Autopsy flogged by hawks, back to game over at half time times

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I know for a fact players have complained about it.

It’s almost as if it outdated and doesn’t stand up to current forward structures.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Ok ladies and gentlemen. I need to know your thoughts. Are we actually improving or we’re just a delusional supporter base hoping that the odd win (against very ordinary opposition) is a sign of improvement?

If 'improvement' means being able to be consistently competitive (not win - just be competitive) against the top teams then no we haven't improved at all.

However if improvement means getting a couple of more wins against bottom 6 clubs then yes we have improved a bit on last year.

 

[Val Keating]

LDU was fantastic and he was slipping over more than anyone…

He was terrible without the ball. Most were I spose, but him jogging and giving up the chase stood out to me.

 

[DuckYeah]

It’s almost as if it outdated and doesn’t stand up to current forward structures.

Theres an issue that there simply isn’t enough time on the track every week to work on it

 

[Val Keating]

I know for a fact players have complained about it.

To the coaches? Or amongst themselves?

 

[Karanicolas]

The defensive positioning was fine last week - it relies on team defence, and the fact is our midfield were outworked from the first bounce.

 

[Sphynx]

I just can’t see this actually progressing the way we all want it, you have to be brutally honest.

This white flag mentality happens too often and there’s no historical example of a side like this turning into a contender.

I think we need to make some drastic measures at the end of the year.

I’d have all of Powell, Simpkin maybe even Larkey on the trade table.

We need to attempt….. something.

We are wedded to a few players long term, so the die is cast in that respect.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The defensive positioning was fine last week - it relies on team defence, and the fact is our midfield were outworked from the first bounce.

You can’t have a system that relies on total and utter midfield dominance to compete.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I just can’t see this actually progressing the way we all want it, you have to be brutally honest.

This white flag mentality happens too often and there’s no historical example of a side like this turning into a contender.

I think we need to make some drastic measures at the end of the year.

I’d have all of Powell, Simpkin maybe even Larkey on the trade table.

We need to attempt….. something.

We are wedded to a few players long term, so the die is cast in that respect.

This bloke is a genuine fraud.

Should’ve been subbed after giving up an off the ball free kick IN THE FIRST ****ING TWO MINUTES.

****.

 

[Sphynx]

This bloke is a genuine fraud.

Should’ve been subbed after giving up an off the ball free kick IN THE FIRST ****ING TWO MINUTES.

****.

It’s funny, I was fuming at that free.

Because I said to myself, “if that gives them a feebie and they kick another one or two more and we go to water with the early momentum”….


Look what happened.

He’s been doing this cheap shit his entire career. For every tackle last week, there’s 2 dozen cheap swinging arms. He would have had his head caved in 30 years ago.

 

[DuckYeah]

The defensive positioning was fine last week - it relies on team defence, and the fact is our midfield were outworked from the first bounce.

No, it wasn’t. You can identify this by the transition stats when we turn the ball over after a shonky inside 50 or turnover forward of centre. Its crap

 

[DuckYeah]

I just can’t see this actually progressing the way we all want it, you have to be brutally honest.

This white flag mentality happens too often and there’s no historical example of a side like this turning into a contender.

I think we need to make some drastic measures at the end of the year.

I’d have all of Powell, Simpkin maybe even Larkey on the trade table.

We need to attempt….. something.

We are wedded to a few players long term, so the die is cast in that respect.

Breaking up the boys club mightn’t be the worst idea ive ever heard

 

[ChopChopDigDig]

Also wtf was hardeman on their key talls and this was from centre bounce clearances- so wasn’t a swap in transition

They didn’t play to Hardemans strengths at all. No kick ins (just Daniel chipping to the pocket over and over ffs) and lockdown roles on far bigger players instead of running off.

 

[Hojuman]

Side note;
Pre-game on the telecast they showed " the boys " in a circle bare chested to a tee with Jy telling them what it apparently means to pull on the mighty NMFC jumper.

