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Mystery Flight MH370 missing

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Sydney Bloods said:
depends how quickly it occurred it really is quick scary look at the Cyprus flight 522 in may 2005 (only 9 years ago), that happened slowly and yet despite numerous alarms the pilots only made one call raving on about cooling equipment, no mayday nothing. and despite being told to check the air pressure he didn't. conversation consisted of just 4 sentences.....after that no contact was made.

the plane was in a holding pattern (on auto pilot) near an airport and just continued to circle. when the tower operator couldn't get hold of the pilots alarm bells rang fighters were dispatched and confirmed oxygen masks had dropped and no one was moving.

eventually the plane ran out of fuel and crashed, subsequent investigation suggests even though the pressure loss was slow that only 1 alarm sounded before the pilots were so badly affected by a lack of oxygen they didn't even think clearly enough to put on their masks. the fighter pilots also said it didn't appear that the passenger's had put their masks on either.

lack of oxygen from pressure doesn't cause you to gasp for air, its more you become confused cant think straight you can black out before even noticing somethings wrong.
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simplify what you are saying happened.
plane on auto pilot, then everyone blanks out, plane goes along on merry way?
 

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monstabud said:
what about the oxygen masks? the pilots would of had time to issue a sos.
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Not if they didn't notice the leak until narcosis had started to take an effect.

It's as good a theory as any at this stage - cabin pressure slowly drops, crew notice it too late, attempt to change the transponder code to 7700 but being affected by narcosis accidentally turn it off, they change the autopilot to heading hold (after turning about) and try to bring the aircraft down below 14,000 (set the AP to descend at 6000 fpm) but in their stupor they black out, descending at high rate and a high angle into the water leaving a small debris field.

Wouldn't be the first time:(
 
monstabud said:
nahhh just havn a dig! point me to a link where it describes Half auto pilot, got some dudes on a airplane forum hangn for the answer?
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looking for commercial autopilot systems now.
basically there's a number for different modes
full auto pilot completely controls the plane (can even land the mother****er)

what I mean by half on is that the plane maintains its current altitude and compass heading, the planes system automatically adjusts flight controls to maintain this.

FULL auto pilot means you can select a flight path and the plane will make all the course corrections to fly from point A to point B. I may be using the wrong terminology here.
 
Smokeyr67 said:
Not if they didn't notice the leak until narcosis had started to take an effect.

It's as good a theory as any at this stage - cabin pressure slowly drops, crew notice it too late, attempt to change the transponder code to 7700 but being affected by narcosis accidentally turn it off, they change the autopilot to heading hold (after turning about) and try to bring the aircraft down below 14,000 (set the AP to descend at 6000 fpm) but in their stupor they black out, descending at high rate and a high angle into the water leaving a small debris field.

Wouldn't be the first time:(
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so theres a slow leak narcosis starts kickn in. wouldnt you go for the oxy mask first?
 
Sydney Bloods said:
looking for commercial autopilot systems now.
basically there's a number for different modes
full auto pilot completely controls the plane (can even land the mothergoose)

what I mean by half on is that the plane maintains its current altitude and compass heading, the planes system automatically adjusts flight controls to maintain this.

FULL auto pilot means you can select a flight path and the plane will make all the course corrections to fly from point A to point B. I may be using the wrong terminology here.
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is full auto pilot the right terminology?
 
Sydney Bloods said:
looking for commercial autopilot systems now.
basically there's a number for different modes
full auto pilot completely controls the plane (can even land the mothergoose)
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Only on some systems and at the right airport, not many are equipped with ALS.

Sydney Bloods said:
what I mean by half on is that the plane maintains its current altitude and compass heading, the planes system automatically adjusts flight controls to maintain this.

FULL auto pilot means you can select a flight path and the plane will make all the course corrections to fly from point A to point B. I may be using the wrong terminology here.
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The auto pilot works with the heading, altitude and throttles. You can set it to hold your altitude, climb or descend to an altitude, maintain a speed, maintain a heading or a combination of all of the above. It will interface with the flight management computer to effectively fly the entire flight plan from wheels up to wheels down without any input from the meat bags at the sticks. All axis can be controlled independently as well i.e. if your given a flight level change during flight, you just dial up the new altitude and leave the heading and speed alone, you'll then climb (or descend) maintaining speed and heading.
 

