Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[Section 5]

I'm starting to smell that perhaps the golden years for the AFL empire may have reached its zenith. The Tasmanian project looks very shaky, in its current form it won't get through two houses of parliament, presided over by a highly minority government, many believe it was always set up to fail. So, no more expansion.

FOXTEL sold to a European entity who won't value broadcast rights as highly. Ticket prices frozen to keep up attendances despite recent high inflation (a nod to them being exorbitant in the first place). And now the complete collapse of junior footy teams in Western Sydney. Not being an international sport always meant they would reach peak AFL, the signs are all around if you look for them.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/07/blacktown-bust-with-no-junior-australian-rules-club-left-in-giants-nursery-is-the-game-under-threat-in-western-sydney/

No doom and gloom yet. Come the next media deal maybe the AFL will have to reduce spending like in the covid years.
At least the AFL have a media deal signed not so the NRL

In my opinion Tasmania should not have been given a license.
So, if the Tasmania Government of the day says they are pulling finance, the AFL can say they tried but can't afford to fully fund a stadium.
The AFL are stubborn and may go ahead and play at whatever ground is available in Tasmania with 5/6 home games being played in Melbourne.

The ticket prices are only for general admission seating.
Better off getting bums on seats and people eating pies and chips when there is ample room than charging higher prices and have lots of empty seats

 

[dlanod]

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I saw that Lion wandering up and down during the first Test and was wondering what the hell was going on.

Didn't realise the Sri Lankans were Lions too. I feel for them now!

 

[Mr Ripper]

Relocate the Giants and Giants Stadium to Hobart. Two problems solved with one hit.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

I'm starting to smell that perhaps the golden years for the AFL empire may have reached its zenith. The Tasmanian project looks very shaky, in its current form it won't get through two houses of parliament, presided over by a highly minority government, many believe it was always set up to fail. So, no more expansion.

FOXTEL sold to a European entity who won't value broadcast rights as highly. Ticket prices frozen to keep up attendances despite recent high inflation (a nod to them being exorbitant in the first place). And now the complete collapse of junior footy teams in Western Sydney. Not being an international sport always meant they would reach peak AFL, the signs are all around if you look for them.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/07/blacktown-bust-with-no-junior-australian-rules-club-left-in-giants-nursery-is-the-game-under-threat-in-western-sydney/

I don't disagree at all, but I think it's a much broader problem than the AFL. There are equally concerning trends across cricket, NRL, Union and soccer too.

Whether it's due to rising cost of living, generational movement away from participating in club sport, shortened attention spans, the loss of a communal sense of life as society becomes more and more individualistic, or some combination of the above, I think our national identity as a sporting nation is certainly in a bit of trouble at the moment.

 

[Saucery]

No doom and gloom yet. Come the next media deal maybe the AFL will have to reduce spending like in the covid years.
At least the AFL have a media deal signed not so the NRL

In my opinion Tasmania should not have been given a license.
So, if the Tasmania Government of the day says they are pulling finance, the AFL can say they tried but can't afford to fully fund a stadium.
The AFL are stubborn and may go ahead and play at whatever ground is available in Tasmania with 5/6 home games being played in Melbourne.

The ticket prices are only for general admission seating.
Better off getting bums on seats and people eating pies and chips when there is ample room than charging higher prices and have lots of empty seats

Those were just examples. I don't mean it's all about to fall, but it can't expect to keep up its current growth rates in a closed system. All I said is the golden days may be over as overseas expansion isn't on the cards and our population growth rate is pretty stagnant. What I'm talking about is a time of diminishing returns on investments. Your covid example is probably a little too much but the AFL's fate is tied to one economy only.

 

[Saucery]

I don't disagree at all, but I think it's a much broader problem than the AFL. There are equally concerning trends across cricket, NRL, Union and soccer too.

Whether it's due to rising cost of living, generational movement away from participating in club sport, shortened attention spans, the loss of a communal sense of life as society becomes more and more individualistic, or some combination of the above, I think our national identity as a sporting nation is certainly in a bit of trouble at the moment.

Yes indeed, though having international outlets allows them to be more resilient against shocks, the AFL is really in a very small, vulnerable pond called Australia.

 

[Section 5]

Two articles on players wages.

AFL welcomes six more players to millionaires’ club as market booms for top-end talent

Six more AFL players have elevated themselves into the millionaires’ row as the league announced its 2024 financial results

www.theguardian.com

The highest paid players in the AFL as rich list revealed

More players than ever before were paid more than $1 million last year

www.afl.com.au

No Lions players mentioned in the elite bracket which is good to see.
There could be i suppose as the writer is having a guess.

 

[Dalions]

No Lions players mentioned in the elite bracket which is good to see.
There could be i suppose as the writer is having a guess.

Does the amount of money a player is getting paid automatically means they are elite?
They are on elite money, I guess!

 

[Section 5]

Does the amount of money a player is getting paid automatically means they are elite?
They are on elite money, I guess!

Just my word for the above $1.2 million guys

 

[Lazza16]

Relocate the Giants and Giants Stadium to Hobart. Two problems solved with one hit.

Merge the Giants n Suns and move them to Tassie!

 

[Dalions]

Merge the Giants n Suns and move them to Tassie!

