TV Fixturing going forward with increased Streaming

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Hey all, had a thought.

With the introduction of services such as Kayo and the increased ability to stream games on the internet, is there any merit in looking at altering the standard non holiday weekend fixture timeslots?

Take for example the NBAs Christmas Day scheduling, they essentially go game after game for 10-12 hours with no concurrent games. I know blah blah why copy Americans... But it gives a national audience to every game.

This allows everyone to watch every game live. It also allows the leauge to get even longer time on TV.

Thursday and Friday night could be left alone though there's scope for a b2b game depending on venue/time. Saturday could begin mid day and work it's way to 10.30ish. Likewise Sunday. Or push a game to Monday night as a possibility.

Just seems long term FTA isn't the likely format choice. As the next media rights kick in it'll only erode more anyway.

Having 2 games simultaneously only limits national audience and exposure.

Thoughts?
 
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Thursdays will happen every round eventually partly because of this.

Not sure I understand the NBA reference, however? That's a byproduct of Christmas Day only having a handful of games, and their rights belonging to national networks instead of regional networks, as far as I know.
 
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Thursdays will happen every round eventually partly because of this.

Not sure I understand the NBA reference, however? That's a byproduct of Christmas Day only having a handful of games, and their rihts belonging to national networks instead of regional networks, as far as I know.
Just saying to use that day as a model. We don't have 30 teams like them but if every game gets standalone it's increased viewing and exposure.

No reason why we can't program it every weekend..
 

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Seems inevitable and already trending that way. Not good from the perspective of the fan who actually goes to games though.
 

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Who pays the AFL,how do they get the cost back not to mention the profit, who produces the stream?
All it is, is changing start times. Ensuring no double up.

7 can say we want the 7pm timeslot game for instance.

Not sure why that's complicated?

Streaming is the future. Not FTA.

If the rights go to Facebook YouTube or something else, there's more money there.
 

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All it is, is changing start times. Ensuring no double up.

7 can say we want the 7pm timeslot game for instance.

Not sure why that's complicated?

Streaming is the future. Not FTA.

If the rights go to Facebook YouTube or something else, there's more money there.
So someone will pay for FTA rights, $s: more or less, how much less? Where will the advertising dollar go?

Will production of the game go to an independent, e.g https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=12718908

The FIXture is not the problem, its the $s ?? More widely available the picture the lesser the advertising appeal/dollars?
 

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So someone will pay for FTA rights, $s: more or less, how much less? Where will the advertising dollar go?

Will production of the game go to an independent, e.g https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=12718908

The FIXture is not the problem, its the $s ?? More widely available the picture the lesser the advertising appeal/dollars?
Not sure what your point is and why this is relevant?

All I'm suggesting is to not run concurrent games that way the AFL gets more exposure and screen on time. Look at the benefit of the Christmas Day fixturing on the NBA. Only multiply it every weekend for the AFL.

Why is the dollar figures relevant? How is anything else impacted? Everyone's getting MORE exposure.
 

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Not sure what your point is and why this is relevant?

All I'm suggesting is to not run concurrent games that way the AFL gets more exposure and screen on time. Look at the benefit of the Christmas Day fixturing on the NBA. Only multiply it every weekend for the AFL.

Why is the dollar figures relevant? How is anything else impacted? Everyone's getting MORE exposure.
Yes, the FIXture is not the problem, the AFL wont do it unless there are more dollars: yes/no?
The ayes have it.
Who pays more? Not me, I pay Fox & get a great coverage (Eagles fan living in Melbourne, no FTA on the derby).
 

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Yes, the FIXture is not the problem, the AFL wont do it unless there are more dollars: yes/no? The ayes have it.
Who pays more?
Can you stop with the FIXture paranoia?

None of that is relevant.

The AFL will gain more from international companies bidding on the streaming tights rather than being limited to Telstra. That's a given.

How those companies make their money back is their concern. And if there's no concurrent games it's only obvious that there's more ad revenue being generated.
 

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Who pays more? Not me, I pay Fox & get a great coverage (Eagles fan living in Melbourne, no FTA on the derby).
You are already paying more than you should as Kayo is cheaper and Telstra is free for Mobile subscribers.

You don't think Netflix or Amazon can produce this as affordable?
 

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You are already paying more than you should as Kayo is cheaper and Telstra is free for Mobile subscribers.

You don't think Netflix or Amazon can produce this as affordable?
I'm paying & happy, what are you prepared to pay or do you want it for nothing? I use my Fox $s for my other love, motorsport.
 

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You realise F1 and all other motorsports of note are included In Kayo right?
Indeed I do, its not the coverage I choose & happily pay for. You are coming across as wanting it for nothing ... ?

I'll continue with the FIXture when the AFL stops loading it against footy in SA & WA, but each to his own.
 
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My expectation is that AFL media (or more likely Croc Media) will produce all games, with the AFL selling local packages for each team to each market. Ie selling all West Coast away games live on Ch 7, home games on delay (live home games avaliable on AFL owned streaming app, or you go to the game).
 

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My expectation is that AFL media (or more likely Croc Media) will produce all games, with the AFL selling local packages for each team to each market. Ie selling all West Coast away games live on Ch 7, home games on delay (live home games avaliable on AFL owned streaming app, or you go to the game).
& the dollars? Its relevant !! No money, no deal.

Many Australians dont live in their 'local market', delay is going backwards.
 

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My expectation is that AFL media (or more likely Croc Media) will produce all games, with the AFL selling local packages for each team to each market. Ie selling all West Coast away games live on Ch 7, home games on delay (live home games avaliable on AFL owned streaming app, or you go to the game).
I'd actually like the NBA and the F1 (overseas) models where you pay the sport directly. I think cutting out the middle man is the long term future.

But given the AFL has gone outta it's way to keep itself on the back page throughout the year with a variety of strategies like AFLX AFLW etc etc it'd seem to me they'd love a weekend filled to the brim with non stop AFL.
 

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I'd actually like the NBA and the F1 (overseas) models where you pay the sport directly. I think cutting out the middle man is the long term future.

But given the AFL has gone outta it's way to keep itself on the back page throughout the year with a variety of strategies like AFLX AFLW etc etc it'd seem to me they'd love a weekend filled to the brim with non stop AFL.
We get the UK Sky F! coverage including practice, qualiying, pre race, post race - far more comprehensive than the FTA days.

Not a basketball devotee so, is it not streamed, does one network hold the rights? Same question the NFL, it seems to be the preferred AFL template.
 

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We get the UK Sky F! coverage including practice, qualiying, pre race, post race - far more comprehensive than the FTA days.
So does Kayo. It's cheaper. No idea why you are paying double for Foxtel...
Not a basketball devotee so, is it not streamed, does one network hold the rights? Same question the NFL, it seems to be the preferred AFL template.
The NBA is as good as it gets. You pay for 1 team or you pay a fraction more for the whole league. With varying commentators as well.
 

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