Fourth Test team

[TommyD13]

People keep talking like Renshaw should be a lock and that he has been hard done by. He has a Test average of 33, one hundred in 20 innings, and some suspect Shield form at the worst possible time. He has great potential, but non-selection would hardly qualify as a travesty.

I persoanlly dont have him as a lock and dont have him in my squad at all. Just believe in a hypothetical situation, he deserves it more than Labuschagne.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Ooft. Harris has done well but dropping down Finchy after a good start? I'm not sure unless you push Renshaw to 1st drop.

My rolling test team is

Finch
Renshaw
Smarsh - I guess
Head
Labuschange
Mitch Marsh
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
Tremain - 12th man.

I reckon though, Cartwright, Patterson and Wade are good chances. Harris is a chance if Renshaw continues to post low scores.

Finch often bats down the order Victoria. Having a number of openers in the side thought Finch was the one to put at 4. We don't have alot of bats to choose from so i've tried to look at form although Renshaw hasn't exactly stuck it since though. Had a great winter though so i've stuck with him. I've tried to go with blokes who will keep making runs rather than those who might be inconsistent and fragile but choices aren't great.

The beauty of picking a "rolling team" is that I can change my mind 14 times before the First Test...lol.

 

[Jimthegreat]

I persoanlly dont have him as a lock and dont have him in my squad at all. Just believe in a hypothetical situation, he deserves it more than Labuschagne.

I have Labuschgne replacing Mitch Marsh. He batted ok the the 2nd Test but more than anything his leg spinners were good so he replaces Marsh as the as the batting 5th bowler.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Labuschagne's Recent History
vs South Australia- 3 and 28
vs Pakistan- 25 and 43
vs Pakistan- 0 and 13
vs Pakistan A- 39*
vs India A- 0 and 0
vs India A- 60 and 37
vs Tasmania (Last season's Final)- 32 and 5*
Take out the 2 not outs, he has one fifty in his 11 last digs, including three ducks. Overall he averages 33 in FC cricket. Should never have been close to selection in the first place. Got picked and did okay. Was told spots up for grabs for the home summer. Went back and made scores of 3 and 28. In my rolling team this does not justify selection in any way. Nothing against him, if he goes out and gets a hundred and a few good scores hell find himself back in. If he doesnt he wont. Simple.

They picked him in the Test side though and had a decent 2nd Test, was actually our best batsman in that Test, plus he bowled well too, which was a bonus. Would've had a much better Test barring the brain fade.

 

[qman]

I have a feeling it may be:

Harris
Finch
Head
Labuschagne
Wade
Marsh
Paine (c, +)
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

I agree with you about Wade, he's good enough to play as a specialist bat. Without having to worry about keeping, he can do better with the bat than he did last stint. It's such a shit team now, surely he's good enough. He will be more consistent than the other bums currently in the team.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Renshaw is a tough one, he is easily one of our most promising young batsmen and getting games in to him should be a priority. His lack of runs leading in to the home summer of cricket for the second straight year makes it tough though. One thing i will say though is our selectors have given some players all the time in the world to perform despite being constantly let down by them, yet they will look for reasons not to pick other players.

I think Renshaw should be picked, pick for the future because we know he has talent and we know he can perform at test level. No one else around deserving of that spot.

Give Maxwell a chance! He deserves to be in this test team but CA has not only refused to pick him but they have screwed him around to not allow him to get runs in the longer format of the game to earn a spot back in the team.

M Marsh will be in the team so i am not even going to think about an 11 without him in it. HE CAN NOT BAT IN THE TOP 5 THOUGH! If he is in the 11 he has to be batting at 6.

To be honest i am just excited to see out bowling attack back on the field together again. Those 4 together are worth going to watch alone.

1. Renshaw
2. Finch
3. Khawaja (if fit)
4. Ferguson/Patterson
5. Maxwell
6. M Marsh (No chance of missing out)
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Lyon
11. Hazlewood

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Marsh is in the side he has to be bowling 12 overs minimum an innings- his batting is nowhere near test quality, it's his bowling that can be okay on occasions. Still would rather him nowhere near the side but the gnome will pick the spud!

 

[FRUMPY]

If Marsh is in the side he has to be bowling 12 overs minimum an innings- his batting is nowhere near test quality, it's his bowling that can be okay on occasions. Still would rather him nowhere near the side but the gnome will pick the spud!

This is the annoying part, picked as an all-rounder yet so many times doesn't bowl or might get 2 or 3 overs. Use him if he is in as an all rounder or don't pick him.

 

[FRUMPY]

I see S Marsh made some runs in the last shield game, pencil him in at no.3 for the summer then

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I see S Marsh made some runs in the last shield game, pencil him in at no.3 for the summer then

India love this idea lol

 

[full on the fence]

Renshaw / Harris - Whoever is in best form when the Test come around
Finch
Khawaja - Ferguson if he's not fit
S Marsh
Head
Maxwell or Stoinis ?? Depending on form

 

[bird_man]

Renshaw's last 4 FC innings have been 0, 19, 3 and 0

Harris has averaged 48.37 since he moved states at the start of the 2016/17 season and is coming off a 250*

You would think Renshaw would need to make runs if he is any chance surely?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Renshaw's last 4 FC innings have been 0, 19, 3 and 0

Harris has averaged 48.37 since he moved states at the start of the 2016/17 season and is coming off a 250*

You would think Renshaw would need to make runs if he is any chance surely?