Would be much happier with a Melbourne club moving to Tassie personally.

 

[BangyBangy]

Would be much happier with a Melbourne club moving to Tassie personally.

Or two Melbourne clubs.

The Saint Kangaroo Devils......

Yes, that has quite a ring to it

 

[Saucery]

This is why AFL will always struggle in GWS land.

Mailata's Super Bowl win completes one of Australia's great sporting triumphs

Jordan Mailata's first experience with the Super Bowl was in 2017 watching Beyoncé's half-time show. Now he is a champion and completes one of the greatest sporting triumphs by anyone born on Australia's shores.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Saucery]

Or two Melbourne clubs.

The Saint Kangaroo Devils......

Yes, that has quite a ring to it

Let's please be respectful to the Fitzroy faithful who got to see their team murdered by the AFL, myself included.

 

[dlanod]

Let's please be respectful to the Fitzroy faithful who got to see their team murdered by the AFL, myself included.

Given I see you loving the idea of moving other supporters' clubs in your response to Lazza's post, this does seem a bit hypocritical.

 

[Saucery]

Given I see you loving the idea of moving other supporters' clubs in your response to Lazza's post, this does seem a bit hypocritical.

Where do you draw my love of moving other supporter's clubs from? An emoji? Seriously? If an emoji is now considered to be hypocrisy, then political correctness has reached peak stupidity.

Fitzroy was killed by Ross Oakley, a team which had existed since 1883; don't you even dare to compare what happened there to two demographically constructed pseudo clubs.

 

[dlanod]

Where do you draw my love of moving other supporter's clubs from? An emoji? Seriously? If an emoji is now considered to be hypocrisy, then political correctness has reached peak stupidity.

Sorry, but when someone picks out the love reaction to suggestions of some clubs moving, it sure looks a lot like supporting that. If not, then what it's meant to be? And if they turn around and then complain about other clubs being mentioned, it also sure looks hypocritical.

As for political correctness? Oh god, this is a football forum, not a bloody press club debate. Who gives a shit?

Fitzroy was killed by Ross Oakley, a team which had existed since 1883; don't you even dare to compare what happened there to two demographically constructed pseudo clubs.

I wasn't the one drawing the analogy. Fitzroy was supremely ****ed. I wasn't there but I've bought and read enough of the Fitzroy history to get the idea - it's part of our great club's background, so I wanted to learn as much as I could even second hand. But one of those "pseudo clubs" is also one I'm a bit passionate about (secondary yes, but still) and know there's plenty of others. The idea that those members and fans' opinions and passion doesn't count for as much because there's less of them can either get GTFO or be held up as the same idea as was used to kill Fitzroy - small club, nuke it.

 

[Saucery]

If you say so.

 

[Section 5]

Not that i am a follower or fan of NFL but i always thought the field was about the size of a League and Union field.
I did not realize it is actually smaller than a soccer field.
Going on this article and a google search of a soccer field.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nfl/laughing-stock-picture-exposes-australias-nfl-farce/news-story/cbe0c02b805b4a0b17574037f5fd623a

League/Union: 122 x 68
Soccer: 105 x 68
NFL: 102 x 48

 

[dlanod]

I went to one of the College Football games at ANZ Stadium (back then).

You couldn't see shit unless you were on the upper levels, and you were so far away as to make it pointless.

The MCG is going to be better with more seats on the upper levels, but I pity anyone getting seats down the bottom.

 

[Mr Ripper]

The MCG is a pocket handkerchief compared to VFL Park.

 

[knaf]

Or two Melbourne clubs.

The Saint Kangaroo Devils......

Yes, that has quite a ring to it

Why not the Tasmanian Blue Gum Woods?

 

[Section 5]

Club email this morning. Image below on the "Seat Swap" part
What do posters make of this.
Lacks a lot of detail. 1-4 starts looking like it has promising instructions.
Then 5-7 is really about vouchers/guess tickets. 8-10 continues on

(a) maybe you put your seats on hold for a swap and a group of other seats doing the same appear on a separate screen or most likely a seating map.
(b) then maybe you choose one. However, the other person may not want your seats, so they reject the offer
(c) Let's say they accept the offer because your seats are much better, but then you reject their offer
(d) Or once you put your seats up anyone can swap, and you have no comeback.

Maybe posters have seen this type of ticket swap elsewhere and can explain how it may work




Link to view seat swap. Does not give much detail as it moves on quickly to vouchers/guest tickets.

https://am.ticketmaster.com/brisbanelions/ticketing/seatswap?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=250211+-+Member+Ticket+On+Sale&utm_term=VIEW+SEAT+SWAP+GUIDE&utm_id=224433&sfmc_id=15284774

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In this section (6) it mentions only your seat category will appear/highlighted to make selections.
The problem with this is anyone in Deluxe seats there are no seats available to choose as all sold out.

 

[Perrip]

Rest in Peace the Charlie Cameron 'good bloke' defence.

AFL news: Charlie Cameron ‘good bloke’ defence loophole closed, worn-in balls to be used in games

 

[dlanod]

Rest in Peace the Charlie Cameron 'good bloke' defence.

AFL news: Charlie Cameron ‘good bloke’ defence loophole closed, worn-in balls to be used in games

Worn-in balls sounds painful