Banter FOOTY Banter! - Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood Part 6

[CarmenSandiego]

Trading out 2 senior players and not adding the dual AA bloke with the skillset you're lacking whilst your stars are at their peak is evidence.

Seems pretty reasonable evidence based speculation to me. But yes not definitive.

You might have just chosen to stay a mid table team and added some youngsters to come through later in the hope of remaining a mid table team when your stars wilt.

The situation has been explained so many times, you guys are ****ing obsessed with pushing your agenda at any opportunity.

Kennedy had been on our list 6 years, he wanted to be in the starting midfield. He was told by coaches he was behind Cripps, Hewett, Walsh & Cerra.

He had 1 year on his contract remaining with us, we said he’s welcome to explore a trade for the betterment of his career. He got a 3 year deal from the dogs and with a recent newborn, why the hell wouldn’t he take it? We perhaps too nicely facilitated a trade for what now looks like unders. Played a little bit too nice in my opinion but what can you do?

I’m happy to admit we likely didn’t chase Houston due to a salary cap strain, but Kennedy leaving had nothing to do with that.

 

[beerbandit]

The situation has been explained so many times, you guys are ****ing obsessed with pushing your agenda at any opportunity.

Kennedy had been on our list 6 years, he wanted to be in the starting midfield. He was told by coaches he was behind Cripps, Hewett, Walsh & Cerra.

He had 1 year on his contract remaining with us, we said he’s welcome to explore a trade for the betterment of his career. He got a 3 year deal from the dogs and with a recent newborn, why the hell wouldn’t he take it? We perhaps too nicely facilitated a trade for what now looks like unders. Played a little bit too nice in my opinion but what can you do?

I’m happy to admit we likely didn’t chase Houston due to a salary cap strain, but Kennedy leaving had nothing to do with that.

 

[Worm4]

No different to the offloads of Treloar, Grundy or Adams. Apart from the fact that Carlton don't contribute to Kennedys wage

 

[beerbandit]

No different to the offloads of Treloar, Grundy or Adams. Apart from the fact that Carlton don't contribute to Kennedys wage

Nah Kennedys a far better player then those 3

 

[carlton_99]

Kicking efficiency

A stat that was developed by Ted Hopkins back in the 90s, has no relevance in today's game at all.

Cerra has a negative kick retention and threat rating and is barely in top100 for score involvements, another low impact Carlton mid.

Kicking efficiency is a flawed stat as I have stated previously but the claim was he turns it over a lot which you would see with the stat. Also averages 3.9 turnovers a game. So the claim was wrong.

Cerra is a great two way mid. Helps out with the inside stuff, delays opposition ball movement, great tackler and nice user of the ball. "Low impact" lol

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Kicking efficiency

A stat that was developed by Ted Hopkins back in the 90s, has no relevance in today's game at all.

Cerra has a negative kick retention and threat rating and is barely in top100 for score involvements, another low impact Carlton mid.

Seriously, you guys are off your nut.

You defend Will Hoskin Elliot getting 7 disposals a game by dismissing stats as an example of effectiveness, then bring up stats to talk down Cerras.

 

[beerbandit]

Seriously, you guys are off your nut.

You defend Will Hoskin Elliot getting 7 disposals a game by dismissing stats as an example of effectiveness, then bring up stats to talk down Cerras.

This guy ?

 

[Humblebob]

Seriously, you guys are off your nut.

You defend Will Hoskin Elliot getting 7 disposals a game by dismissing stats as an example of effectiveness, then bring up stats to talk down Cerras.

Tribalism is the best part of being a supporter, I refuse to hear ANY hosky slander.

Cerra looked like he could have been a top line midfielder when the Blues traded for him, what he’s delivered and become is a generic, dime a dozen one.

Has had minimal influence on your seasons and whilst he has the odd game where you will notice him, more often then not he’s an also ran. Slightly worse then Walsh, both have let down Cripps and shoulder zero load.
Good average footballers.

 

[Worm4]

View attachment 2311036This guy ?

Costagna > WHE

 

[carlton_99]

Costagna > WHE

And Buckley

 

[Worm4]

Seriously, you guys are off your nut.

