill errors are what cost you the match. There was some pretty poor delivery to him tonight yet he still managed 3 majors. At 64 goals after 15 rounds any talk of trade from fans is rediculous!

Mostly bad delivery and not all under pressure.

 

[albyg]

Delist him now I cannot believe he actually shook hands and talked to the opposition .... what a disgrace ... I saw Judd shake hands and hug Hayes delist him to... Carazzo smiled delist him... I think Murphy was last off thr ground maybe he was happy to hear the saints theme song delist him to

U idoits

Says it all about you champ, I think your spelling is equivalent to your knowledge about the game!

 

[MacMum]

Bucks bought up fev's after match performance on the tv. He gave fev a bit of a spray and was not rating it at all.

Yes, Bucks didn't hold back when he said "one bloke was out there trying his guts out for his team (Judd) the other one (Fev) didn't seem interested at all".........Fev seems to forget he's skating on thin ice already with the club,....... I'd be very concerned to be paying this guy loads of money with the attitude he shows.......such a shame, because he can be very likable...

 

[one eyed bluey]

I think after last nights performance, fev's value/contract would have just took a substantial hit in the crown jewells.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Fevola is an arse clown.

Now where are the "Fev loves Carlton" brigade?

 

[sherb]

I think after last nights performance, fev's value/contract would have just took a substantial hit in the crown jewells.

Hopefully so.

I want to see him paid for the player he is, not the one he is capable of being.

 

[Astro_]

Sure some Carlton supporters may have found his attitude questionable but to be honest way to much is being made of his post match behaviour. Giving the free away was poor discipline but chalking your loss up to that is more than a stretch. He still managed 3 goals which is hardly aweful. He took a shot he probably shouldnt have and dropped a mark he should have taken..... but seriously bad disposal and skill errors are what cost you the match. There was some pretty poor delivery to him tonight yet he still managed 3 majors. At 64 goals after 15 rounds any talk of trade from fans is rediculous!

Your missing the point. The Carlton supporters know poor disposal and skill errors cost them the match. However, are concerned about Fev's attitude last night. For someone who is demanding the big bucks and 27 years of age, you'd expect him to have the heart of an Eddie Betts and put in 100% each game. Anything less, then he becomes a liability to the club as shown last night. He is someone when on-song lifts the whole team and the spirit of the club. How do you expect Carlton to win the crunch games like last night when you see one of your "leaders" acting like that?

The fact that he kicked three goals from limited opportunity is pointless. If you play with that attitude week-in week-out your performances will taper and you become less consistent. There will be somedays where he may be held goalless, however during those games they need Fev tackling, chasing, applying pressure etc. and showing the team he wants to win. That was unacceptable last night any way you look at it.

Many Carlton players would have been hurting after last night-Not Fev. He found the time to joke around and be everyone's best mate once the siren went which was disappointing. To me thats a selfish attitude and not the main reason they play the game. Lets be honest, you would never see Bucks doing that.

 

[Big Red is back]

Did u clowns see him in the rooms after the game he looked gutted.

 

[blue gunslinger]

I saw Pam Anderson on Big Brother and I would not call that real
Disgraceful. Not good enough. We put up with too much!

 

[thegreenmachine]

Grow a brain... for god sake I bet every game I see this weekend will show someone from a losing side go up to another player from an opposition side and shake hands and have a laugh....

Pathetic post pathetic

I've had a bad week and I am going to do my best to be nice to people. Having said that, what you've just posted is not very nice. Pathetic, reminds me of the posts and threads you start on Bay 13. I think it's time you go back there.

Hopefully so.

I want to see him paid for the player he is, not the one he is capable of being.

Now there is someone with a brain. Well said.

 

[pidge]

It is just getting pathetic we win u all love fev we lose and all u guys ever do is look to bag him... not sure why half of u even watch the games.

How about focusing on our poor skill execution all nite and constant fumbling from T-Bird, Waite, Edwards etc

im with you so he had a bad game and we didnt break a ridiculous record wit the saints so what im sure sometime in the near future he'll kick a bag and win us a game and u will all be eating ur words. use were all the same wen carrazo had a bad game every1 called for his head. as for him hugging a saints player and congratulating him on a good win so wat has anyone heard the saying "wat happens on the field stays on the field". grow up and start supporting and not bagging every player that has a bad game

 

[blues2010]

Barracked for St,Kilda as a kid, and is possibly friends with some of the players there.

He played with Milne at Stingrays. Wasn't happy with his game but can't really expect him to hate everyone he plays against.

 

[blue gunslinger]

So explain the free kick and fifty afterwards. A bad game yes but a bad histoty as well. Leaders lead by example. What is he teaching our up an coming guns with these repeated displays?
Like another great poster sais, pay him for what he is doing not for what he has and could do!

 

[Bluebear]

It is just getting pathetic we win u all love fev we lose and all u guys ever do is look to bag him... not sure why half of u even watch the games.

