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Let's piss of Tabs and Lobb (well, keep Tabs but as depth) and go all out for Georgiadies.
Out future key forwards for the next 10 years will be Amiss, Treacy and Georgiadies. I'm sick of these guys that are always injured (Tabs) or just not committed (Lobb). It's chips into the table time.
 

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gungho said:
Love a man that brings some insightful, intelligent and articulate thoughts to the debate.
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Each to their own. I thought it was more intelligent than the post preceding it. Tabs will be excellent in 2023. Very talented player. Treacy, we don't even know if he'll make it yet at senior level and Georgiadis is only a wish.

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Rob said:
Go all out? With what? Norf's future 2nd?
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My main point is to trade Lobb (which the Dockers head haunchos have stated they are not going to do), forget Tabs (He's a pretty good player but just not seeing him as a future premiership player), get a young gun (Georgiadies who is unproven but worth a punt) and select Treacy, Amiss and that young gun (hopefully Georgiadies) from here on.
We've backed in the youth for all other parts of the ground and it's worked will, so now lets do it with the forward line.
 
mike91 said:
Insightful, intelligent and articulate totally describes "Piss Tabs off and go all out for Georgiadies"
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Well, the "piss off" part was not directed only at Tabs and is a fairly well-known Australian colloquialism. You've really got some thick skin there buddy.
 
hoss said:
Each to their own. I thought it was more intelligent than the post preceding it. Tabs will be excellent in 2023. Very talented player. Treacy, we don't even know if he'll make it yet at senior level and Georgiadis is only a wish.

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Tabs will be 30 next year. Over a 10 year career he has averaged 12 games a year and 1.4 goals a game. Yes, he's a good AFL player, but he's not consistent enough (in fitness or form) to warrant stopping the progress of a hungry 20-23 year old forward. (that's my point).
 
gungho said:
Well, the "piss off" part was not directed only at Tabs and is a fairly well-known Australian colloquialism. You've really got some thick skin there buddy.
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Yeah, that was the part I laughed at.....

Definitely not the moronic call to trade Tabs and bring in an overrated forward, so we could have 3 talls with less than 60 games leading our forward line.
 
mike91 said:
Yeah, that was the part I laughed at.....

Definitely not the moronic call to trade Tabs and bring in an overrated forward, so we could have 3 talls with less than 60 games leading our forward line.
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You obviously didn’t closely read my post. I didn’t say trade Tabs (not sure you’d get anything for him anyway) just saying we don’t prioritise experience over youth, when the experienced players are not that good. (Similar to walker over wilson, o Driscoll over collier, cox over hamling ect)
 
gungho said:
Let's piss of Tabs and Lobb (well, keep Tabs but as depth) and go all out for Georgiadies.
Out future key forwards for the next 10 years will be Amiss, Treacy and Georgiadies. I'm sick of these guys that are always injured (Tabs) or just not committed (Lobb). It's chips into the table time.
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i'll let the folks over at Freo know your ideas and hopefully they can get back to us soon.
 
gungho said:
Tabs will be 30 next year. Over a 10 year career he has averaged 12 games a year and 1.4 goals a game. Yes, he's a good AFL player, but he's not consistent enough (in fitness or form) to warrant stopping the progress of a hungry 20-23 year old forward. (that's my point).
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In 2018 & 19 they were fractures rather than soft tissue injuries though. What's Alex Pearce played? About 80 games over about 8 seasons. It's a big if, I know, but if Tabs is fit and firing, he'll play. Plenty of 30+ aged forwards going around. If he's definitely cooked, sure... but I'm not convinced he is yet, so too soon to put him on the scrapheap. In any case, Treacy and Amiss need development and aren't nearly ready to play as a No 1 forward. I'd have them learning their craft while Tabs or Lobb are taking the best opposition defender.

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hoss said:
In 2018 & 19 they were fractures rather than soft tissue injuries though. What's Alex Pearce played? About 80 games over about 8 seasons. It's a big if, I know, but if Tabs is fit and firing, he'll play. Plenty of 30+ aged forwards going around. If he's definitely cooked, sure... but I'm not convinced he is yet, so too soon to put him on the scrapheap. In any case, Treacy and Amiss need development and aren't nearly ready to play as a No 1 forward. I'd have them learning their craft while Tabs or Lobb are taking the best opposition defender.

