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#51
Re: Re: Same as last week

Originally posted by macca23
That's because they actually move their HF line up around centre and even further back and virtually play with 3 forwards.

When they do a quick break, they're kicking to a focal point such as Lloyd, Lynch, Gherig etc who only have to beat their man in a 1 on 1 basis.

Conversely we play 3 close to goal, and push our HF line deep, and as a result crowd our own forwards.

It's not hard to work out which method is better!!
Yes, but you have to have the strong KPP, who can beat their opponents one on one. We don't - our KPP are leading types.
 

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#52
Originally posted by Jerome

Unfortunatley we are still playing dumb football - dumb match ups, dumb game plan and some dumb decision making and use of the ball.

We havent learnt from our mistakes in previous round and this is putting us under more pressure than we need to be under. Change the game plan and straighten them up!!

Playing Kenny at CHB while Riewoldt ran loose in the first half was nuts. Basset on The Mullet was a disaster waiting to happen.

We have several players out of form but not too many fit and inform in the SANFL to challenge them. In particular we do not have enough key backmen pushing for selection - but there is a bit more depth coming thru for our forward options.

Hentschell actually beat Reiwoldt in the first half, Basset, well who else could we have played, maybe Hudson, but it was going to show us up somewhere else.
Your comment about lack of Key Backmen pushing up is probably the answer to the basset question.
Our spine overall is very weak, and its tough therefore to play the long direct footy style of Brisbane. M. Stevens absense is really hurting us.
 
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#53
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Listening to Gary's press conference, one gets the feeling that Bock and Sarge will come in next week.
With so many first gamers, now starting to be played, one could suggest the club has started the rebuilding phase, realising a premiership this year is beyond us.

Still our lack of players with some physicality and muscle, must be a focus for our recruiting dept. All our tall players are under weight. Reminds me of the Bulldogs players.
 
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#54
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Will Hart be ready for next week, as it is a Friday night game??

Agree that the Hound & Stevens should return to Norwood. The Hound to find some form & Stevo to learn how to kick.

Must stretch the Tiger's defence next week with the return of Sarge.

Need to quell the influence of Sugar, Coughlin & Brown.
Stevens wont be dropped on last nights game, particularly if Basset is injured. We need the height.
Saw the tigers the last couple of weeks live, and if you think our gameplan is bad, should cop Richmonds. If we can't beat them ( and I think we will ) then the rot will really start to set in, and watch the fall-out.
 
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#55
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I reckon Bassett will miss a couple with an ankle injury and I think its time for Stevens to go back to Magpies and get some consistency to his game.

I think next week our midfield MUST win the battle. I think Tigers have better midfield than us ATM. Johnson will kill us. I would play Stenglein on either Sugar or Coughlan. Brown is the one I can't think of a good match up for.:(
Stenglein can quell Sugar in open play, without question, But in the centre square where the game is won and lost, Sugar will be too smart and Too quick with his disposal.
Coughlans been very ordinary of late, The player who is cutting teams apart and is a real danger is Krakouer, he and Brown in the Midfield and resting down forward.
Would you sacrifice Edwards attacking game to play him on Brown?.
Cant think of a matchup for Krakouer, possibly stiffy, but once again how defensive do you go.
 
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#57
Originally posted by ComicStoreGuy
Scuback needs more game time, looked good when he had the ball. He moved it quickly and hit a couple of targets. Well that's what I thought from a saints perspective.
He does look good.
Probably should go back to the SANFL for a full game, but will probably stay in the sise, as our next game is on the fast Telsta surface, and we do not have a quick side.
 

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#58
Time for James Fantasia to start work

I think James is going to have to put in a big effort this year to find us some decent draft pics or trades.

There will be at least 4 spots up with the loss of
Carey
Burns
Smart
possibly Bassett

But I am not sure what we should be after
We need a new good midfielder, ruckman, forward and backman
so its a big ask

Maybe one proven player and 3 new pics as we need to develop a new team whilst we still have the experience of mcleod, roo, clark, hart etc to guide them in their first few years
 

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#59
Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Hentschell actually beat Reiwoldt in the first half, Basset, well who else could we have played, maybe Hudson, but it was going to show us up somewhere else.
Your comment about lack of Key Backmen pushing up is probably the answer to the basset question.
Our spine overall is very weak, and its tough therefore to play the long direct footy style of Brisbane. M. Stevens absense is really hurting us.
I would'nt say Trent beat him. Did an OK job, but Riewoldt slipped away from Trent a few times.

I have said for years that our biggest problem is full back and we have done nothing to change it. Lack of a genuine big, strong, quick, smart bloke at FB has been costing us games for years. We havent covered the loss of Caven at all.
 