How about focusing on our poor skill execution all nite and constant fumbling from T-Bird, Waite, Edwards etc

Yep. Quite right with the skill level of others, but I'll have you note that I bag Fev even when he kicks 7 and we win.

He is selfish. He plays for himself.

Right now Fev has a big decision to make.

Decision A:
Keep demanding the bigger "Champion" bucks, despite inability to perform consitently like a champion should. Performing consistently doesn't just mean kicking his goals.
This decision might mean being traded.

Decision B:
Show his understanding of the pressure on good sides, as the Lions, Dons, and Cats have done, by taking a bit less money to be part of something great. He can then be considered a leader at the club, sacraficing his own gains for the sake of the side.
This will see him stay at the Blues and will serve as a lesson to younger stars as they come up that there are more important things than pushing your price from $600k to $800k per year.


Being consistent means doing the team things ALL THE TIME. Like......for example......not turning your back on the play to complain to teamates or umpires.
He has done this in the last three rounds, and at least 6 or more times this year, when, if he had of kept playing the footy he would have directly influenced play.

That's selfish. In 3 or the 6 I can think of he kicked bags and we won. That doesn't excuse his behaviour.
Last night, when we had the upper hand in an arm wrestle, instead of being focussed on beating Hudghton, he wanted to grab him and "bitch slap" him in the face.

Turnover, 50m penalty and the tide had turned in the game for good.

Not the actions of a player who is the highest paid at the club.

I started a thread on whether to trade Fev the week after he kicked a bag vs the Dons.

It doesn't matter. He plays for himself, and will bleed the coffers dry for his own gain. Team success is secondary.

I left a couple of miutes before the siren so I didn't see him wlak off hugging saints player.

It is wrong. He should hurt. I want to see him kicking the ground. I want to see him reflecting on his own game and admonishing himself. Not sharing a joke with the victors.

Andrew Walker visibly showed anger and being upset just buy not being selected. Thats passion for the jumper.

But why would Fev care? He will get his money next year, whether its at our club or another. If thats all he cares about then his reaction is understandable.

I say again. Trade him now while he has huge value. The picks we get will come through with team oriented players like Murphy, Judd, Gibbs and Kreuzer, and will not learn selfish ways.

Trade him now.

He won't do much damage up at the SCG. Small ground, little space, selfish player in the most unselfish team in the league.
Give him 2 years before he wants to go somewhere else (or his teamates want him to go) and earns a "mercenary" tag.

 

[Carson_Kressley]

fevs is mates with a few of the stkilda players nothing wrong with that. i been out in the off season and seen some freo players hanging with west coast players. theres nothing wrong with having mates that play in the opposing team. now if it was collingwood players he was hanging with, you would have reason to stand up and say something simply because of the rivalry between the clubs. in the end of the day as long as he dont give away free kicks to his mates and cost us the game then who cares who he talks too when the game is over.

 

[Bluebear]

fevs is mates with a few of the stkilda players nothing wrong with that.

So have a beer with them after the game or go out for a pizza.
He didn't look like he was hurting from the fact that our season is just about over.
I saw Tuck from Richmond in tears on the boundary last week in the fourth Q when the game was lost.

He knew what the game meant, he knew he had given his all, and he still went out and shook hands.......but the loss hurt him badly.

Thats what it should do.

 

[Carson_Kressley]

So have a beer with them after the game or go out for a pizza.
He didn't look like he was hurting from the fact that our season is just about over.
I saw Tuck from Richmond in tears on the boundary last week in the fourth Q when the game was lost.

He knew what the game meant, he knew he had given his all, and he still went out and shook hands.......but the loss hurt him badly.

Thats what it should do.

seriously are you upset with the way we played this year compared to recent years. i for one am very proud to be a carlton supporter and am very proud of our efforts this year on the field . so we prolly wont make the 8 this year i didnt expect us too but 9th or 10th is good compared to what we been like. maybe the players feel the same maybe they think that we are a better side and can only get better. i wouldnt cry after last nights loss , i would hold my head up high for the season so far its been awesome in a rebuilding way.

 

[Bluebear]

seriously are you upset with the way we played this year compared to recent years. i for one am very proud to be a carlton supporter and am very proud of our efforts this year on the field . so we prolly wont make the 8 this year i didnt expect us too but 9th or 10th is good compared to what we been like. maybe the players feel the same maybe they think that we are a better side and can only get better. i wouldnt cry after last nights loss , i would hold my head up high for the season so far its been awesome in a rebuilding way.

No, I'm proud of where we are compared to where we could be.

What I don't tolerate is seeing players, with immense ability, not pushing themselves to the limit every week.

Wiggins, Bentick, Carrazzo, Simpson........all guys with limited ability, but not for one minute this year could I fault their attack on the ball, or their endeavour to try and help us win. They give their all every week. Judd comes off the ground and is nearly throwing up he has run so hard.