Needs runs but if he does we can surely play both with Finch moving to where he normally batsmfor Victoria- middle order. The less Marsh spuds the better

 

[Kyptastic]

The worst part for Renshaw is that from about January to July he was arguably the most inform first class cricketer on the planet, he bossed it in the later half of the Shield and the first half of the County Championship. He's lost form at exactly the wrong time.

 

[JackOutback]

I see S Marsh made some runs in the last shield game, pencil him in at no.3 for the summer then

Put him in at 5 and he’ll make some runs. Not denying he is inconsistent but he isn’t helped by the selectors using him to plug whatever gap they have at the time.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Put him in at 5 and he’ll make some runs. Not denying he is inconsistent but he isn’t helped by the selectors using him to plug whatever gap they have at the time.

As long as the other one isn’t at 6! Can deal with 1 (although ideally we'd move on from both) but not two. Rather give a debut to a Jake Lehmann or someone like that

 

[full on the fence]

The worst part for Renshaw is that from about January to July he was arguably the most inform first class cricketer on the planet, he bossed it in the later half of the Shield and the first half of the County Championship. He's lost form at exactly the wrong time.

He did the same last year as well, when they went for Bandcroft

 

[bird_man]

Put him in at 5 and he’ll make some runs. Not denying he is inconsistent but he isn’t helped by the selectors using him to plug whatever gap they have at the time.

Oh come off it, you can't use the fact he's gone for 5 to 4 as an excuse for his form.

Maybe he's been thrown around the batting order over his because he's often being dropped and brought back in.

 

[JackOutback]

Oh come off it, you can't use the fact he's gone for 5 to 4 as an excuse for his form.

Maybe he's been thrown around the batting order over his because he's often being dropped and brought back in.

Except he’s only gone to 4 once or twice; he’s usually pushed up to open or bat at 3 despite not being suited to these positions. One only has to look at the number of times he’s batted in each position to see he’s been jerked around. And one only has to see his averages in each position to know that he excels at one.

 

[bird_man]

Except he’s only gone to 4 once or twice; he’s usually pushed up to open or bat at 3 despite not being suited to these positions. One only has to look at the number of times he’s batted in each position to see he’s been jerked around. And one only has to see his averages in each position to know that he excels at one.

He's batted at 4 for 12 innings, same as 3.

He started his career batting at 3, made a century on debut, but was dropped after poor form. Other times he came into the side only as a replacement for an injured player. Hard to shuffle the batting line up around a guy just coming into the side. If he was able to play consistent cricket he might be able to hold onto a batting position.

His highest average is actually batting at 6.

I think you are drawing a long bow blaming the selectors (or the captain) for his poor form because of where he bats. As far as I can recall he's mostly batted at 3 or 4 for WA. If he was able to play consistent cricket he might be able to hold onto a batting position.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Renshaw is a tough one, he is easily one of our most promising young batsmen and getting games in to him should be a priority.

Its not footy, we're not building for a premiership window.

If you're good enough you're old enough. And if you're good enough you're young enough. Right now, on form, (at least on numbers, I haven't seen him bat this summer so maybe just bad luck) he's not top six batsmen and he's running out of time to get back there.

Test selection is about picking to win, not picking for three years time.
In that way, its easier than ODI selection which is about the world Cup, or T20I selection which is about marketability.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Its not footy, we're not building for a premiership window.

If you're good enough you're old enough. And if you're good enough you're young enough. Right now, on form, (at least on numbers, I haven't seen him bat this summer so maybe just bad luck) he's not top six batsmen and he's running out of time to get back there.

Test selection is about picking to win, not picking for three years time.
In that way, its easier than ODI selection which is about the world Cup, or T20I selection which is about marketability.

Explain the Marsh spud selection then? Go on this will be fun. Renshaw>>>>>>>spud

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Its not footy, we're not building for a premiership window.

If you're good enough you're old enough. And if you're good enough you're young enough. Right now, on form, (at least on numbers, I haven't seen him bat this summer so maybe just bad luck) he's not top six batsmen and he's running out of time to get back there.

Test selection is about picking to win, not picking for three years time.
In that way, its easier than ODI selection which is about the world Cup, or T20I selection which is about marketability.

Form in the past month or two he absolutely isn't in our top 6 batsman. Form over the last 12 months he absolutely is, was not that long ago that he was close to the best domestic player in the world. My point on his age was not about building for a premiership window, it's about potential to improve.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Explain the Marsh spud selection then? Go on this will be fun. Renshaw>>>>>>>spud

I'm not sure I said Marsh should be playing. I wouldn't be ruling him out due to age, but I also wouldn't be ruling him in on exposed form.

And I owe an apology, Renshaw had a better County season than I thought. That said, I still think he needs Shield runs, and plenty of them to be under consideration.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'm not sure I said Marsh should be playing. I wouldn't be ruling him out due to age, but I also wouldn't be ruling him in on exposed form.

And I owe an apology, Renshaw had a better County season than I thought. That said, I still think he needs Shield runs, and plenty of them to be under consideration.

Henshaw's recent form is better than Mitch and SMarsh! Both the spud brothers have shown to be utter tripe!