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So just to be clear... this means there will ALWAYS be a Melbourne based team in the grand final.
With an advantage over whoever they are playing.
But no more than one
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So just to be clear... this means there will ALWAYS be a Melbourne based team in the grand final.
With an advantage over whoever they are playing.
couldn't be bothered reading this crap thread. OP is full of sh!t—even home and awy fixture
—correct seedings in finals
—teams wanting home finals get them
So
2 conferences. One is the 9 teams sharing MCG or Docklands, the other is the teams with home grounds not in melbourne (yes including Geelong)
Home and away season - teams play other eight teams in their conference twice, and the teams in other conference once makes 25 games
Alternate home and away between the conferences. The final order in each conference
Finals - top three in each conference go into their own pool finals. The grand final (at the MCG sorry) is between the winners of each conference finals series. To avoid the situation we had with aflw conferences, two further places in each finals series are filled by the next best four teams
So theres five in each finals series, which is played off as the old final five, one of the best finals series versions ever
In the finals:
The Melbourne pool plays all the finals at the MCG, a neutral ground for melbourne teams. It want a problem to anyone for decades.
For the Australa pool. The higher team plays the final at their home ground whather it be kardinis, gold coast, homebush, brisbane, SCG adelaide oval or perth stadium. Each pool is completely fair and let there be no arguments, they get what they have been asking for
Disadvantages:
Theres plenty, but arent people saying fairness should be the over riding imperative?
By the way, l dont like the conference idea
no worries, a conference system / wild card finals is OZ media generated wank.Mate, im not saying it should happen. Im saying if geelong want to be treat like an IS club just be in a conference with them
Does every player in the EPL play every game?
Carlton were never playing finals. Did crowds and players give up?
EPL doesnt even have finals so there is generally zero chance of the winner not being in the top 5 or 6 with 5 or 6 weeks to go.
Also, St Kilda. 60 years now?
On wildcards, youd be better constructing a final ten out of two final five systems
If you’re suggesting each team expands their list further to meet the physical demands of a 30 game season then you’re diluting the quality of the competition even further than it already has since GCS/GWS were introduced.
And the nature of the EPL competition means that not every team is realistically fighting for the title (Leicester in 15/16 was an exceptional outlier of epic proportions). Teams are avoiding relegation, aiming for Europe etc. There is always something to play for.
The A-League and it’s 27 game season is a much better example to use in this scenario. Look at the crowds die off half-way through the season for teams at the bottom of the ladder. They have nothing to play for. You have to find correct balance between keeping fans entertained and amount of games played. 37 weeks of AFL (three preseason games, 30 H&A and four finals) is too much.
St Kilda have had strong teams throughout their 53 year period without a premiership to give the fans continuous hope of that next premiership.
A 30 H&A is doable. To do it you need:
* shorter games
* bigger lists
* better play management (players have mandated 2 games off per year, to be managed by club/player)
* no official pre-season games
Will it ever happen? Not a chance.
Yep, surprised the AFL have not mentioned this, would give them 2 extra finals than simply giving 1st-6th the week off
When Tassie comes, every one plays each other once plus 1 bye... 18 games over 19 weeks.... Time to ditch the 22 games from the VFL era, it no longer fits, less is more
Agree , 12 teams / 22 rounds made sense ....
6 teams added but nothing has been done to the fixture ... dumb !!
Just do away with H& A & just have finals ...
Agree , 12 teams / 22 rounds made sense ....
6 teams added but nothing has been done to the fixture ... dumb !!
A 30 H&A is doable. To do it you need:
* shorter games
* bigger lists
* better play management (players have mandated 2 games off per year, to be managed by club/player)
* no official pre-season games
Will it ever happen? Not a chance.
Go by previous seasons ladder. Obviously all teams play each other once but the 3 groups by the previous seasons ladder will decide the 5 return games each team plays.
Group A - 1,4,7,10,13,16
Group B - 2,5,8,11,14,17
Group C - 3,6,9,12,15,18.
Obviously some teams will cop more travel than others but at least everyone knows what to expect.
Could be done... the season is just a 17 week "Final 18" where sides are ranked 1-18 and are promoted up a tier via a win, or drop a tier via a loss (no draws).
Loser of the bottom tier game drops out every week until you are left with just two sides - the GF.
To add variety, switch the home side for every occurrence of a re-match... GF still at the MCG.
(not serious)
Round | Match | Name | Team 1 | Team 2 | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | A | Elimination Final | Rank 4 | v | Rank 5 |
B | Qualifying Final | Rank 2 | v | Rank 3 | |
2 | C | 1st Semi Final | Loser B | v | Winner A |
D | 2nd Semi Final | Rank 1 | v | Winner B | |
3 | E | Preliminary Final | Loser D | v | Winner C |
4 | F | Grand Final | Winner D | v | Winner E |
No need for conferences, but a 26 game fixture could solve most of the problems for an 18 team comp.
Playing each other once is not fair, despite what people think.Play once only, rotating season to season. fairer but theres still unfairness re advantages gainad via ladder position.