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Thanks, man. I'm finishing 2016 atm, and yup, same question will be asked about the Arnolds for 2016-17-18! Also, the Rainbirds. Sportingpulse has a few gaps. After that, there are about 20 players I can't find first names for...

Stop me at any time! Thanks for tolerating my pain-in-the-arse question barrage...
All good. Happy to help anyway I can.

2016

Jordan Arnold - Goals: 0

Josh Arnold - Goals: 2

Rd 3 - 1
Rd 8 - 1

Matthew Rainbird - Goals: 0

Mitchell Rainbird - Goals: 15

Rd 5 - 1
Rd 6 - 3
Rd 10 - 2
Rd 11 - 1
Rd 12 - 2
Rd 13 - 1
Rd 14 - 1
Rd 15 - 1
2SF - 2
GF - 1

2017

Jordan Arnold - Goals: 3

Rd 2 - 1
Rd 7 - 1
Rd 14 - 1

Josh Arnold - Goals: 4

Rd 2 - 2
Rd 4 - 1
Rd 9 - 1

Matthew Rainbird - Goals: 0

Mitchell Rainbird - Goals: 12

Rd 5 - 1
Rd 8 - 1
Rd 13 - 2
Rd 15 - 2
Rd 17 - 1
Rd 18 - 2
Rd 20 - 2
Rd 21 -1

2018

Jordan Arnold - Goals: 0

Josh Arnold - Goals: 1

2SF - 1

Matthew Rainbird - Goals: 0

Mitchell Rainbird - Goals: 18

Rd 2 - 1
Rd 3 - 3
Rd 4 - 2
Rd 6 - 1
Rd 7 - 1
Rd 10 - 2
Rd 11 -1
Rd 14 - 2
Rd 16 - 1
Rd 18 - 1
Rd 19 - 2
PF - 1
 

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All finished. 2009-18 goals done and dusted, all players differentiated and accounted for, and it all adds up...

Last thing - I have a list of 40 players below who I don't have first names for. Several I think I know, but after being burnt by Hugh Williams a while back (a rare enough name, wasn't expecting 2 of them in the same team), no more guesses...I don't write it in until it's confirmed...

Clarence
M.Bond (1 goal in 2014)
S.Matheson (1 goal in 2014)
L.Sullivan (6 goals in 2014)

Devonport
R.Coombe (2 goals in 2016)
M.Dare-Bonnici (1 goal in 2015)
N.Pearce (33 goals in 2015)
B.Richmond (11 goals in 2016)
C.van Buuren (1 in 2015, 8 in 2016)
J.Watling (5 goals in 2016)

Glenorchy
J.Charman (1 goal in 2014)
N.Muir (5 goals in 2014)

Hobart
T.Cunliffe (12 goals in 2012) Troy?
S.Dickson (2 goals in 2011)
B.Free (4 goals in 2012)
N.Hardy (14 goals in 2012)
B.Midson (1 goal in 2012)

Lauderdale
N.Burk (9 goals in 2014)

Launceston
P.Bellchambers (1 goal in 2016)
J.Currie (1 goal in 2012)
L.Johnston (3 goals in 2012, 1 in 2013)
M.Lee (5 goals in 2012)

North Launceston
T.Bardenhagen (4 goals in 2011) Thane?
N.Brown (2 goals in 2013)
A.Cox-Goodyer (1 goal in 2015) – Brad C-G has 22 in 2015 on my count. Would A.C-G be a misprint and B.C-G has 23, or are there 2 C-G’s in 2015…?

South Launceston
D.Alexander (1 goal in 2010)
Z.Brown (22 goals in 2013)
R.Coombe (7 goals in 2013)

Western Storm
K.Baker (1 goal in 2014)
S.Collis (15 goals in 2014)
L.Edmunds (2 goals in 2015)
M.Hanson (15 goals in 2014)
J.Huett (4 goals in 2015)
T.Jones (4 goals in 2014)
M.MacMillan (1 goals in 2015)
T.Mansell (1 goal in 2015)
T.Page (4 goals in 2014)
C.Taylor (2 goals in 2014)
D.Thomas (13 goals in 2014)
R.Thomas (2 goals in 2014)
B.Tuthill (1 goal in 2014)
 
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Just a couple queries below where I have no record of the player kicking a goal, or a different first initial

All finished. 2009-18 goals done and dusted, all players differentiated and accounted for, and it all adds up...

Last thing - I have a list of 40 players below who I don't have first names for. Several I think I know, but after being burnt by Hugh Williams a while back (a rare enough name, wasn't expecting 2 of them in the same team), no more guesses...I don't write it in until it's confirmed...