Fev......sorry, but he just doesn't try hard enough for long enough. The sad thing is if he tried as much as Wiggo, he would be one of the greatest players to have ever played and we would be comparing him to Carey.

I'm upset with Fev because I know if he did what I think he can then we would be so much closer to a flag.
I just don't think he will ever reach that potential with us.

 

[Carson_Kressley]

No, I'm proud of where we are compared to where we could be.

What I don't tolerate is seeing players, with immense ability, not pushing themselves to the limit every week.

Wiggins, Bentick, Carrazzo, Simpson........all guys with limited ability, but not for one minute this year could I fault their attack on the ball, or their endeavour to try and help us win. They give their all every week. Judd comes off the ground and is nearly throwing up he has run so hard.

Fev......sorry, but he just doesn't try hard enough for long enough. The sad thing is if he tried as much as Wiggo, he would be one of the greatest players to have ever played and we would be comparing him to Carey.

I'm upset with Fev because I know if he did what I think he can then we would be so much closer to a flag.
I just don't think he will ever reach that potential with us.

yeah i see your point i just think its inexperience that is holding us back at the moment and fevs seems to only play when he feels like playing. he could do alot better. i was talking to me dad the other day he is a west coast supporter and he reckons fevs is about to kick a big score very soon, he has it in him and for some reason he hasnt done it yet. all we can do is hang in there and watch our side develop and perhaps get alittle more hungry then what they are now.

 

[BluesNut]

Without a doubt Fevs performance tonight wasn't stellar, and TBH I don't think that he did the club (or the game any favours). I have always been a big fan of Fev whilst trying to remain objective about his performance and attitude both on an off the field.

IMHO the CFC is a very passionate club, and it's players for the majority are a dedicated and professional bunch of players with some real talent in both the younger and more seasoned players.

What we as a club, its supporters and players have to do is show the 'club' support, and even if we like players if they are not 100% CFC then the decision is fairly simple .... GO.

Having said that - whilst we had a fairly ordinary perfromace last night, players like Betts, Gibbs and Judd showed the kind of Heart that is what should be the core of CFC. Yes we made some mistakes (more than a few) but this is what this great game is about, even the most talented players can have a bad day, and this is what we had.

With respect to the performace of our forwards, can we put all the blame there - of course not - there was very limited supply and the Saints had good control in the 2nd and 3rd qaurters with a quick couple of goals and the tide turns - this is the crux of the modern game.

Fev to go, or Fev to stay is a tough call , and a fairly subjective one based on personal bias and opinion, however having said that IMHO Fev needs to make a serious decsion about what is important in the remainder of his career - play it out at the BLUES and show more commitment to the club in terms of attitude and on field performance, or leave to another club - either way I'll still be a fan of his, regardless of the club he is in.

As a CFC supporter - my heart says that we are better off without him, and we need to get someone who is more dedictated to the club, and passionate about the game as a TEAM effort. I loved Judd as a player when he was @ WCE and when he came across to the might blues I was stoked, but is he didn't come to CFC I still would have loved him as a player (ofcourse less so when he played us).

Lets show that it is our passion for the CFC which is why we support them, and whilst a spearhead like Fev is good to have on our list, we won't come away empty handed if he leaves.

Carn the Blues - a long road ahead, but it's not impossible to be in the 8.

My 2c (P.S. soz for the length.)

 

[mediumsizered]

The whole Fevola contract saga has left me feeling rather 'betwixt & between' as to what should happen to Fev. I love watching him play when he is on song (as most of us do). I love his 'in your face' attitude with the opposition players & supporters (his banter with the Richmond cheer squad was quite entertaining). I love the fact that he isn't robotic in his on-field behaviour, he actually expresses himself, which is both good & bad. Certainly he probably fires up our team better than any other player at the club, when he is 'high-fiving' or lifting Eddie off the ground when celebrating another Eddie freak goal.

On the flipside, Fev is putting the club, & all of us supporters, through unnecessary media attention due to him turning his contract negotiations into some sort of 'soap opera', thus giving the media & opposition clubs & supporters plenty of ammunition against our club. I like the fact that Greg Swann has come out & said the offer is on the table & it is up to Fev to decide if he is going to accept it or not. The club should only pay him what they think his value is & if Fev doesn't think it is enough, there may have to be a parting of the ways. It would be sad if it came to this, but the club will always be bigger than the individual.

Fev would be worth a first round draft pick (at least) & would certainly give us the opportunity to trade for a quality player from another club, while still retaining a first round draft pick in what is, from all reports, going to be a strong draft (Kevin Sheehan talked about there being as many as 55 players who would readily come under consideration to be drafted). My personal wish would be to see Fev stay at Carlton, but overall, like all Carlton supporters, I want what is best for our great club & I know Greg Swann & Steven Icke will ensure the right outcome to this saga.