List Mgmt. Fix our defence

[St 07]

Croft is as skinny as a stick of macaroni. He's been playing forward in the VFL and is not strong enough to hold his marks yet. He shows glimpses but is way off the pace until he builds up his body.

Why couldn't he be an intercept defender

 

[Sharkey66]

Buss is contracted don’t think we will trade him even if he wanted to leave

There is no point in keeping him if we are not going to play him.

 

[Bulldogs85]

There is no point in keeping him if we are not going to play him.

There is no need to trade him either if we can’t find a replacement

 

[Frewy]

New plan.

We all take rotations of force-feeding JOD nothing but radio call-back hams whilst locked inside the Whitten Oval gym over the off-season, with the hope he comes back looking like mullet era Fraser Gehrig.

 

[JTCWBFC]

If it hasn’t worked in years and he hasn’t changed it, the hope of Bevo making bulk changes are slim to none. If anything he’ll double down and stay playing 5 on 6 in defence

 

[Dog 36]

Play Buss.
Yes it may not fix it but we will never know unless we do and see how it goes

 

[GetDimmaBack]

One of the other possible flow-on benefits of a shallower press might be a less crowded forward line. Has anyone noticed how week after week our forward line is much more clogged than our opponents when there's a rebound?

This was the source of my frustration at the game.

We take it forward, kick high to Darcy and/or Naughts, who fly unsuccessfully against multi defenders. Then it goes to the other end where it hits a forward on his own, or one on one.

Seemed like our players have been instructed to bomb it in, expecting Darcy to mark everything. Doesn't work when 3 defenders jump against him.

Spent most of the game pulling my hair out

 

[_Mike_]

Bevo’s game plan is risk 4 reward which has been during his tenure.

Play a high risk style pushing forward with numbers to score as opposed to playing accountable man on man footy. With the stats on how many defensive 1v1 stats Oliver posted it iterates that style.

IMO I doubt that will change while he’s coaching, that’s his system and it’s not a surprise

 

[geoffjennings79]

Lobb is a second tall playing the first defender role and JOD at this stage is a third defender playing as a second.

The loss of Jones has forced everyone to shuffle upwards and we are not able to cope.

Yes Lobb better suited to CHB where he can fly for marks and intercept he's not a fullback.

And no genuine Jones replacement. Keath was able to play 1v1 (surprising as he'd been an interceptor at the Crows), but now we need to find another genuine FB again.

 

[Ryannope]

We have an intercept-driven defence. It works well when the midfield is on top, but doesn't hold up under pressure.

The midfield will never be on top consistently because we have Tim English in the ruck, and he always struggles in physical matchups.

Tim English will always be the #1 ruck because Beveridge is the coach, and is stuck in the intransigent mindset that English is the perfect modern-day ruckman.

Beveridge will always be the coach because the boy's club on the board will always back him.

We've been in the Groundhog Day loop for several years now. Strap yourselves in, it's going to be a predictable ride.

 

[Doggy]

We have an intercept-driven defence. It works well when the midfield is on top, but doesn't hold up under pressure.

The midfield will never be on top consistently because we have Tim English in the ruck, and he always struggles in physical matchups.

Tim English will always be the #1 ruck because Beveridge is the coach, and is stuck in the intransigent mindset that English is the perfect modern-day ruckman.

Beveridge will always be the coach because the boy's club on the board will always back him.

We've been in the Groundhog Day loop for several years now. Strap yourselves in, it's going to be a predictable ride.

Don't you have anything better to do than to create new accounts

 

[DognBones]

Why couldn't he be an intercept defender

I think you are clutching at straws. Croft is not ready for AFL level whatever position you suggest. Further down the track of his development, we will no more of where he fits in.

 

[Ryannope]

Don't you have anything better to do than to create new accounts

The heck are you talking about mate?

 

[Doggy]

The heck are you talking about mate?

You just so happen to create an account after a loss and start going to town .. and expect us to believe you aren't the same guy who creates a gazillion accounts to do exactly that.

 

[Ryannope]

You just so happen to create an account after a loss and start going to town .. and expect us to believe you aren't the same guy who creates a gazillion accounts to do exactly that.

To do exactly what?

 

[doggy_dog]

Not the biggest name but I’d throw a contract at James Borlase from the Crows. Could be the genuine KPD we lack

 

[Frewy]

No I would rather a younger one

If you want a couple of extra years on the clock Jayden Laverde (Bombers), Jeremy Finlayson (Port Adelaide) and Chris Burgess (Crows) are also out of contract. Better than Sam Frost though probably not, Laverde would probably be my pick of those three.

Silvagni is an out of contract smokey, but I can't imagine the Blues giving him up even if they need capital. I won't mention any contracted players, that is for Sam Power and co to wheel and deal and you could name two dozen.

 

[Munnez]

Problem with our defence is our midfield not defending

Slowing down and marking player makes it ten times easier for our Defenders

Needed more players that can stick a tackle. It allowed them to get free and clear to use good foot skills. Dolan and Hynes will make players just not physically strong enough at this stage

 

[Senor Ed]

We turn the ball over way too much. I don't remember seeing adelaide miss a target by foot. You can't expect our defenders to stop the onslaught of ball coming in from blatant turnovers. I get we like to go fast and score heavily.

I don't think we are putting enough onus on holding onto the footy. We don't need to score 130pts every match. Id rather scor 80-100 and restrict the turnovers.

 

[Senor Ed]

There's a pattern v top 8 sides when we lose. We concede way too many points from turnover:

GEEL V DOGS



GC V DOGS



BRISBNE V DOGS

 

[Doggiesfan14]

I understand the theories that our midfield ‘doesn’t defend’, but are we placing way too much burden on them? I’d be interested to see defensive stats on other midfields in the comp. With the speed the game is played, it seems like it’s inevitable that we will concede forward entries - but we’re not at all setting up to deal with these entries.

It feels like every team is the comp gets 1v1 contests out the back against us and when we go forward, it’s 10v10 down there

 

[Chalky White]

I’d be asking about Leek Aleer. Plays as the 3rd in GWS defence. He would clearly be our best defender. Not sure of his cost but get it done

 

[BEaston]

The balance between attack and defence seems out of whack.

Our mids often run aggressively when we have the ball, but then a skill error or error in judgement causes a turnover and we're left with our pants down. They run much harder with possession than without, not sure if this is by design or player choice.

It's also hard to tell how many goals we get from this aggressive play vs how many we allow the oppo.

 

[Guido]

I’d be asking about Leek Aleer. Plays as the 3rd in GWS defence. He would clearly be our best defender. Not sure of his cost but get it done

FoxFooty article from earlier in the year said Saints are offering him $5.4m over 6 years.

If he keeps developing and gets to be amongst, say, the top 10 key defenders in the comp, probably worth it, but for where he stands now, it's a very high risk play at that level of coin.

 

[Dazb86]

We play a very attacking brand to protect our defence IMO. It's genuinely bottom 4 levels in terms of defending entries.

Not sure whats happened re: Busslinger but it seems like the match comittee don't trust him at all.

Absolutely shits me that Croft is not being developed as a backman. This seems like gross incompetence from the coaching staff. We're flush for key forwards it makes zero sense that they develop him there in the VFL.