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Foxtel Cup facing the chop

Discussion in 'League Championship Cup' started by mighty tiges, Nov 14, 2014.

Put it out there
  1. mighty tiges

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    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/foxtel-cup-faces-the-chop

    Disappointing if true.

    The competition had significant potential in the long-term if it was structured and promoted the right way. Sadly it hasn't been such as playing games at large empty neutral AFL stadiums rather than at the home grounds of these state league clubs where locals could easily attend not being far from their homes. If the AFL had waited until 2016 then it could have looked to organise an earlier season start (early March) of state league comps. as well as the AFL and then have designated 'bye' weekends in the comps during which the Foxtel Cup could be played. Have more state league teams as well including reserve AFL sides which would attract more public interest. Earlier rounds could be knockout games played between clubs in the same league (they could even be normal league matches that double up as Foxtel Cup games so there's not more workload on the players) and then have cross over inter-league matches for the quarter finals, semi finals and Grand Final.
     

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    The four-year Foxtel Cup experiment is over, with the national knockout competition axed for next year.

    The WA Football Commission confirmed yesterday that host broadcaster Foxtel had pulled out of the competition

    WAFC chief executive Gary Walton said Foxtel was putting its money into other areas.

    It is understood Foxtel's spending will instead go towards alternative football content, including a second series of reality television program The Recruit.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/25490773/axe-falls-on-foxtel-cup/

    The article says Subiaco and Norwood are talking about starting an annual "clash of the premiers" match in March pitting the WAFL and SANFL premiers against each other. Norwood have approached McGuire Media to discuss broadcasting the match and getting Foxtel or Channel 7 interested and sorting out how it can be done commercially to at least break even. The first game if it goes ahead would be played in South Australia.
     
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    The Foxtel Cup should have been a pre-season competition running parallel with the NAB Challenge, as well as being played on state league grounds under lights.

    Why play trial matches when teams can get real match fitness in full-on game conditions with a prize on offer?

    And yes I'm sure most of the clubs don't have night lights, but there are plenty of grounds in each state that do so it shouldn't be impossible.
     
  6. Kram

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    Not surprising really.
     
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    Can't say I really care TBH, and I don't think too many of the clubs involved really did, either.
     
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    Should have played them as curtain raisers before AFL matches. Missed a great chance there.
     
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    So does this mean the end of this board then?
     
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    Bump. Heard rumors it could be coming back...
     
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    They weren't even full length games so it was hard to take seriously.
     

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    I found them interesting.

    Nice to see how the various state league clubs stacked up against each other.
     
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    Agree. Either do it properly or don't do it at all.
     
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    To do it properly probably means it needs to be played outside the regular season, and then the grounds aren't available. And would players want to play an extra month? The SANFL sides in particular showed they would rather focus on their league than the extra cup.
     
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    Would CrocMedia be involved somewhere?
     
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    Haven't heard anything about it since mate.
     
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    If it was to make a return, I would like to see it played as a precursor to the premiership season instead of just trial games for the participants, run parallel to the JLT series and played on suburban grounds under lights.
     
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    should be a 32 club pre-season comp over 6 weeks (round 1 split over 2 weeks) from early Feb to mid March featuring AFL reserves sides (no veterans), top 3 stand alone sides (from previous year) from the NEAFL, VFL, SANFL and WAFL + NT Thunder and a TAS league rep side.
     
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    That time slot is gone to the womens game
     
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    this would trump it
     
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    I still think October, so the squads that played finals play the comp. 16 is fine though.
    Rules around AFL listed players might need to be looked at, or AFL reserves sides simply ineligible (personally, I don't think that is fair; and what about the few remaining VFL aligned terams). Not an issue for Tas or NT (should Thunder get a free pass, or have to qualify through NEAFL with NTFL premiers entered).

    VFL grand finalists + preliminary finalists
    SANFL top 4 after finals
    WAFL top 4 after finals
    NEAFL grand finalists
    TSL premiers
    NTFL premiers [not sure what happens with dual qualified players here if Thunder qualify through NEAFL]

    But getting sponsors, broadcasts, etc. AFLW, so far, works because it uses AFL branded clubs.

    This failed last time because virtually nobody cares about state leagues any more, a few stiull turn up in SA and a lesser extent WA but wat way down on when state leagues mattered to the general public; and being midweek during the season clubs saw it as very much a secondary comp. Playing it outside the season means weekends. Then again, on weekends Fox have other sport to show.
    Now that VFL, WAFL, SANFL are on commercial TV (+ Thunder midweek on SBS) there might be some chance of getting some coverage if played outside the normal season - but not against AFLW. I can't see anyone taking a punt on it.
     
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    The issue was that the AFL prevented clubs from playing at their own stadiums, and that they played it mid week

    If the AFL coordinated it so it was played on the "bye weeks" for the relevent teams, [particularly given that teams have 3-4 byes in most leagues.

    should be played at various teams grounds, not at empty stadiums.