News FOF Ticket Watch - Challenge called off.

["The Roar Is Back"]

FJ driven again , trying to save his arse again.

 

[Mr Magic]

Why was the Club Song not sung??

 

[Ned_Flanders]

His question on Prestia was very, very good!

What was it? Does Prestia drink VB or XXXX?

 

[TimorTiger]

Contract, they won't come in and say we will sack him if elected without knowing everything such as finances etc.

So why not say words to that effect instead of a clear endorsement? Did they wink or something when they said we are supporting the coach?

I can't believe that their strategy involves deceiving everyone by giving a clear commitment to supporting the coach, only to turn around a sack him once in power - imagine the fallout.

 

[Coxy_]

What did they say?

Just pushing hard with their questions (as they should to be fair) and probably getting a little bit wet at the same time. Rat Boy did say something about him texting Neil Balme and Neil saying he doesn't want a part of this group or something along those lines.

 

[Mr Magic]

His question on Prestia was very, very good!

At least something will be questioned and challenged. Not enough scrutiny for me!

 

[Slipps]

Not personal, but I find Peggy as inspiring and knowledgeable as cotton.
Cringe wehn she speaks. Other clubs are welcome to her and I doubt she'll have any more success than she's had here.

Wait what shes speaks when ?

 

[turtle27]

If this has been 18 months in the making as they say, you would think they would have been better prepared when it came to taking questions.

And at least have spoke to Balme.

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

i got the impression when asked about prestia, these guys arent keen on him

 

[Sir_Loin]

why would they stick around ?

I don't see a premiership coming in the next four years

The list is ****ed. Everyone can see it. If the club knew what it was doing it would come out and say it and trade some of those players that have currency to stock up on low first round picks this year and next

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Just pushing hard with their questions (as they should to be fair) and probably getting a little bit wet at the same time. Rat Boy did say something about him texting Neil Balme and Neil saying he doesn't want a part of this group or something along those lines.

Rat boy will be out for blood on this

Think caro is on board too. She changed her position last week, and IMO having two women on this ticket (unlike zero with Bob the builder) may have swayed her about her concerns about knifing O'Neil

 

[TigermanM2]

Compare Simon Wallace's first rate effort with these clowns. They are embarrassing and have got ahead of themselves.

To be fair, Simon Wallace hasn't been grilled in a press conference environment with media going in for the kill. Not to say he wouldn't stand up but its a bit different.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Some things I took out of that press conference that didn't sit really well with me...
*The board will dictate the type of game plan our coach is to implement. That's is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard.
*Keeping all key figures in their respective roles. You're either making changes or you're not.
*Naming Neil Balme, if you don't get him, you look stupid straight off the bat.
*Having ex players from 30 years ago as your football directors who have next to no involvement in footy since they retired.

Thought it all started well and they shouldnt have taken questions, went south real quick.

Sounds like Peggy, Benny and co will be shaking in their boots...........................NOT.

 

[Mr Magic]

So why not say words to that effect instead of a clear endorsement? Did they wink or something when they said we are supporting the coach?

I can't believe that their strategy involves deceiving everyone by giving a clear commitment to supporting the coach, only to turn around a sack him once in power - imagine the fallout.

That does not bother me because the coach is not important initially. What is important is the recruitment, list management, development in decision making to build towards contention!!

 

[Cotcho]

Wait! Isn't that how Hardwick got his job?

Don't be fooled by visualisation, worry about their credentials, experience and suggestions for change.

I know but if you are publishing policies and information online about a pretty serious matter. Surely you double check what you are putting there. If your processes are correct you don't see these mistakes. And if you do see mistakes...well are the processes correct? Just seems amateurish to begin with.


As for the whole, vote for change thing. I don't think that we are as far away as what many claim. 3 year ago I know that our list wasnt good enough for a flag and I knew that we would plateau. We werent as close as what many thought, but now we arent as far away. People live to get carried away. It's black or white, it's a dream or a disaster.

It's neither of those things. The clubs still in good shape IMO, The current board knows we need a change and thus there is a lot of player and coach movement already happening and will happen. Stability is what we needed and now we need to shake things up a little. A bit of fine tuning. I'm not at all convinced we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Just my opinion.

 

[Mr Magic]

Who should they keep of the current board???

Could keep Peggy and the financial guy??? Who will be President??? Should Dunne stay??

 

[MR]

I was utterly unconvinced by this board presentation.

If you look at it purely objectively, the only difference this board is planning on making is a "change in attitude."

