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Docker82

Premiership Player
Jun 21, 2013
3,726
4,495
Perth
AFL Club
Fremantle
I liked Crozier and the club wanted to keep him but Lyon aside from the disaster of 2016 pigeonholed him as a fwd.

But at the end of the day he plays a position half back / half forward where most clubs can replace that sort of player as we have. Handy but able to replaced with a similar type.

Neale on the other hand.

Weller is an upgrade on Crozier because he plays more effectively and can play mid/wing.
You look at the other forwards we had in 2017 and that is possibly why Crozier was a forward that year.

Don’t want to make excuses for the club too much but you can see the reason behind it.

Maybe if we hadn’t delisted De Boer and Barlow, Walters could’ve stayed forward and Crozier could’ve gone back.
 

Superkoops

Premiership Player
May 7, 2009
3,575
5,558
Perth
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Fremantle
You look at the other forwards we had in 2017 and that is possibly why Crozier was a forward that year.

Don’t want to make excuses for the club too much but you can see the reason behind it.

Maybe if we hadn’t delisted De Boer and Barlow, Walters could’ve stayed forward and Crozier could’ve gone back.
Yes I agree we were light on decent forwards for 2017, but he showed a some promise in 2016 and then back to HFF In 2017. I think his injury late 2016 ruined his momentum. Anyway the main point was whether it was HFF or HBF he is replaceable.
 

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E Shed

Fremantle Obsessive
Sep 10, 2006
18,246
26,579
Perth WA
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Fremantle
could field part of a pretty bloody handy team from the ex Freo players running around in other jumpers now.
Neale, Hill, Menagola, Weller, Langdon, Crozier, DeBoer, Sutcliffe, Colins off the top of my head for starters.
 

Dockeroo

Club Legend
Nov 1, 2019
1,094
2,417
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could field part of a pretty bloody handy team from the ex Freo players running around in other jumpers now.
Neale, Hill, Menagola, Weller, Langdon, Crozier, DeBoer, Sutcliffe, Colins off the top of my head for starters.
Dogs fans reckon Crozier is a gun. A lot rate him in their top 5 or 6 players.
 

Square Peg

Premiership Player
Jul 20, 2014
4,354
9,185
Fremantle WA
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Fremantle
could field part of a pretty bloody handy team from the ex Freo players running around in other jumpers now.
Neale, Hill, Menagola, Weller, Langdon, Crozier, DeBoer, Sutcliffe, Colins off the top of my head for starters.
Add Mayne who played another solid game last night, his hands are so clean and he plays within himself.
 

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arsesmart

All Australian
Sep 25, 2018
951
1,585
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could field part of a pretty bloody handy team from the ex Freo players running around in other jumpers now.
Neale, Hill, Menagola, Weller, Langdon, Crozier, DeBoer, Sutcliffe, Colins off the top of my head for starters.
Team maybe overstating it a tad. Half a team? Third of?
 

ImperialPurple

Matthew Pavlich Medallist
May 26, 2003
21,108
11,082
South Fremantle
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
SFFC, Australian Women's Cricket
Saints fans are pretty livid with Billy, dude should be in his career prime now and he's just coasting along for them. Maybe we got the best out of him?
Maybe he’s coasting to the end of his career on the big fat $50K pay cheque he gets each week of the regular season.
He’s won 3 premierships, played with his bro in front of his family and friends, won a club B&F, and now he’s getting $900K per year. Maybe the Saints got duped??
 

Fat Nyfe

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 18, 2012
6,466
12,375
Melbourne
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Fremantle
Maybe he’s coasting to the end of his career on the big fat $50K pay cheque he gets each week of the regular season.
He’s won 3 premierships, played with his bro in front of his family and friends, won a club B&F, and now he’s getting $900K per year. Maybe the Saints got duped??
We basically got Young for him, along with Acres - looks like highway robbery for us!
 

Outshined

Norm Smith Medallist
Jul 12, 2009
6,066
8,959
WA
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Fremantle
Other Teams
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Hill is never going to be a player to dig in and pull a team out of a mess like they were in for 2.5 quarters today.

Looks like we did really nicely out of the trade but the flak he's copping is a bit out of proportion given the role he plays.
 

Schauermann

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 27, 2011
5,512
2,897
Hamburg
AFL Club
Fremantle
Hill is never going to be a player to dig in and pull a team out of a mess like they were in for 2.5 quarters today.
Agree. He is a pure winger. So he depends on good supply from the middle or half back. Then he is a weapon moving the ball inside 50, but without it he a useless. Not going to get the ball a lot by himsels. He is averaging just a little more then 4 contested possessions over his career.
 

Fat Nyfe

Norm Smith Medallist
Mar 18, 2012
6,466
12,375
Melbourne
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Fremantle
Hill is never going to be a player to dig in and pull a team out of a mess like they were in for 2.5 quarters today.

Looks like we did really nicely out of the trade but the flak he's copping is a bit out of proportion given the role he plays.
Lot to pay for a player that won't dig in.

FWIW I'm still a Hill fan, I would've liked him to stay. He'll have some really good games for the Saints. But not complaining about how it's turned out.
 

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