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Pearce is 2 years younger, has had more consistent form (when playing) and has been a captain - all factors you have to weigh up. Treacy and Amiss were the only 2 key forwards against North last year and we did allright. I'd back them in (with the proviso that we get 1 more really good talent in the 22 - 25 year old range to back them up)
 
gungho said:
My main point is to trade Lobb (which the Dockers head haunchos have stated they are not going to do), forget Tabs (He's a pretty good player but just not seeing him as a future premiership player), get a young gun (Georgiadies who is unproven but worth a punt) and select Treacy, Amiss and that young gun (hopefully Georgiadies) from here on.
We've backed in the youth for all other parts of the ground and it's worked will, so now lets do it with the forward line.
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Or, and hear me out here, we maybe not trade the farm for a guy that will probably be a B grader?
Amiss and Treacy are clearly our best young key forwards, and keeping Lobb gives those 2 another year to earn AFL games. We shouldn't be gifting anyone games.
 
gungho said:
Pearce is 2 years younger, has had more consistent form (when playing) and has been a captain - all factors you have to weigh up. Treacy and Amiss were the only 2 key forwards against North last year and we did allright. I'd back them in (with the proviso that we get 1 more really good talent in the 22 - 25 year old range to back them up)
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You seriously using one solo game against North, who finished last on the ladder, in a game where we won by 90+ as an example that Amiss and Treacy are ready to spearhead our forward line from Round One onwards?

Where are we getting this young gun forward with our lack of draft picks from though? Georgiadies, the guy who isn't even best 22 at Port despite them being desperate for another forward all season?

Ps - Treacy was good in the first quarter and useless in the next 3 quarters, so not really a great example.

If Lobb goes, Tabs is easily our best forward next year and Amiss's development will benefit enormously from Tabs taking the best defender
 
gungho said:
Let's piss of Tabs and Lobb (well, keep Tabs but as depth) and go all out for Georgiadies.
Out future key forwards for the next 10 years will be Amiss, Treacy and Georgiadies. I'm sick of these guys that are always injured (Tabs) or just not committed (Lobb). It's chips into the table time.
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A bit to gung-ho for my liking gungho .
 
gungho said:
Tabs will be 30 next year. Over a 10 year career he has averaged 12 games a year and 1.4 goals a game. Yes, he's a good AFL player, but he's not consistent enough (in fitness or form) to warrant stopping the progress of a hungry 20-23 year old forward. (that's my point).
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A fully fit Taberner and Lobb would of been great for Freo. It's a pity both are 30 years old.

If both were 24-26 years old, I would of been confident for the next 5 years.

Losing Lobb will suck.

I think a 30-35 goal a season tall forward/ ruck is more of a priority than getting another 30-40 goal a season Taberner type.

I think and I am confident that either Traecy or Amiss can be that next Taberner type than can handle a heavy tag up forward and still kick 30-40 goals a season.

Walters is 32 years old next season. Very likely that 2023 will be his final season. But we got other small forwards that can kick goals in Frederick, Schulz and Switkowski.

And you got other outside mids like Clark, Coyler and Henry that kicks the occasional goal
 
gungho said:
Let's piss of Tabs and Lobb (well, keep Tabs but as depth) and go all out for Georgiadies.
Out future key forwards for the next 10 years will be Amiss, Treacy and Georgiadies. I'm sick of these guys that are always injured (Tabs) or just not committed (Lobb). It's chips into the table time.
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oooooiiiiii

I know we're all friends here...........but let's keep it that way!
 
Shannon Neale and JVR for their age are doing well. Around 30 goals in the
VFL.
JVR could also play down back.
Neale is that forward/ruck.
We could do worse. Logan will take over from Buddy.
 
mike91 said:
You seriously using one solo game against North, who finished last on the ladder, in a game where we won by 90+ as an example that Amiss and Treacy are ready to spearhead our forward line from Round One onwards?

Where are we getting this young gun forward with our lack of draft picks from though? Georgiadies, the guy who isn't even best 22 at Port despite them being desperate for another forward all season?

Ps - Treacy was good in the first quarter and useless in the next 3 quarters, so not really a great example.

If Lobb goes, Tabs is easily our best forward next year and Amiss's development will benefit enormously from Tabs taking the best defender
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You could make the same argument at the end of 2021 that it would be ludicrous to drop Wilson for Walker. It's good to be ahead of the curve in the AFL - otherwise development in stifled. Georgiadies finished the season well last year, and kicked 32 goals in his second year in the AFL - not bad at all for a young forward. If he was at the Dockers he'd definitely be best 22 for 2023.
 
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