How about a nice Ken Done 100yr anniversary 80's type special one off edition number to flog online next week after the game to supporters ?
Something like the purple and green G.F. one that looked like the front of a laundry washing powder packet. $150. Get in before there all gone and only online at the Roo shop.

 

[datakid]

Wardlaw isn't consistent enough, or good enough. Should be playing the twos until we see a three month, uninterrupted, patch of form. He is a liability when named in the firsts at this point. His potential is huge, but his form and continuity doesn't warrant a spot - a shame, but the truth.

 

[shinboner magic]

I just can’t see this actually progressing the way we all want it, you have to be brutally honest.

This white flag mentality happens too often and there’s no historical example of a side like this turning into a contender.

I think we need to make some drastic measures at the end of the year.

I’d have all of Powell, Simpkin maybe even Larkey on the trade table.

We need to attempt….. something.

We are wedded to a few players long term, so the die is cast in that respect.

Our club for this century has put up the white flag more than any other and it’s just not the last five years.
Smashed in the finals by * by over 100 pts
Kings last game , stevos last game , smashed in the quartets last game in 2016 , countless finals and first games of the season.
We’ve been mentally soft for so long.

 

[Karanicolas]

You can’t have a system that relies on total and utter midfield dominance to compete.

It doesn’t rely on total midfield dominance. It relies on pressure being applied for the full game so that you can intercept and score on turnover.

Our pressure rating was abysmal for the whole game.

 

[William Caresser]

He was terrible without the ball. Most were I spose, but him jogging and giving up the chase stood out to me.

Just when we thought the midfield might've raised their baseline for defensive effort, they take four steps back, relapse and put in the equal worst midfield effort without the ball for the last four years.

 

[Whereitallbegan]

Watched it on delay ... wtf with slipping over?? Wtf with dorkthorn and free kicks from centre bounces?? How many did they get, 12? Quite deflating ....

You watched it on delay? so you had no idea of what was ahead of you? I hope not. Not sure if I respect you for doing that or have you committed to the nuthouse!

 

[Val Keating]

Just when we thought the midfield might've raised their baseline for defensive effort, they take four steps back, relapsed and put in the equal worst midfield effort without the ball for the last four years.

It sucks. Before yesterday’s game I was thinking this is their chance to show they’re legit, but no, they let us down again.

It’s like they don’t realise that the level they played at last week is what is expected every week and that they are capable of actually doing it.

 

[William Caresser]

It doesn’t rely on total midfield dominance. It relies on pressure being applied for the full game so that you can intercept and score on turnover.

Our pressure rating was abysmal for the whole game.

Agree, absolutely atrocious defensive effort from our midfield at stoppages and in general play. They allowed the Hawks unpressured ball movement into their forward line.

In general, our midfield rates about:

• 8/10 for winning clearances
• about 5/10 for their ball use and
• 3 out of 10 for defensive pressure.

The last trait is a big reason we're 16th but there's never any consequences for it. Instead fringe, role players get dropped as though that'll fix the problem.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It doesn’t rely on total midfield dominance. It relies on pressure being applied for the full game so that you can intercept and score on turnover.

Our pressure rating was abysmal for the whole game.

We score predominantly from stoppages.

Our turnover game, both ways, has been dross for years.

The whole set up is cooked.

 

[Reginald0]

Have to agree with that

4Q 100%

Until that happens every week we are just hoping
That said there is a lot of young blokes and veterans so not much experience playing together
But need to have a different approach
Play 20 blokes down back
The thrashings are very destructive to players and fans

 

[Karanicolas]

We score predominantly from stoppages.

Our turnover game, both ways, has been dross for years.

The whole set up is cooked.

Agree.

The behind the goals vision of one of the goals showed how a defender (I think it was Pink) was exposed by Hawthorn being able to transition into their I50 without any pressure.

It was an indictment on the team as a whole.

 

[rickety]

You watched it on delay? so you had no idea of what was ahead of you? I hope not. Not sure if I respect you for doing that or have you committed to the nuthouse!

Media blackout until I got home. Fast forwarded the highlighty bits, and the dorkthorn shots at goal, so ripped through a fair bit. Already a comfortable resident of the nuthouse