Fourth Test team

[Art Vandelay_]

What of him?

I’ll excuse you. The forum upgrade has erased all pre update tweets.
Just JL being a buffoon

 

[jackster83]

1 Harris
2 Khawaja
3 Marsh
4 Handscomb
5 Head
6 Labuschagne

Got a bad feeling this is going to be a thing.

That is the longest tail in cricket history.

 

[Scotland]

I’ll excuse you. The forum upgrade has erased all pre update tweets.
Just JL being a buffoon

The quote said it had a tweet in it but nothing showed up. JL has only been in the job for 5 minutes.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The quote said it had a tweet in it but nothing showed up. JL has only been in the job for 5 minutes.

Yes, and the forum purge makes that tweet invisible now.
Those who saw it seemed to agree it was a daft comment and Geeves was bang on

 

[Scotland]

That is the longest tail in cricket history.

If that's the 6 we're going with then I'd open with Harris and Marsh and bat Khawaja at 3. If Marsh nicks one and we're 1/0 then I have more faith in Khawaja coming in at 3 than if you reverse the scenario.

Haven't seen enough of Labuschagne to know what he's good at exactly but would be tempted to bat Handscomb at 6 seeing as he's apparently a spin specialist.

 

[Scotland]

Yes, and the forum purge makes that tweet invisible now.
Those who saw it seemed to agree it was a daft comment and Geeves was bang on

Yeah I have no idea what said daft comment was.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

That is the longest tail in cricket history.

Awful, isn't it?

I remember when Warne retired, I used to be on the BBC chat boards and Aus fans were boasting about how many leg-spin bowlers were coming through, which always sounded weird to me, like a player like that was automatically replaceable. Feels like that now. We've got Smith or we've got diddly squat.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Worst case scenario...
Finch
Usman
Marsh
Head
Marsh
Labashagne
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood
Lyon

So that's probably how it will go.

What is SHOULD be based on this squad on a turning SCG deck is...

Harris
Usman
S Marsh
Handscomb (Can at least play spin more comfortably than a few others)
Head
Labashagne (doubt he would be in the squad if he wasn't being picked. Although i'd be happier batting Finchy here instead and just letting him and Head throw a few down as relief)
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

 

[Borisdog]

True. Warner is a dickhead but has been hung out to dry in the whole saga. Rare that you'd hear a player say 'yeah Dave told me to do it'. Normally they play a straight bat. From day 1 it's pretty much been Bancroft did it, it was Warner's idea, Smith didn't stop it. Smith is probably filthy with Warner for costing him a year of his career when he was absolutely flying.

If CA decide to move on from Warner he'll just spend the next 5 years as a T20 gun for hire and make millions. He'll be OK. But still a dickhead.

Warner cost Smith a year of his career. Are you ****ing serious?

Smith could've stopped this shit stone dead. And chose not to.

The only person who cost Smith a year of his career is Smith. And I have not a shred of doubt that Smith 100% knows that.

 

[Scotland]

Awful, isn't it?

I remember when Warne retired, I used to be on the BBC chat boards and Aus fans were boasting about how many leg-spin bowlers were coming through, which always sounded weird to me, like a player like that was automatically replaceable. Feels like that now. We've got Smith or we've got diddly squat.

Warne was the ultimate once in a lifetime player. Anyone who thought he'd be easily replaced had NFI. We've had a couple of good leggies ever and he is miles ahead of all of them.

Batsmen and quicks are different. Hazlewood and Stuart Clark are poor man's Glenn McGraths, but they also form(ed) part of pace attacks. Starc, Cummins, Haze is a pretty good pace trio even if none are likely to make our all time test XI. Ricky Ponting is the best batsman I've seen in our test XI, but he was always one of 6. I'd take Langer, Hayden, Martyn, Hussey, Clarke plus Khawaja at 3 rather than Ponting and the rest of our current top 6.

 

[Scotland]

Warner cost Smith a year of his career. Are you ******* serious?

Smith could've stopped this shit stone dead. And chose not to.

The only person who cost Smith a year of his career is Smith. And I have not a shred of doubt that Smith 100% knows that.

Smith has owned up to not being strong enough but the fact remains if Warner doesn't do it Smith doesn't have to stop him doing it. They're all guilty in different ways.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Smith has owned up to not being strong enough but the fact remains if Warner doesn't do it Smith doesn't have to stop him doing it. They're all guilty in different ways.

It's amazing isn't it? I mean, how much strength does it take to say, "Put the sandpaper away son, you won't be needing that". Not real difficult I wouldn't have thought.

 

[Borisdog]

Smith has owned up to not being strong enough but the fact remains if Warner doesn't do it Smith doesn't have to stop him doing it. They're all guilty in different ways.

My oath they're all guilty - never said they weren't.

Smith made a conscious choice, based on the information he had.

I agree that if Warner does nothing the Smith doesn't need to do anything.

But Warner did do something, didn't he. And AFTER Smith had the oil. And Smith made the 100% wrong leadership decision and cost HIMSELF a year off.

