Fitzroy circa 1996 versus this current day Carlton team

Who would win between Fitzroy 1996 v Carlton of today

  • Fitzroy

    Votes: 59 55.1%
  • Carlton

    Votes: 48 44.9%

  • Total voters
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I dunno, the Fitzroy boys are getting a bit old now.

would be a s**t and giggle... but wouldn't mind a "replay" match of sorts if you got the blokes who competed in the Grand Final say 10 years ago to go at it again in a semi intensive/light hearted affair a la Legends game... say you play it at Etihad on Friday Night before the actual GF

this year it would be Hawthorn v Geelong from 2008
 

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lol Carlton would beat them by 200 points.

A better comparison would be Carlton 2018 vs Melbourne 2013. IMO that Melbourne team was the worst team since Fitzroy, and still it.
 

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Those saying Fitzroy would win are either having a laugh/troll or just don't (or too young to) remember how terrible poor old Fitzroy were.

Fitzroy won 1 game for the year, early in the season against a travelling Fremantle who were only formed the year before, had a number of injuries and would go on to be bottom 4 for their first 5 seasons - with really bad away form (8 seasons if you count the year they got up to 12th/16).

Fitzroy's percentage was just 49! that year - meaning teams more than doubled their score over the course of the season. It was thought they may have had a chance for a last win with the emotion of it all in the last few weeks of a proud club with a long history, playing teams all outside finals in St.Kilda, Richmond and Fremantle again.

On a miserable day, an average St. Kilda made them look listless and silly, winning 88-35. The worst was yet to come though, with Richmond belting them 187 to 36! Their last game ever they were given the most hope though, against Fremantle (the only team they'd beaten) who were sitting in 14th and had little to play for.

Fremantle went on to belt them by 86 points in what I think was easily their biggest win to date.

Carlton, whilst poor, are still every chance to win another game but even if they don't, their percentage is up around 60 and they are still a fair bit more competitive. For those mentioning that Fitzroy had some decent players (Barker, Paxman, Molloy, etc.) most of those were kids at the time and went on to be handy. Carlton's top end - Cripps, Docherty, Murphy, Kreuzer, Curnow, Simpson, etc. surely surpass those on the Fitzroy list.
 

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Those saying Fitzroy would win are either having a laugh/troll or just don't (or too young to) remember how terrible poor old Fitzroy were.

Fitzroy won 1 game for the year, early in the season against a travelling Fremantle who were only formed the year before, had a number of injuriesdid and would go on to be bottom 4 for their first 5 seasons - with really bad away form (8 seasons if you count the year they got up to 12th/16).

Fitzroy's percentage was just 49! that year - meaning teams more than doubled their score over the course of the season. It was thought they may have had a chance for a last win with the emotion of it all in the last few weeks of a proud club with a long history, playing teams all outside finals in St.Kilda, Richmond and Fremantle again.

On a miserable day, an average St. Kilda made them look listless and silly, winning 88-35. The worst was yet to come though, with Richmond belting them 187 to 36! Their last game ever they were given the most hope though, against Fremantle (the only team they'd beaten) who were sitting in 14th and had little to play for.

Fremantle went on to belt them by 86 points in what I think was easily their biggest win to date.

Carlton, whilst poor, are still every chance to win another game but even if they don't, their percentage is up around 60 and they are still a fair bit more competitive. For those mentioning that Fitzroy had some decent players (Barker, Paxman, Molloy, etc.) most of those were kids at the time and went on to be handy. Carlton's top end - Cripps, Docherty, Murphy, Kreuzer, Curnow, Simpson, etc. surely surpass those on the Fitzroy list.
At what point did you ignore the part where in today’s football with numbers behind the ball, 1 on 1 virtually non existent which make real blowouts a rarity these days?
If Carlton of today played 1996 football there’s every chance they’d get beaten by 200 points!
Conversely, if Fitzroy played in today’s era they’d probably have won 2-3 or even 4 games with the low scoring s**t fest most games are
 
Carlton 2018 is a better team than Melbourne 2013.

To be honest I always find squiggle a good method of comparison for these kind of discussions Final Siren

Eyeballing the charts Fitzroy 96 and Carlton 18 look around the same level - but has Hanny states - Melbourne 2013 appear to be worse than both!
 

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Carlton would annihilate Subiaco. Any struggling AFL side would still beat the best WAFL side in a canter.
take the blues 22 who played last weekend and play them against the WAFL or SANFL rep teams, and i think you have a very competitive game there
 

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Fitzroy had a percentage of 49, averaging a score of 66 and conceding an average of 133. Carlton are dreadful, but they're not in that league.

Judging by percentage, the worst teams are

GWS 2012: 46.2 (2-20)
Fitzroy 1996: 49.5 (1-21)
GWS 2013: 51.0 (1-21)
Melbourne 2013: 54.1 (2-20)
Gold Coast 2011: 56.3 (3-19)
Fitzroy 1995: 58.2 (2-20)
Carlton 2018: 59.6 (1-16)
 

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Played five finals for Hawthorn in 2000-2001 including a preliminary final in 2001 (the same year he was Hawthorn's leading goalkicker).

Injury saw Barker play only 46 games between 2002-2006 out of his 168 total games (beginning in 1994)

The current Carlton would be a much better team with a John barker in 2000-2001 form.

At least he could kick the damn thing between the sticks
 

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Strange reality but even with two of the crappiest teams ever, there has to be a 'winner'

I think it was c 2002 Blues v Hawks game and PP was so bad, fans in the crowd from both sides joined in perfecting the best derisory description of the game.
There had to be a winner, I think the hawks were slightly less crap
 

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To be honest I always find squiggle a good method of comparison for these kind of discussions Final Siren

Eyeballing the charts Fitzroy 96 and Carlton 18 look around the same level - but has Hanny states - Melbourne 2013 appear to be worse than both!
Melbourne 2013 is such an underrated bad team. It's because GWS played a bunch of skinny teenagers the same year and only won 1 game, which made Melbourne's two wins look pretty good. But they were both unbelievably bad.

Melbourne 2013 had games against fledgling GWS and Gold Coast and STILL had a worse percentage than Carlton today. Their only win against a non-expansion club was a 3-point one over the Bulldogs (who finished 15th).
 
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