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another thing ive been pondering.
if you were to kidnap a plane, you would want to know when is the plane out of radar range. from my research the radar goes out about 200ks from land and under 30,000 feet in that area. After the 200k mark radar loses its mojo. Then the planes gps tracking system kicks in as the only way to monitor the plane.
i find it a coincidence that just as the plane turns it loses all contact, that in a way tells me that the kidnappers were waiting till that point to do what they had to do, as they would of physically known its past the 200k mark. for instance disable all electronics which would the render the plane basically invisible.
then they drop the plane to below 30,00 feet and fly over to the west of vietnam i think it is where the initial rescue took place, which would also confirm the fishing boat reports of seeing a low flying plane, then they fly the plane low to manman military base where it was also reported early on that the plane had landed there.
just my theory!
 
monstabud said:
another thing ive been pondering.
if you were to kidnap a plane, you would want to know when is the plane out of radar range. from my research the radar goes out about 200ks from land and under 30,000 feet in that area. After the 200k mark radar loses its mojo. Then the planes gps tracking system kicks in as the only way to monitor the plane.
i find it a coincidence that just as the plane turns it loses all contact, that in a way tells me that the kidnappers were waiting till that point to do what they had to do, as they would of physically known its past the 200k mark. for instance disable all electronics which would the render the plane basically invisible.
then they drop the plane to below 30,00 feet and fly over to the west of vietnam i think it is where the initial rescue took place, which would also confirm the fishing boat reports of seeing a low flying plane, then they fly the plane low to manman military base where it was also reported early on that the plane had landed there.
just my theory!
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Better than Iranian/African/Asian "looking" terrorists, mid-air explosions, lasers and other "sensible" theories that just don't measure up to any of the evidence (or lack thereof)

Hell, I'm even starting to seriously consider alien intervention.:eek:

Makes as much sense as anything else right now
 
Every possibility of the actual events of the flight are immediately contradicted by several reasons why it couldn't be that. Nothing adds up and nothing makes sense.
Must be the work of extra terrestrials...
 
Hawks1994 said:
Every possibility of the actual events of the flight are immediately contradicted by several reasons why it couldn't be that. Nothing adds up and nothing makes sense.
Must be the work of extra terrestrials...
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I seem to detect a pattern emerging in your posts.
 

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monstabud said:
another thing ive been pondering.
if you were to kidnap a plane, you would want to know when is the plane out of radar range. from my research the radar goes out about 200ks from land and under 30,000 feet in that area. After the 200k mark radar loses its mojo. Then the planes gps tracking system kicks in as the only way to monitor the plane.
i find it a coincidence that just as the plane turns it loses all contact, that in a way tells me that the kidnappers were waiting till that point to do what they had to do, as they would of physically known its past the 200k mark. for instance disable all electronics which would the render the plane basically invisible.
then they drop the plane to below 30,00 feet and fly over to the west of vietnam i think it is where the initial rescue took place, which would also confirm the fishing boat reports of seeing a low flying plane, then they fly the plane low to manman military base where it was also reported early on that the plane had landed there.
just my theory!
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this is my way of thinking too. The reports of people ringing phones and they ring and then disconnect. What if the plane has been hijacked and will be used in another 9/11 type attack. What would you do if a plane load of innocent people was on a direct path to destruction, how would you deal with it?
 
MannumPower said:
this is my way of thinking too. The reports of people ringing phones and they ring and then disconnect. What if the plane has been hijacked and will be used in another 9/11 type attack. What would you do if a plane load of innocent people was on a direct path to destruction, how would you deal with it?
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Intercept the bogey.
 
MannumPower said:
this is my way of thinking too. The reports of people ringing phones and they ring and then disconnect. What if the plane has been hijacked and will be used in another 9/11 type attack. What would you do if a plane load of innocent people was on a direct path to destruction, how would you deal with it?
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suppose if it were flying towards one of our houses you would shoot the thing down, but if it were to hit parliament house and smacked abbott and hockey in the head i wouldnt be to concerned, tho id feel for those on board.
but i dont think that will happen here, the damage has been done so to speak.
 
MannumPower said:
don't say aliens are shit on this thread you might offend some of us aliens
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If they took this plain, then they're really shit .Well? Whats the point of doing something like this and not telling anyone? party poopers.
 

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