Five years on ...

[The King!]

You would obviously still follow Essendon if they were the Nagasaki bombers.

You aren't cut out to be North material.

Our small number isn't our weakness, it's our strength.

Trying to cut membership then?

 

[MaddAdam]

Why do the roos have poor commercial deals? Who agreed to them ? Forced?

Because we get crappy timeslots due to the rigged draw.

Maybe we should innovate and discover a new timeslot nobody plays in a make it our own?

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

Because we get crappy timeslots due to the rigged draw.

Maybe we should innovate and discover a new timeslot nobody plays in a make it our own?

LOL

 

[MaddAdam]

They've done better than I thought, but they still should have moved.

It would be a far better situation than sharing Tassie, and they're always going to struggle as Essendon's little brother while they're in Melbourne.

Didn't seem to struggle the last time we played.

Or over the last ten years.

Or even over in the modern era where the the premiership score is 2 all.

We're not your little brother.

You're our fat lazy twin that sits in his room playing Xbox all day and waiting for Mum to bring dinner.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

I've learned over the last five years that North Melbourne supporters are still the same bunch of chronic whingers and bitchers who blame everybody but themselves for their lack of supporter base.

Oh and most of them have a mild bug up their ass about the non-Victorian clubs existing and pine for the 'old' days.

 

[The King!]

Because we get crappy timeslots due to the rigged draw.

Maybe we should innovate and discover a new timeslot nobody plays in a make it our own?

Yeah but friday night is better when its a side thats performing, you should get some more 2013 surely, i meant more stadium deals and so on

 

[boncer34]

Indeed. The AFL cash represents about 1/25th of our turnover.

It doesn't keep us afloat.

You're wrong. On this on everything else. Scurry along now

You have figures to back that statement up?

 

[Black Diamond]

Yeah but friday night is better when its a side thats performing, you should get some more 2013 surely, i meant more stadium deals and so on

Interesting. Melbourne and Richmond both had multiple Friday night games in 2011 despite us beating them comfortably and finishing above them on the ladder in 2010. It was the same story with Richmond in 2012. Friday night games aren't linked to quality of performance.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

Because we get crappy timeslots due to the rigged draw.

Maybe we should innovate and discover a new timeslot nobody plays in a make it our own?

You played Fridays because Melbourne and Richmond were already playing Saturdays at the same ground.

Didn't have shit to do with pioneering or whatever the retro-fitted version of history is at Arden St.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

I've learned over the last five years that North Melbourne supporters are still the same bunch of chronic whingers and bitchers who blame everybody but themselves for their lack of supporter base.

You need to understand that this isn't a major problem for us.

We don't need the most supporters, we just need enough supporters.

We aren't a gimmick club like Essendon and Collingwood who get flaky supporters for no other reason than they are the biggest club. You need to have character to be a North supporter. No front runners allowed.

Oh and most of them have a mild bug up their arse about the non-Victorian clubs existing.

We'll take their money. After all, we helped to invent them.

 

[MaddAdam]

Oh and most of them have a mild bug up their arse about the non-Victorian clubs existing and pine for the 'old' days.

Not so, I love how things are going right now. Ideal times.

 

[The King!]

Interesting. Melbourne and Richmond both had multiple Friday night games in 2011 despite us beating them comfortably and finishing above them on the ladder in 2010. It was the same story with Richmond in 2012. Friday night games aren't linked to quality of performance.

Fair point, not sure why melbourne are there, richmond draw a crowd and hve a large fan base though

 

[bombermick]

You would obviously still follow Essendon if they were the Nagasaki bombers.

You aren't cut out to be North material.

Our small number isn't our weakness, it's our strength.

Is that last sentence your bumper sticker? Spare me.

I hope it works out for North, but they're going to find it much harder than other smaller clubs. The Bulldogs have the western suburbs; the Saints now have New Zealand.

We were asked to give our views, but neither you, nor any other North fan, will hear it.

 

[Black Diamond]

Fair point, not sure why melbourne are there, richmond draw a crowd and hve a large fan base though

And the draw is based on those fanbases. There is no rule or principle when the fixture is created linked to performance quality. In effect, there is no reward for doing well.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

People seem to overstate the Bulldogs 'having' the western suburbs (seemingly because Western is in their name). They still play their games at the same stadiums as the other 9 Melbourne clubs.