You defend Will Hoskin Elliot getting 7 disposals a game by dismissing stats as an example of effectiveness, then bring up stats to talk down Cerras.

Hoskin Elliot was a top 5 draft pick as well wasn't he ? Shocking, absolutely shocking return

 

[Humblebob]

GWS would be ropable, he’s been a great return for 2 Mars bars and a Powerade

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Costagna > WHE

Elite triple premiership star Wormy, you should get down to the MCG today to honour a true champion

Castagna’s Homecoming Hero honour

Jason Castagna returns to the Tiger Army this weekend.

www.richmondfc.com.au

 

[Worm4]

Elite triple premiership star Wormy, you should get down to the MCG today to honour a true champion

Castagna’s Homecoming Hero honour

Jason Castagna returns to the Tiger Army this weekend.

www.richmondfc.com.au

Went on Friday night and don't think I'll ever return. Joint is full of charged up units . Not a good environment for my kids to say the least

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Kicking efficiency

A stat that was developed by Ted Hopkins back in the 90s, has no relevance in today's game at all.

Cerra has a negative kick retention and threat rating and is barely in top100 for score involvements, another low impact Carlton mid.

Oh boy... Wouldn't be you using 'StAtZ' would it?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Tribalism is the best part of being a supporter, I refuse to hear ANY hosky slander.

Cerra looked like he could have been a top line midfielder when the Blues traded for him, what he’s delivered and become is a generic, dime a dozen one.

Has had minimal influence on your seasons and whilst he has the odd game where you will notice him, more often then not he’s an also ran. Slightly worse then Walsh, both have let down Cripps and shoulder zero load.
Good average footballers.

You blokes really must have brains the size of raisins

 

[Humblebob]

You blokes really must have brains the size of raisins

Wouldn’t expect you to understand or comprehend given your user name and profile picture!

Both are middling on ballers on what they have offered up at this stage of their careers. Neither are match winners nor workhorses, have elite line breaking ability or genuinely hurt you with the football regularly.

Pretty confident with that assessment, you can only hope your next coach will be able to get more out of them as I think they’re both part reason your current list is looking like an ‘almost’ instead of genuine threat.

 

[Worm4]

Has WHE actually ever cracked the top 100 for brownlow or coaches votes ? You'd think a number 4 pick would achieve any sort of individual accolade surely

 

[Humblebob]

Where’s all this WHE hate coming from?

Blokes won a flag as a role player and played a full career regardless of where GWS talent scouts picked him in his draft year.

Going after a 18-26 role player in a list that’s performed very well and had success whilst he’s been at the club is crazy work.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Where’s all this WHE hate coming from?

Blokes won a flag as a role player and played a full career regardless of where GWS talent scouts picked him in his draft year.

Going after a 18-26 role player in a list that’s performed very well and had success whilst he’s been at the club is crazy work.

231 games, massive highlights reel and a flag

Just another successful Collingwood player

 

[Dtennent94]

Has WHE actually ever cracked the top 100 for brownlow or coaches votes ? You'd think a number 4 pick would achieve any sort of individual accolade surely

Collingwood weren’t the ones silly enough to spend Pick 4 on him, so it has no bearing on our fortunes or expectations of him.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Wouldn’t expect you to understand or comprehend given your user name and profile picture!

Both are middling on ballers on what they have offered up at this stage of their careers. Neither are match winners nor workhorses, have elite line breaking ability or genuinely hurt you with the football regularly.

Pretty confident with that assessment, you can only hope your next coach will be able to get more out of them as I think they’re both part reason your current list is looking like an ‘almost’ instead of genuine threat.

As I said. Raisins.

 

[Humblebob]

As I said. Raisins.

Good chat

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Good chat

'nOt a matCh wiNnerr'

 

[YeoShuey]

Cerra looked like he could have been a top line midfielder when the Blues traded for him, what he’s delivered and become is a generic, dime a dozen one.

Has had minimal influence on your seasons and whilst he has the odd game where you will notice him, more often then not he’s an also ran. Slightly worse then Walsh, both have let down Cripps and shoulder zero load.
Good average footballers.