First time ever a team has the two best players in the league?

[NewMelbournian]

In Heeney and Grundy the Swans have arguably the two most dominant players in the comp, has that ever happened before? and how can anyone compete? It is like Man U with Rooney and Ronaldo or the lakers with Shaq and Kobe

 

[OniAu]

The Bont says dont think so

 

[PhatBoy]

it’s very rare that ‘two best’ is clear cut

We had Bartel deservedly win a Brownlow in 2007 while Ablett was also rightly regarded as the best player in the comp; but you could easily mount a case that Judd was right there as well

 

[Teen Wolf]

Kobe and Shaq were never top 2 players at the same time, which is different to Heeney and Grundy who have never been top 2 players at any time. Imo.

Putting that aside, Bill Hutchinson won back-to-back Brownlows and John Coleman won back-to-back Hisownmedal in the same two-year stretch. Probably pretty hard to top.

 

[Foreign Legion]

Grundy currently 501/1 for the Brownlow at Sportsbet.

I reckon he has at least 10-12 votes. But I guess Cripps probably has 24 or 25 by now.

Worth a lazy $5 I reckon.

 

[Schauermann]

We had Nat Fyfe and Keplar Bradley in one team...

 

[Stumpy Pete]

Pretty sure Hawthorn in the 80’s, Brisbane in the early 2000’s, Essendon in 2000 and West Coast mid-2000’s would have had the best 2 players in the league at some point.

Black, Voss, Lappin, Aker
Platten, Brereton, Dunstall
Kerr, Cousins,Judd
Hird, Lloyd, Long, Fletcher

Regards

S. Pete

 

[raskolnikov]

Pretty sure Hawthorn in the 80’s, Brisbane in the early 2000’s, Essendon in 2000 and West Coast mid-2000’s would have had the best 2 players in the league at some point.

Black, Voss, Lappin, Aker
Platten, Brereton, Dunstall
Kerr, Cousins,Judd
Hird, Lloyd, Long, Fletcher

Regards

S. Pete

Long no. Great player but nowhere near the best. The 2000 team was more a superstar team than a team of superstars.

 

[the harry]

Pretty sure Hawthorn in the 80’s, Brisbane in the early 2000’s, Essendon in 2000 and West Coast mid-2000’s would have had the best 2 players in the league at some point.

Black, Voss, Lappin, Aker
Platten, Brereton, Dunstall
Kerr, Cousins,Judd
Hird, Lloyd, Long, Fletcher

Regards

S. Pete

Kerr was 2 votes away from being a 2x Brownlow medallist. Runner up to Cousins iirc

 

[Orange crush]

Shohei and ****ing Ohtani, man

 

[Cmarsh]

Grundy had a great game but he wasn't playing against a top ruck and now someone draws a conclusion he's in the top 2 players in the game? Really?

 

[joe444]

In Heeney and Grundy the Swans have arguably the two most dominant players in the comp, has that ever happened before? and how can anyone compete? It is like Man U with Rooney and Ronaldo or the lakers with Shaq and Kobe

Not sure if serious.

Shohei and ****ing Ohtani, man

And together that's three.

 

[T2B_]

Grundy had a great game but he wasn't playing against a top ruck and now someone draws a conclusion he's in the top 2 players in the game? Really?

That's BigFooty for you

 

[Cyclops]

Not the two best.

Two very honest very skilled at the ball footy players though.

We smacked Heeny about and he came up smiling. Hes either Aker tier annoying or a genuinely nice bloke...prolly the latter.

No point punching Grundy, he smiles and says something about mung beans and gut health. Hes an ornament to the game.

Only time I have seen Grundy rattled was when Mumford was allowed to poke his eyes and repeatedly punch him in the face at ruck duels in that final.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Shohei and ****ing Ohtani, man

Please don't remind of the ongoing nightmare my beloved Angels constantly force me to live through.

The Trout-Ohtani era is one of sport's great oddities. The Tungsten Arm era, if you will.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I genuinely have Blakey in the top couple in the comp at the moment.

In terms of importance anyway.

 

[Orange crush]

I genuinely have Blakey in the top couple in the comp at the moment.

In terms of importance anyway.

So Grundy, I zucchini and the Lizard … top 3, wow

 

[Orange crush]

Please don't remind of the ongoing nightmare my beloved Angels constantly force me to live through.

The Trout-Ohtani era is one of sport's great oddities. The Tungsten Arm era, if you will.

I was gutted when he left the Hamsters to go to mlb, but glad he did. You got to enjoy him for long enough

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

2021: Oliver and Petracca
2007/09: GAJ + second best Cats player
2005: Judd and Cousins

 

[THRILLHO]

1996 - Carey and Mckernan.

Mckernan won the Brownlow, the AFL MVP, All Australian ruck, and Carey was Wayne Carey.

 

[Lunchtime]

Long no. Great player but nowhere near the best. The 2000 team was more a superstar team than a team of superstars.

MIchael Long was never ever been regarded as one of the best players in the League during his career. He was just a good player.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

MIchael Long was never ever been regarded as one of the best players in the League during his career. He was just a good player.

Most overrated ever.

Not that he wasn't handy, but he was never better than handy.

Not sure why the folklore about him arose over time? Presumably the 93 GF - but even then, how Kernahan didn't win the norm Smith for kicking 7 in a losing GF always astounded me.

From all reports a very good man that has done great things post football - but incredibly over rated as a footballer.

 

[SC_Power]

Cousins / Judd immediately comes to mind

Next year it could be Bontempelli, Darcy and Butters trifecta

 

[Mr Meow]

So Grundy, I zucchini and the Lizard … top 3, wow

Warner.

JMac might be the best of the lot this year. And Rosas had the highest rated game of a small forward in 86 years the other week.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Cousins / Judd immediately comes to mind

I reckon Cox was likely further ahead of the 2nd best ruck more than Cousins was the 3rd best mid* at the time.

*Possibly Kerr lol