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#60
Originally posted by Jerome
I would'nt say Trent beat him. Did an OK job, but Riewoldt slipped away from Trent a few times.

I have said for years that our biggest problem is full back and we have done nothing to change it. Lack of a genuine big, strong, quick, smart bloke at FB has been costing us games for years. We havent covered the loss of Caven at all.
I thought Hentschel done a fair job on Riewoldt when he was on him & again when switched onto Kossi??? & what i like about young Trent since i have been converted is the way he refuses to panic when in possession of the ball.

A better effort from the Crows this week & at least the intensity was there but oh for a fit Mark Stevens at chf !!!

Saint Kilda fully deserved their win & with a spine like they have will challenge the Lions & Paps in the finals.
 

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Hentschel's brain suddenly fades as soon as he gets on the other side of the centre line though...when he got the ball there in the last quarter he had so much 'time' that he managed to let two distant Saints players get to him and tackle him.
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Hentschell - continues to improve - stiffy your support was well warranted
Thanks mate. The kid has done everything asked of him. He has been a shining light in defence for us and its no wonder a number of AFL clubs asked us to trade him during last year's trading period. He will be one hell of a player in a few years time.

Jerricho - Liked his demeanor, has a determined look on his face from when he ran onto the ground, which was great to see from a 1st gamer. Not overawed, yes took sometime to get the pace of the game - but gee he looked good.
He looked good didn't he. I thought he might be a bit out of his depth and to be honest I expected him to struggle but to the kid's credit he did a very good job. If we could only deliver the ball to him a bit better, in front of him and to his advantage side, he would kick an absolute bag from FF.
 

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Sarge has to get back if he has pulled up OK from Friday's game against Norwood.

Sarge had 18 possesions, 8 marks and kicked 1.2. A good return from Sarge. If he can give us that at CHF on Friday against Richmond we are just about certainties to win.
 

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Perrie is our Messiah. He will dominate the competition from sheer anger at being dropped, and will soon become the best ever CHF to have played the game.

I predict 22 possessions, 15 marks and 8 goals.
 

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The best thing to come out from yesterday's game was that for a long long time your best tall backs were Smart and Hart. Now they are McGregor and Hentschell.
That is a big thing.
 

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#67
Originally posted by PAfolwr
The best thing to come out from yesterday's game was that for a long long time your best tall backs were Smart and Hart. Now they are McGregor and Hentschell.
That is a big thing.
I think that is a big thing and a big positive considering those 2 boys are long term players. Kenny has already established himself as our #1 ruckman and Hentschel is fast becoming our shining light this year. Hart still has a couple of years left of footy left in him but Smart is finished.

What did you think of Hentschel's game and Jericho's debut??????
 
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Originally posted by Jerome
I would'nt say Trent beat him. Did an OK job, but Riewoldt slipped away from Trent a few times.

I have said for years that our biggest problem is full back and we have done nothing to change it. Lack of a genuine big, strong, quick, smart bloke at FB has been costing us games for years. We havent covered the loss of Caven at all.
The "experts" had a debate, saying if you could have the pick of any player in the league, who would you pick.
Admittedly this was a couple of years ago, but the answer was Johnathon Hay, because the consensus was, it was one of the most important positions in any successful team, and the hardest to replace.
Look at Mathews and Brisbane, getting Mal Michael up in a trade - wonder why?
Given Basset is essentially a flanker, he has done a wonderful job, however Adelaide ahve never had a great FB, and it's time we got one.

Hentschell has the potential to be a very good CHB, better than Mcgregor, and in the mould f Caven.
If he keeps progressing, we may never see him move to the forward lines, as we once thought.
 
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#69
Originally posted by Stiffy_18

He looked good didn't he. I thought he might be a bit out of his depth and to be honest I expected him to struggle but to the kid's credit he did a very good job. If we could only deliver the ball to him a bit better, in front of him and to his advantage side, he would kick an absolute bag from FF.
To quote Malcom Blight, you don't go much on first games, can be fantastic, or can be like Hetschells. But you would have to think the way he attacked the footy, and the self confidence, that with a bit more weight, he could be very good. Could play in a number of positions, including FF, bit early I think to pencil him in for one posi.
 

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I think it's pretty early to make a claim like that.

Cornes lacks muscle and thus on the chunkier CHFs may struggle. He also has a tendency to drift out of the game for periods.

While he could be a good CHB, Leppitsch is currently much better, Luke McPharlin is probably also ahead, McGregor is maybe not equal in marking capacity, but otherwise is as good, Scott Lucas when he plays there is probably better, Chris Grant in form is streets ahead, Gaspar in form is also probably better, Ben Graham is better.

Cornes has a lot of competition. He is a long way down the line of 'greats'.
 
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