He CHOSE his fate.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yeah I have no idea what said daft comment was.

Cool. Search Brett Geeves on twitter and you’ll find it

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

1 Harris
2 Khawaja
3 Marsh
4 Handscomb
5 Head
6 Labuschagne

Got a bad feeling this is going to be a thing.

I think your overlooking the importance of having a spare medium pacer and a spare spinner.
1 Harris
2 Khawaja
3 S Marsh
4 M Marsh
5 Head
6 Labuschagne
You know they would

 

[MC Bad Genius]

I know it's a bit off topic, but those saying Warner won't come back into the side have rocks in their head. He averages 48.20 at the highest level with 21 hundreds. Meanwhile our entire side only manage 4 hundreds in 2018. FOUR!!!

The players apparently keeping him out are Renshaw (avg 37.82), Harris (avg 35.20) and Bancroft (avg 38.35). And that's their averages at First Class level! Warner gets 10 runs per innings more in Tests than they do in the Shield. And he won't come back into the Test side? Spare me.

He might not be likeable, but hell definitely be back.

 

[eth-dog]

I know it's a bit off topic, but those saying Warner won't come back into the side have rocks in their head. He averages 48.20 at the highest level with 21 hundreds. Meanwhile our entire side only manage 4 hundreds in 2018. FOUR!!!

The players apparently keeping him out are Renshaw (avg 37.82), Harris (avg 35.20) and Bancroft (avg 38.35). And that's their averages at First Class level! Warner gets 10 runs per innings more in Tests than they do in the Shield. And he won't come back into the Test side? Spare me.

He might not be likeable, but hell definitely be back.

David Warner in Australia isn't the same one in England. Averages 37, has no centuries and will be nearly 33 by the end of the Ashes

 

[hawkman]

That is the longest tail in cricket history.

Where would you say it starts? Number 3 with Marsh?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

David Warner in Australia isn't the same one in England. Averages 37, has no centuries and will be nearly 33 by the end of the Ashes

I’d take 37 the way our batting is going

 

[archibald]

Was interesting listening to Peter Lalor on TGC. Stated he had information that Hilton Cartwright was only picked in the test side a couple of years ago to 'Give Mitch a kick up the backside' and they had always planned to go back to Mitch regardless of how well Cartwright did.

So basically screwing with someones career to motivate someone they were desperate to succeed.

 

[bird_man]

Righto, so this is how we will likely go in tomorrow, Marsh and Finch dropped.

Khawaja
Harris
Marsh
Handscomb
Head
Labuschagne
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Not huge on the Labuschagne selection, but if we are dead set on an all rounder I suppose it is a good thing we are at least giving someone else a chance? Hope he proves me wrong and scores some runs and takes some wickets.

 

[bird_man]

Was interesting listening to Peter Lalor on TGC. Stated he had information that Hilton Cartwright was only picked in the test side a couple of years ago to 'Give Mitch a kick up the backside' and they had always planned to go back to Mitch regardless of how well Cartwright did.

So basically screwing with someones career to motivate someone they were desperate to succeed.

And Stoinis was told recently to stick with the short form because Mitch was the preferred option at test level. Seems a strange way to go about it all to me

 

[HLM*]

I know it's a bit off topic, but those saying Warner won't come back into the side have rocks in their head. He averages 48.20 at the highest level with 21 hundreds. Meanwhile our entire side only manage 4 hundreds in 2018. FOUR!!!

The players apparently keeping him out are Renshaw (avg 37.82), Harris (avg 35.20) and Bancroft (avg 38.35). And that's their averages at First Class level! Warner gets 10 runs per innings more in Tests than they do in the Shield. And he won't come back into the Test side? Spare me.

He might not be likeable, but hell definitely be back.

No they don’t. In case you live under a rock, Cricket Australia launched a review into the culture of our national sides and came out with 42 recommendations to fix it. Now more than ever does the way players conduct themselves off the field effect their selection into these sides. Hell, it’s even part of the criteria they judge on when awarding the Alan Border medal now.

Like I have said, Langer has emphasised on creating a new and improved culture around our national set up. If Warner’s inclusion into the squad doesn’t sit well with the current side Langer won’t risk jeopardising the culture he’s manifested.

Cricket Australia obviously don’t have a problem with losing in the short term in order to gain in the long term (e.g banning warner and smith in the first place).

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Was interesting listening to Peter Lalor on TGC. Stated he had information that Hilton Cartwright was only picked in the test side a couple of years ago to 'Give Mitch a kick up the backside' and they had always planned to go back to Mitch regardless of how well Cartwright did.

So basically screwing with someones career to motivate someone they were desperate to succeed.

If that’s true, that’s completely ****ed.
Firstly, as you point out, you’re screwing with some kids head.
Secondly, it’s completely devaluing the baggy green.
Disgraceful

 

[Kram]

Cool. Search Brett Geeves on twitter and you’ll find it

Geeves is a bitter no-hoper. A hero of yours naturally?