Clarence
Mitchell Bond (1 goal in 2014)
Scott Matheson (1 goal in 2014)
Luke Sullivan (6 goals in 2014)

Devonport
Ryland Coombe (2 goals in 2016)
Manassah Dare-Bonnici (1 goal in 2015)
Nicholas Pearce (33 goals in 2015)
Ben Richmond (11 goals in 2016)
Caleb van Buuren (1 in 2015, 8 in 2016)
Jarrod Watling (5 goals in 2016)

Glenorchy
Jamie Charman (1 goal in 2014)
Nathan Muir (5 goals in 2014)

Hobart
Troy Cunliffe (12 goals in 2012) Troy? Yep
Scott Dickson (2 goals in 2011)
Ben Free (4 goals in 2012)
Nathan Hardy (14 goals in 2012)
Brendan Midson (1 goal in 2012)

Lauderdale
Nicholas Burk (9 goals in 2014)

Launceston
P.Bellchambers (1 goal in 2016) - Josh Bellchambers kicked 1 goal in 2016. Assuming this is who you meant. (Rd 4)
Jake Currie (1 goal in 2012)
Luke Johnston (3 goals in 2012, 1 in 2013)
Marcus Lee (5 goals in 2012)

North Launceston
Thane Bardenhagen (4 goals in 2011) Thane? Yep
Nathan Brown (2 goals in 2013)
Andrew Cox-Goodyer (1 goal in 2015) – Brad C-G has 22 in 2015 on my count. Would A.C-G be a misprint and B.C-G has 23, or are there 2 C-G’s in 2015…? 2 C-G's yes.

South Launceston
D.Alexander (1 goal in 2010) - This is likely Drew Alexander. However, he didn't kick a goal. No player with that surname has a goal in the TSL. Can you please provide a round number?
Zane Brown (22 goals in 2013)
Ryland Coombe (7 goals in 2013)

Western Storm
Kailem Baker (1 goal in 2014)
Shaun Collis (15 goals in 2014)
Lachlan Edmunds (2 goals in 2015)
Matt Hanson (15 goals in 2014)
Jacob Huett (4 goals in 2015)
Tim Jones (4 goals in 2014)
Max MacMillan (1 goals in 2015)
Tyran Mansell (1 goal in 2015)
Trent Page (4 goals in 2014)
Chris Taylor (2 goals in 2014)
Darryn Thomas (13 goals in 2014)
Roy Thomas (2 goals in 2014)
Beau Tuthill (1 goal in 2014)
 

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D.Alexander R04-10 v NLTON. This would have been copied from the site around that time, and since then it appears Blackberry has been substituted for them (probably the day after I copied it!). Do you concur with this moving Blackberry from 16 to 17 for the season...?

Also, P.Bellchambers was J.Bellchambers all along...I just copied it wrong...!

There was last one I missed as well - T.Netherway of Hobart who kicked 4 in 2012...this is the last one...!

Can't overstate how thankful I am for your help here. I've been into this stuff since the mid-80's, got a few notebooks here and there full of gems but missing things I wish I'd bothered to write down back then, and have always thought how cool it would be to have easily obtained stats available on Tas footy, just like the comprehensive material you get for the AFL. I don't have the luxury of walking down to the library and accessing old Tasmanian newspapers either, living up here amongst the crocs, cassowaries and cyclones, so I'm reliant on the internet, which comes with its own pitfalls in data entry accuracy and site shutdown! Logged onto the VFL site only today, trying to help someone identify a Suns 2010 jumper they were trying to sell, only to see they've deleted all previous season scores except for 2018. Same thing happened when the NTFL changed to the NWFL - all previous years vanished. Got an idea in my head to produce a couple of all-scores bookazines, similar to the Rugby League annuals you see every year, and pitching it to AFL Tas in time for their 150th in 2029 - I estimate 2-3 volumes would cover it (e.g. Pre-WW2, WW2-1980's, then Statewide onwards or something like that) and you'd have room to stick a bundle of photos in there too...

One other thing - how have you gone with collating games played? Not asking for them, just wondering. I'm baulking at attempting the task, because it's so frigging huge and potentially full of gaps and inaccuracy if I attempt it with my usual methodology. I'd be quite happy to leave it if it wasn't for the nagging fact that it's a core stat in any history of footy...
 

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T.Netherway - Tarquin

That looks like what happened with Jay. I have him down for 17, including one in Rd 4.