No change to senior positions, and the only implementation being a CEO of Football whose position differs from the General Manager of Football how?

And even more embarassing was this premise that Neil Balme would come in to fix our football woes, only for a text message to come in saying he wants "no part" in the initiative.

Similarly, when asked about some of the hard questions, we got the similar umms and ahhs that we are so used to seeing by our club.

Especially the answer by the so-called "football directors" to whether we should trade pick 6 for Prestia highlighted the incompetency of this board.

Why? Well they desire to dictate how football is played at our club and their plan is to have someone make the decision for them. They are no better than yes-men.

Pure indecision. It's of what both our current board and this challenging board reeks.

It's easy to use platitudes such "ruthlessness," or "accountability" to rile up supporters but it's clear not much thought has been put into this as they were unable to demonstrate what actual changes were planned on being made.

I know where my vote is going.

 

[AstuteTiger]

LOL hardwick to stay LOL

I really dont think they can say we will sack the coach, if they get in which im hoping they do, changes will be made, on dimma not 100% he will remain

 

[TigermanM2]

Its ridiculous to mention 35 years since our last flag, and then say that two players from 35 years ago will oversee the football department. They needed to get someone younger (e.g., Campbell, Dan Jackson, etc etc) to oversee the footy department. The fact they they haven't/couldn't isn't a great advertisement for them.

Yeah it wasn't lost on me but it's impossible to preach that you are bringing successful Richmond football people back to the club and include more recent players.

 

[Oh we're from..]

Hate the term 'rebuild'. Such an overused word in footy. What is the definition of a 'rebuild'? Is what the Saints have done over the past 4-5 years considered a rebuild? They brought in a number of players from other clubs.

 

[Mr Magic]

I know but if you are publishing policies and information online about a pretty serious matter. Surely you double check what you are putting there. If your processes are correct you don't see these mistakes. And if you do see mistakes...well are the processes correct? Just seems amateurish to begin with.


As for the whole, vote for change thing. I don't think that we are as far away as what many claim. 3 year ago I know that our list wasnt good enough for a flag and I knew that we would plateau. We werent as close as what many thought, but now we arent as far away. People live to get carried away. It's black or white, it's a dream or a disaster.

It's neither of those things. The clubs still in good shape IMO, The current board knows we need a change and thus there is a lot of player and coach movement already happening and will happen. Stability is what we needed and now we need to shake things up a little. A bit of fine tuning. I'm not at all convinced we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Just my opinion.

Yeah it surprised me they committed to so many personnel including players instead of saying their will be a review with an emphasis on performance and our cultural characteristics we are looking to forge to build the club including leadership and relevance to our path to the next premiership direction thats realistic!!

At least Bruce said a rebuild!!

 

[TigermanM2]

And at least have spoke to Balme.

I don't believe for a second that "someone" hasn't spoken to Balmey.

 

[smasha]

KB is right on SEN.
The club now needs to come out and make a statement.

 

[AstuteTiger]

I was utterly unconvinced by this board presentation.

If you look at it purely objectively, the only difference this board is planning on making is a "change in attitude."

No change to senior positions, and the only implementation being a CEO of Football whose position differs from the General Manager of Football how?

And even more embarassing was this premise that Neil Balme would come in to fix our football woes, only for a text message to come in saying he wants "no part" in the initiative.

Similarly, when asked about some of the hard questions, we got the similar umms and ahhs that we are so used to seeing by our club.

Especially the answer by the so-called "football directors" to whether we should trade pick 6 for Prestia highlighted the incompetency of this board.

Why? Well they desire to dictate how football is played at our club and their plan is to have someone make the decision for them. They are no better than yes-men.

Pure indecision. It's of what both our current board and this challenging board reeks.

It's easy to use platitudes such "ruthlessness," or "accountability" to rile up supporters but it's clear not much thought has been put into this as they were unable to demonstrate what actual changes were planned on being made.

I know where my vote is going.

Regardless on ur thoughts MR, would you still like peggy and Co to remain?
I for one want change and this group for me wants to focus on football matters...
As if they will outline all their thoughts and plans to the media without actually being in charge, once in they will get to work dont underestimate them they have grand plans which in time will implement....

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Will be interesting to see what gale says about staying on with the new board. Last egm was swayed IMO by miller saying he'd walk if the challenge won.

Genuinely interested to see if he plays the mark Taylor defensive block and stays out of it, or if he nails his colours to the mast