First time ever a team has the two best players in the league?

[bzparkes]

Cousins & Kerr in '05.

Cousins won the Brownlow and Kerr was runner up.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I’ve never heard anybody claim he was an all time great etc, but he was a superstar cut down by injury. It was only for a short time because of the injuries, but he was one of the best players in the comp for that short period. Injuries cost him the chance to be rated any higher which is fair enough. But…

Never better than handy… Only ever ‘good’

What ignorant garbage.

What an extraordinarily strange response to someone's opinion.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

1996 - Carey and Mckernan.

Mckernan won the Brownlow, the AFL MVP, All Australian ruck, and Carey was Wayne Carey.

He did?

 

[Generalissimo]

Should've. IIRC he copped a dubious suspension that ruled him out

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What an extraordinarily strange response to someone's opinion.

What an extraordinary stupid opinion

A player who dominated an AFL finals series… won the Norm Smith… missed the next year with injury… then immediately came back and made the All Australian team while finishing Top 5 in the Brownlow

… was “never more than handy”.

 

[Cyclops]

Pies had two Coventrys and two Colliers in the Machine, thats close to the best four in the league at that time.

1963 Polly Farmer and Doug Wade maybe? Polly for sure, Wade kicked a ton.

In the Rort era Carlton and Hawthorn had reserves sides better than many senior lists. However they competed with Plugger and Ablett snr, so could not have had the top two players.

What an extraordinary stupid opinion

A player who dominated an AFL finals series… won the Norm Smith… missed the next year with injury… then immediately came back and made the All Australian team while finishing Top 5 in the Brownlow

… was “never more than handy”.

Pendles/Dal Santo tier for vision and evasion: i dont think he was that quick but he seemed to be.

Very skilled and effective, whether Essendon were top of the ladder or also rans.

One blot, belting a Dee in 2000 gf. I think he tried to fly the flag and it went wrong. Im told he was a decent boxer so if he had a mean streak blokes would have been flattened. It wasn't part of his game. Maybe Sheedy demanded he make a statement or something? Uncharacteristic incident in a stellar career.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Pies had two Coventrys and two Colliers in the Machine, thats close to the best four in the league at that time.

1963 Polly Farmer and Doug Wade maybe? Polly for sure, Wade kicked a ton.

In the Rort era Carlton and Hawthorn had reserves sides better than many senior lists. However they competed with Plugger and Ablett snr, so could not have had the top two players.


Pendles/Dal Santo tier for vision and evasion: i dont think he was that quick but he seemed to be.

Very skilled and effective, whether Essendon were top of the ladder or also rans.

One blot, belting a Dee in 2000 gf. I think he tried to fly the flag and it went wrong. Im told he was a decent boxer so if he had a mean streak blokes would have been flattened. It wasn't part of his game. Maybe Sheedy demanded he make a statement or something? Uncharacteristic incident in a stellar career.

Meh, grand final, players fly in at 200% and do stupid things.

 

[Quinten Kennedy]

Judd and Cousins went alright.

 

[My Tilly]

Ablett Sr & Couch in 1989 were decent.

Still can't get over how stacked Geelong of 2007 were. Ablett was the best mid in the game and Scarlett the best defender.


Today, not sure you can make a case for any team having the two best players. Certainly would not pick Grundy ahead of Jackson or Gawn.
Maybe Andrews & Ashcroft (on a good day)?

 

[WhyAmIHere]

In Heeney and Grundy the Swans have arguably the two most dominant players in the comp, has that ever happened before? and how can anyone compete? It is like Man U with Rooney and Ronaldo or the lakers with Shaq and Kobe

I don’t even know if they are the best pairing at Sydney? The 1995 swans had Lockett and Kelly.

 

[UltraEgo]

Grundy had a great game but he wasn't playing against a top ruck and now someone draws a conclusion he's in the top 2 players in the game? Really?

he was playing against an 8 gamer who then went down with injury and then went against a midfielder and forward in the ruck lol

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I’d say it’s pretty hard to argue that Essendon had the top two players in 1952-53.

Bill Hutchison won back to back Brownlows.

John Coleman won the league goalkicking in both years with a total of 200 goals (in 36 games).

 

[DangerSloane]

Neither of them are in the 2 best players in the league.

That belongs to Bont and Daicos.

They could be the two most relaxed superstars in the comp, however.

/end thread

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

Hird and Wanganeen in 1993

 

[ZEV]

1996 - Carey and Mckernan.

Mckernan won the Brownlow, the AFL MVP, All Australian ruck, and Carey was Wayne Carey.

was very stiff not to win the norm smith as well.

 

[Roobs321]

Coaches in 2011 recognised Marc Murphy & Chris Judd as the two best.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Richmond did it in 2017.

They had a guy called Dustin Martin who was the best mid in the league.

Then they also had the best forward in the league, funnily enough, also named Dustin Martin.

 

[nineteen eighty]

First time ever? I'll take Matthews and Hudson.

Hudson and Lethal came to mind as I initially thought of Kevin Bartlett and Royce Hart.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Should've. IIRC he copped a dubious suspension that ruled him out

Dubious my @rse!!! It was totally frickin ludicrous.

 

[Del233519]

Hird and Wanganeen in 1993

James Hird wasnt in the top 50 players in the comp in 1993.

Wanganeen would have been lucky to be in the top 20. Had a great year though.

 

[MadMaxx]

James Hird wasnt in the top 50 players in the comp in 1993.

Wanganeen would have been lucky to be in the top 20. Had a great year though.

Agree here. Hird BECAME one of the best, but in 1993 he was a 19 year old skinner. Wanganeen the same

For Context, Dunstall (123) Ablett (124) lost the Coleman to Modra (129). THREE Centurions that year (Plugger was Injured, and only averaged 5.4 goals a game for his 10 matches)..

Wayne Carey and Greg Williams were kicking around breaking hearts each week. Craig Bradley too.

Adelaide had McGuiness and McDermott ripping it up

I don't think either Hird or Wanganeen would have really been in the top 10, regardless of a close Brownlow win

 

[Wolfgang West]

Bontempelli and Butters

Don't think so. He could be very well be on a walking frame by the end of this year after carrying that club like he does.