I have actually given up on games. I had been doing it from raw data, but that was incomplete. Even in the years I had finalised I had clubs saying it was incorrect. One club President years ago said his son had played more games than what I had listed! (Thanks for updating SP). From a request to clubs for info, I only received it from one. Very helpful guy... unfortunately his records didn't tally. For one season it averaged out at about 16 players used per game. A lot of the teamsheets aren't available so it isn't possible. Clubs can maintain their own milestones in regards to games.

For goals AFL Tas has pretty much said that what is in SP is what they will work on. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

Out of interest, can I see what you have for Devonport in Rd 3 2010?

That was the one I had a world of trouble getting. Finally got it direct from the club, so just wanted to make sure you had received the accurate info.



D.Alexander R04-10 v NLTON. This would have been copied from the site around that time, and since then it appears Blackberry has been substituted for them (probably the day after I copied it!). Do you concur with this moving Blackberry from 16 to 17 for the season...?

Also, P.Bellchambers was J.Bellchambers all along...I just copied it wrong...!

There was last one I missed as well - T.Netherway of Hobart who kicked 4 in 2012...this is the last one...!

Can't overstate how thankful I am for your help here. I've been into this stuff since the mid-80's, got a few notebooks here and there full of gems but missing things I wish I'd bothered to write down back then, and have always thought how cool it would be to have easily obtained stats available on Tas footy, just like the comprehensive material you get for the AFL. I don't have the luxury of walking down to the library and accessing old Tasmanian newspapers either, living up here amongst the crocs, cassowaries and cyclones, so I'm reliant on the internet, which comes with its own pitfalls in data entry accuracy and site shutdown! Logged onto the VFL site only today, trying to help someone identify a Suns 2010 jumper they were trying to sell, only to see they've deleted all previous season scores except for 2018. Same thing happened when the NTFL changed to the NWFL - all previous years vanished. Got an idea in my head to produce a couple of all-scores bookazines, similar to the Rugby League annuals you see every year, and pitching it to AFL Tas in time for their 150th in 2029 - I estimate 2-3 volumes would cover it (e.g. Pre-WW2, WW2-1980's, then Statewide onwards or something like that) and you'd have room to stick a bundle of photos in there too...

One other thing - how have you gone with collating games played? Not asking for them, just wondering. I'm baulking at attempting the task, because it's so frigging huge and potentially full of gaps and inaccuracy if I attempt it with my usual methodology. I'd be quite happy to leave it if it wasn't for the nagging fact that it's a core stat in any history of footy...
 

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Thanks man. Here is Round 3:

R03-10-DEV Sat (n) NHOB 2.5 5.5 14.9 18.14 (122) Saturday, April 17 (6pm)
DEV 0.2 2.6 5.7 12.7 (79) NHOB by 43
North Hobart
Goals: R.Devine 4, T.Cunliffe, Z.Gardam, J.Veitch, N.Street, K.Hall 2, T.Peterson, J.Arnold, O.Divenuto, J.Charlton
Devonport
Goals: T.Allen, P.Crowden 2, B.Symmons, C.Hardy, C.Matthews, K.Heazlewood, V.Ponsonby, R.Mott, C.Plumbridge, B.McCall
 

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I realised what an idiot I am when I saw you had replied.

When the correct goals were tracked down a couple of years ago, SP was also updated. So naturally you would have the correct ones. Oops

Thanks man. Here is Round 3:

R03-10-DEV Sat (n) NHOB 2.5 5.5 14.9 18.14 (122) Saturday, April 17 (6pm)
DEV 0.2 2.6 5.7 12.7 (79) NHOB by 43
North Hobart
Goals: R.Devine 4, T.Cunliffe, Z.Gardam, J.Veitch, N.Street, K.Hall 2, T.Peterson, J.Arnold, O.Divenuto, J.Charlton
Devonport
Goals: T.Allen, P.Crowden 2, B.Symmons, C.Hardy, C.Matthews, K.Heazlewood, V.Ponsonby, R.Mott, C.Plumbridge, B.McCall
 

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Ok, here's another one:

I have Clarence as having played 8 home games in 2012, and Glenorchy 10 (all teams played 9). According to both Wiki and SP, Clarence played Glenorchy at KGV in R01 and R15, and at Bellerive game in R10. Interestingly, Clarence is the first named team in R01.

Options:
1) SP and Kingpin (!) have it wrong, and one of the two KGV games was actually played at Bellerive, or
2) Clarence played a rostered home match at KGV in R01.

Any light to shed, guys...?
 
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