 

[MaddAdam]

Yeah but friday night is better when its a side thats performing, you should get some more 2013 surely, i meant more stadium deals and so on

It depends. You'd think the run n gun attacking footy would make for great viewing. But the AFL may just decide it goes for the safety option and schedule "big teams" playing crap footy instead knowing a guaranteed portion of deadbeats will tune in no matter what.

 

[bombermick]

Didn't seem to struggle the last time we played.

Or over the last ten years.

Or even over in the modern era where the the premiership score is 2 all.

We're not your little brother.

You're our fat lazy twin that sits in his room playing Xbox all day and waiting for Mum to bring dinner.

I'm not talking on-field, but even there it's very even in what's one of our worst decades. We're the taller, richer brother that allows you to pay your bills.

 

[The King!]

And the draw is based on those fanbases. There is no rule or principle when the fixture is created linked to performance quality. In effect, there is no reward for doing well.

Pretty much, but if your side is good it shouldnt matter that much when you play.

 

[The King!]

It depends. You'd think the run n gun attacking footy would make for great viewing. But the AFL may just decide it goes for the safety option and schedule "big teams" playing crap footy instead knowing a guaranteed portion of deadbeats will tune in no matter what.

Its a personal opinion as to wether north are good to watch, regardless though they should get more than the token friday night game if the club requests it

 

[MaddAdam]

You played Fridays because Melbourne and Richmond were already playing Saturdays at the same ground.

Didn't have shit to do with pioneering or whatever the retro-fitted version of history is at Arden St.

And when Essendon moved to the G in 1991, they specifically wrote no Friday nights into the contract because "it will never work".

We made it.

 

[Black Diamond]

Pretty much, but if your side is good it shouldnt matter that much when you play.

What do you mean it shouldn't matter? Three of our best wins were against Geelong, Adelaide and St Kilda - all in the twilight slot on Sunday. These are games our fans didn't get to see unless they had Foxtel, and we were sublime. It matters when it comes to growing our club.

 

[jacko57]

You played Fridays because Melbourne and Richmond were already playing Saturdays at the same ground.

Didn't have shit to do with pioneering or whatever the retro-fitted version of history is at Arden St.

North playing Friday games certainly made it easier to share with Melbourne and Richmond, back when Essendon and Collingwood were still happy to play at their suburban grounds. We did move to the G before we started playing Fridays, so you're wrong to suggest we only played Fridays because it was the only way we get get a share of the G. (One might argue that the Pies and Bombers decided to become MCG co-tenants after North had paved the way for them).

Only a fool would deny that North tried on the Friday night timeslot when no other club wanted a bar of it, and proved that the format was a winner. If that isn't 'pioneering' or 'innovation', what would you accept does merit such a description?

 

[MaddAdam]

Is that last sentence your bumper sticker? Spare me.

I hope it works out for North, but they're going to find it much harder than other smaller clubs. The Bulldogs have the western suburbs; the Saints now have New Zealand.

We were asked to give our views, but neither you, nor any other North fan, will hear it.

This is an interesting point. The Dogs currently have the lowest membership of any Melbourne team. Their membership is also falling. This despite the western suburbs of Melbourne being the fastest growing region in Australia for the last ten years.

The AFL has already started taking parts of the west previously allocated to the Dogs for development off them and giving the schools and juniour clubs to North and Essendon.

The Saints are welcome to NZ. If we can make the relationship with footy mad souhern Tassie work, it will be worth a million NZs.

 

[The King!]

What do you mean it shouldn't matter? Three of our best wins were against Geelong, Adelaide and St Kilda - all in the twilight slot on Sunday. These are games our fans didn't get to see unless they had Foxtel, and we were sublime. It matters when it comes to growing our club.

So if you were on commercial tv every week, or say 15-16 times a week you would have a larger fan base and more money? (genuine question not meaning it to sound snarky)

 

[The King!]

North playing Friday games certainly made it easier to share with Melbourne and Richmond, back when Essendon and Collingwood were still happy to play at their suburban grounds. (One might argue that they later decided to become MCG co-tenants after North had paved the way for them).

Only a fool would deny that North tried on the Friday night timeslot when no other club wanted a bar of it, and proved that the format was a winner. If that isn't 'pioneering' or 'innovation', what would you accept does merit such a description?

When you played just about every friday night did the club have a strong membership base and record large profits?, why did all the fans desert as the friday night games fell away?