Zidane and Moomba's FFP chat.

[moomba]

And I do note you thought it was a joke when it happened and it became an issue for you only once we started getting success.

Making things up again?

My opinion on that has never changed from day 1 to today.

 

[moomba]

 

[Magma]

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[Latro]

This is the ffp thread but I have already said those employees shouldn't have logged in to the database.

It's a small issue in reality though. And I do note you thought it was a joke when it happened and it became an issue for you only once we started getting success.

Hiw is corporate espionage a small issue. It just a step in rampant pattern of cheating around FSG.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Reckon both are pretty spot on.

Was never anything more than encircling the historical elite in their little bubble and making it harder for others to break in.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

No chance

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

No chance

Agree, but the fact it's a remote possibility is nuts.

 

[hawkman]

How long is the appeal likely to take?

 

[Magma]

seeing as the cl is all about the divide between the haves and have nots and ruining the game, it is pretty noble of us removing ourselves from it.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Hahaha

 

[WealstoneRaider]

******* hell, give it a rest moomba chose not too, are your personally aware of his working hours and patterns?? if not fu** off with your "advice"

Moomba’s Mrs has entered the chat

 

[Gameova_]

Oi! Pep, how many years without Champions League?

Still the greatest

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Reckon both are pretty spot on.

Was never anything more than encircling the historical elite in their little bubble and making it harder for others to break in.

Rubbish. We managed to haul ourselves up to the “elite” without resorting to breaking FFP rules. Leicester won a title by playing by the rules. City broke all the rules in gaining their success

 

[moomba]

How long is the appeal likely to take?

You'd think they'd want it settled by May.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Rubbish. We managed to haul ourselves up to the “elite” without resorting to breaking FFP rules. Leicester won a title by playing by the rules. City broke all the rules in gaining their success

Leicester fluked it.

The path we are on you (and many others) deride Daniel Levy for. For being financially responsible, living within ourselves, bettering ourselves off field through capital works projects, growing the brand etc.

Now you use it as a badge of honour against evil Manchester City.

The fact that City have been allegedly caught only serves to make the point really. Measures put in place to stop outsiders buying their way in to an exclusive club of heavyweights who have already made it. Designed to make it as hard as possible for others to get in.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Leicester fluked it.

The path we are on you (and many others) deride Daniel Levy for. For being financially responsible, living within ourselves, bettering ourselves off field through capital works projects, growing the brand etc.

Now you use it as a badge of honour against evil Manchester City.

The fact that City have been allegedly caught only serves to make the point really. Measures put in place to stop outsiders buying their way in to an exclusive club of heavyweights who have already made it. Designed to make it as hard as possible for others to get in.

Nah, bollox to gaining success just by having the richest owner, that makes a mockery of everything. There’s got to be more to it than that. Everything a club does to grow and put itself in a stronger position counts for nothing if other clubs can just come along and be funded by oil states.

And Man Utd are floundering on and off the pitch proving the elite doesn’t necessarily remain the best season after season. You may think they want protection from the likes of City and PSG and that’s probably the case) but like is being shown, clubs like United can fail anyway and other clubs can come to the fore without cheating.

My problem with Levy is that he puts profits before success. Levy is the polar opposite to a City scenario, somewhere between lies a healthier balance

 

[Magma]

Nah, bollox to gaining success just by having the richest owner, that makes a mockery of everything. There’s got to be more to it than that. Everything a club does to grow and put itself in a stronger position counts for nothing if other clubs can just come along and be funded by oil states.

And Man Utd are floundering on and off the pitch proving the elite doesn’t necessarily remain the best season after season. You may think they want protection from the likes of City and PSG and that’s probably the case) but like is being shown, clubs like United can fail anyway and other clubs can come to the fore without cheating.

My problem with Levy is that he puts profits before success. Levy is the polar opposite to a City scenario, somewhere between lies a healthier balance

why is it different to the decades and decades of rich benefactors and politicians to previously do the same thing?

 

[WealstoneRaider]

why is it different to the decades and decades of rich benefactors and politicians to previously do the same thing?

Not a lot, except city turned it up to 11.

Money in football is out of control, and hopefully now we start to see a return to sensible investment. The £200m player transfer may not happen now, which has got to be a good thing. City and PSG were making things unsustainable for all but themselves

 

[moomba]

Not a lot, except city turned it up to 11.

Money in football is out of control, and hopefully now we start to see a return to sensible investment. The £200m player transfer may not happen now, which has got to be a good thing. City and PSG were making things unsustainable for all but themselves

Our record signing is £62m, behind United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and s couple of million more than Spurs.

 

[Magma]

Not a lot, except city turned it up to 11.

Money in football is out of control, and hopefully now we start to see a return to sensible investment. The £200m player transfer may not happen now, which has got to be a good thing. City and PSG were making things unsustainable for all but themselves

it was already unsustainable for about 95% of teams. we just dropped it to 94.9. overseas money was already massive and ever increasing. champions league money up and up. lucrative pre season tours. you're kidding if you ever think what you dream of will ever return, it's been dead for a long time.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

it was already unsustainable for about 95% of teams. we just dropped it to 94.9. overseas money was already massive and ever increasing. champions league money up and up. lucrative pre season tours. you're kidding if you ever think what you dream of will ever return, it's been dead for a long time.

I don’t agree. Look at the state of the old “sky four” that dominated in the 00’s. Arsenal have dropped right off, United are a long way from their fergie years, Liverpool spent most of the 10’s outside the top four. Only Chelsea have really kept it going throughout and that’s because they are also an oil funded club although less so these days. Now UEFA and hopefully the PL are cracking down on FFP irregularities it opens the door to more clubs breaking through. Could actually see Leicester, Wolves and Sheff Utd qualify for the CL next season.

 

[Magma]

I don’t agree. Look at the state of the old “sky four” that dominated in the 00’s. Arsenal have dropped right off, United are a long way from their fergie years, Liverpool spent most of the 10’s outside the top four. Only Chelsea have really kept it going throughout and that’s because they are also an oil funded club although less so these days. Now UEFA and hopefully the PL are cracking down on FFP irregularities it opens the door to more clubs breaking through. Could actually see Leicester, Wolves and Sheff Utd qualify for the CL next season.

there's always a club that surprises for a year or two. then money wins and the cycle resumes