- Apr 7, 2004
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The error in the caption would have occurred when the piece was being uploaded to the website and would have had nothng to do with the journalist. Someone else would have uploaded the piece, uploaded the photo and messed up the caption, thinking the picture was of Rodney Eade rather than Leon Cameron.John Ralph article on Leon Cameron.
Begins his piece with:
Did not know what to make of this line a couple of sentences later, is it a very poor attempt at a joke?
He then states that Leon Cameron spent 7 years at the Bulldogs as an assistant coach and is now in his first year at Hawthorn, yet then captions his accompanying photo with:
He isn't an assistant coach at Western Bulldogs anymore, and repeats word for word what he said about Rocket in his opening sentence.
Then he finishes with a bang, calling Liam Shiels, Luke.
Extremely lazy journalism.
Nice essay, feeling a little sensitive?I'm all for canning bad journalism. But most of the criticism offered here is the equivalent of going to a restaurant and saying you hated it because the dessert spoon was in the wrong place, while pretending to be an expert on food. Or reviewing a book, while pretending to be a literature buff, but complaining only about the footnotes. There's a pretentiousness to it, I'm afraid – people dwell on the obvious and the inconsequential because it's an easy win, because going beyond that requires greater insight than they can muster. People want to sound like they know about journalism, but don't want to go after anything substantive because it might expose the shallowness of their understanding.
If people want to criticise journalism, then criticise journalism, not just the fine print.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a-giant-pain-for-traditional-clubs/story-e6frf9ox-1226085854523MICHAEL Rischitelli's ridiculous 40m kick the wrong way at Metricon Stadium last weekend was dumb.
But there has been dumber.
At the Round 3 Bulldogs v Gold Coast match, an old couple in red, white and blue politely clapped everything the Suns did as the match predictably slipped away.
"I feel sorry for them," the Dogs fan in his 60s said to his wife.
It was a ridiculous and naive call. Dumb.
Not at all. Just offering an observation. Most of what passes for 'media criticism' around here is weak sauce.Nice essay, feeling a little sensitive?
Yes - there is some of what could be called "legitimate and in-depth criticism". But most of the critiques of journalism would be more accurately characterised as pointing out sub-editing oversights. Easy wins.There is plenty of legitimate and in depth criticism of certain journalists and their opinions on this website.
If you say so. But really, it's the easiest comeback in the world to say "shows how much you know" when someone disagrees with you.So either you lack the required research skills (like many of your brethren), are lazy (same again) or prefer to sidestep the truth so you are free to bore us with your condescending opinions (and again).
They identified the best possible "available'' coach as Ross Lyon and appointed him without one single leek getting out in a world of twitter, e-mail, texting and blogging.
For the same reason the Super Bowl gets more coverage world wide despite having a smaller crowd.When are they going to get some decent footy journos in both Sydney and Brisbane who can talk about Australia's national sport with authority.
The coverage and space given to footy in those cities is rotten.
The Lions got 22,000 to their game last night and they are no longer in the hunt for the finals.
The Broncos are gunning for the top 4 and they could only manage 22'000 to their last game.
Yet the rugby league loving Courier Mail reports league over footy 10 to 1.
I don't get it.
Re: BigFooty giving the media ideas thread
Well articulated. Sports journalism, particularly AFL, and by that i mean broadcast media too, is almost considered as the domain of the ex-player. It's the 'post-playing days superannuation supplemental plan'.
It's underpinned by this specious notion that 'only someone who's played the game can really comment on it'. And, of course, this in turn is legitimised by the celebrity status that the media affords.
Do you understand the difference between a commentator and a journalist?I have noticed this too.
My brother aspires to being a commentator. He commentates local footy, and is well respected and recieved by his peers. He even did a late-night stint a few years ago on SEN. He is dedicated and does his homework on players like few others. However, he has one massive disadvantage which will prevent him from following his dream- He never played AFL football!
He and many people he has worked with can't get a broadcsting job because they want you to be a "name" and to have played the game. It is now all about having a "brand".
He told me that, while working at SEN, his producer asked management for money to pay the producers and host of a show. SEN said that money was tight, so they couldn't give them a pay rise. However, less than two weeks later, SEN signed Kevin Bartlett, Matt Grandlan from 3AW, and a lot of the other people who are on SEN now. They did have the money, but wanted "names" to push to advertisers. Too bad if some (like KB) are as silly as a goat. Brand name means more than talent these days.
Do you understand the difference between a commentator and a journalist?
What problem is that?The same problem exists in both commentary or journalism, nimrod.
Not sure what you mean by 'legit media people'.Do you only count people with Bachelor Of Journalism degrees as legit media people.
More accurately, I criticise you for pretending to know about journalism when you don't.You criticise me for knowing nothing about journalism.
Is this meant to be persuasive?Now, you say that I know nothing about how it works with commentating either, even though my brother is involved heavily in the industry. He is virtually an intern, learning about the business, and tells me about it. So, I think I know some things about it, and the struggles he and others have found breaking into the industry, from what he told me.
I know enough to know you're on the right track in the first half of this sentence.But then, what would he or I know, only you know everything, oh great sage.
I missed the part where I asserted that. Can you point it out to me?Why don't you just come out and call my brother or myself a liar, then? That's what you asserting!
Maybe. Is that the only way you'll be able to hold your own?Maybe a red card might shut your mouth.
It appears research is not the strong suit of this reporter.History made: first successful headcount in VFL/AFL history
By Nathan Schmook
THE FIRST successful head count in VFL/AFL history took place at the weekend, with Frankston penalised for having 19 men on the ground in its clash against North Ballarat on Sunday.
Under rule 5.5 of the AFL laws of the game, Frankston had its score wiped three minutes into the third quarter when acting Roosters captain Myles Sewell asked the umpire for a head count and an extra player was discovered.
The Dolphins, who were 5.3 (38) at the time, played on unaware their score had been wiped and lost a thriller by three points before scores were adjusted post-match to hand the Rebels a 41-point win.
AFL Victoria state league manager John Hook said there had been no fallout from Frankston, which acknowledged its mistake.
He said the likely cause of the 19th man was a Frankston player starting on the ground in the second half when he was meant to be on the interchange bench.
"My understanding is there was human error and people haven't looked at the board and who's on the bench," Hook said.
"It's unfortunate, but Frankston have no issue with it because they know they were at fault.
"Thankfully North Ballarat still won the game, so it's really a matter of percentage.
"Once it's been established that they have 19 men on the ground, that's what we have to do."
Sewell said the Rebels didn't know their opponent's score had been wiped and they were thrilled to win what had been a tight match before the score adjustment.
The midfielder had been alerted by his team's bench that the Dolphins might have 19 players on the ground before requesting a head count.
Former West Coast captain Guy McKenna called the last AFL head count against St Kilda in round 22, 1999.
Before Sunday there had been three head counts called in VFL/AFL history, with all unsuccessful.
In round six, 2008, the Sydney Swans were found to have had 19 men on the ground for about one minute against North Melbourne because of a botched interchange.
The controversial drawn match prompted a new rule allowing stewards to alert the umpires if an interchange infringement has occurred.
Nathan Schmook is a reporter for AFL Media. Follow him on Twitter @AFL_Nathan