Good. Could you please correct the inaccuracies Mopsy so that our analysis can proceed based on the facts.
Roast Francis Jackson
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Good. Could you please correct the inaccuracies Mopsy so that our analysis can proceed based on the facts.
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pin the thread, I have popcorn here waiting for a couple of posters
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Likewise. I too had some time with Francis sharing intel. He welcomed it at all times was my experience. That of course is different to exercising sound judgement, but I feel he was OK on that score, not brilliant, but not lousy like some lousy posters might try and articulate.
MR, I also know for a fact that whilst the Club's recruiting department was damn slim back in 2004, 2005 and 2006, they leant on a lot of people with local experiences like Mark Browning who was heavily involved in recruitment and still is in his current role as AFL Academies Manager - Queensland & NSW/ACT
No coincidence we have bid on a handful of Qld draftees. Francis is very well connected!
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Once a potato always a spud.
God, ok, I have just read through the whole thread. It is fair to say “Casino” Jackson has had his detractors over time. Some of those detractors seem to have softened their view given our ultimate premiership success in 2017 and 2019. But there are some who are sticking steadfastly to their dim view of him and would appear likely to go to their grave denouncing poor old Francis Jackson.
This is the summary of the arguments put by Jackson’s many critics on this thread as best I can recall after reading it through - I did not take written notes. It is important to say that this is just a combination of things his various detractors have contributed in denouncing him as opposed to a list of things that ALL of his detractors believe.
- He was responsible for the 2004 draft which was generally seen as a disaster for the club.(This one has already been corrected for being wrong of course.)
- He is overwhelmingly responsible for drafting Oakley-Nichols at 8 in 2005 despite being an unpaid part-time recruiter that year. Greg Miller wanted Travis Varcoe at 8.
- Greg Miller alone was responsible for the drafting of Riewoldt in 2006, Cotchin and Rance in 2007. It seems the detractors oddly enough concede credit to Jackson for Edwards in 2006. But Miller should take credit for the others despite Jackson being the Recruiting Manager and sole full time recruiter at the club.
- Jackson alone was responsible for the balance of the selections in 2006-2007.
- Jackson did not select Martin in 2009, Melbourne did that for him. Jackson would have taken Trengove over Martin. We should overlook that there were roughly 100 footballers drafted after Martin in that year, Melbourne apparently selected Martin for Jackson.
- Jackson did not select Rance at 18 in 2007, Terry Wallace did.
- Jackson resumed full responsibility for all drafting decisions 2008-2013 inclusive, with particular responsibility for Vickery, Post, McBean, Griffiths, Elton, Troy Taylor, Conca, Batchelor who are seen as failures.
- Better recruiting that occurred from 2014 was due to Luke Williams coming on board as a third full time Recruiting Officer at that time.
- Better recruiting from 2017 is due to Jackson being demoted.
- The club’s on field performance only improved once Jackson was demoted.
In summarising all of these arguments, you would be forgiven for thinking all of the recruits with positive outcomes are to be credited to Miller, Clarke and/or Williams, and all of the recruits with negative outcomes are solely down to Jackson.
I’m sure no one poster believes all that to be true though there are a couple who might be pretty comfortable claiming all of that is correct.
There are a few statements I am prepared to make before looking deeper at the actual recruiting performance during his time in charge. Those are:
- His retention as a Recruiting Officer by the club after the late 2016 review is a strong indication that insiders consider him a very competent recruiter. A lot of other people were purged at this time and so the club would not have hesitated to move Jackson on if he was not considered useful.
- It is unbalanced to the point of being obviously wrong to slate all the hits to other people and all the misses to Jackson.
- It appears palpably wrong to say the club’s recruiting has been incompetent for the whole of Jackson’s reign as Recruiting Manager, because so many players recruited during that period played in the club’s most recent two premierships.
- It makes sense the recruiting department has worked better as time has passed, but this does not have to be due to any incompetence on Jackson’s part. Jackson was full time on his own 06-08, two other ft recruiters added to him from 09-13, a fourth ft recruiter was added for 14-onwards, and a full review of the recruiting department reshuffled people into more suitable roles from 2017-onwards. All staff once appointed appear to have been retained, and it would also make sense they would become better in their roles the longer they are in those roles.
- It does not make sense that Jackson is an egomaniac as suggested by some. Why would he hang around to happily work under Clarke from 2017 onwards if this was the case?
I stand to be corrected and am open to debate on any of these statements. But in the near future I will also try to do some comprehensive comparisons with other clubs during the period in question. I have already compared us to the highly successful Hawks over this period on the Chris Scott thread and I believe the comparison came out favourably to Richmond if anything even after adjusting for the Tigers’ superior array of picks over the period.
This is the summary of the arguments put by Jackson’s many critics on this thread as best I can recall after reading it through - I did not take written notes. It is important to say that this is just a combination of things his various detractors have contributed in denouncing him as opposed to a list of things that ALL of his detractors believe.
- He was responsible for the 2004 draft which was generally seen as a disaster for the club.(This one has already been corrected for being wrong of course.)
- He is overwhelmingly responsible for drafting Oakley-Nichols at 8 in 2005 despite being an unpaid part-time recruiter that year. Greg Miller wanted Travis Varcoe at 8.
- Greg Miller alone was responsible for the drafting of Riewoldt in 2006, Cotchin and Rance in 2007. It seems the detractors oddly enough concede credit to Jackson for Edwards in 2006. But Miller should take credit for the others despite Jackson being the Recruiting Manager and sole full time recruiter at the club.
- Jackson alone was responsible for the balance of the selections in 2006-2007.
- Jackson did not select Martin in 2009, Melbourne did that for him. Jackson would have taken Trengove over Martin. We should overlook that there were roughly 100 footballers drafted after Martin in that year, Melbourne apparently selected Martin for Jackson.
- Jackson did not select Rance at 18 in 2007, Terry Wallace did.
- Jackson resumed full responsibility for all drafting decisions 2008-2013 inclusive, with particular responsibility for Vickery, Post, McBean, Griffiths, Elton, Troy Taylor, Conca, Batchelor who are seen as failures.
- Better recruiting that occurred from 2014 was due to Luke Williams coming on board as a third full time Recruiting Officer at that time.
- Better recruiting from 2017 is due to Jackson being demoted.
- The club’s on field performance only improved once Jackson was demoted.
In summarising all of these arguments, you would be forgiven for thinking all of the recruits with positive outcomes are to be credited to Miller, Clarke and/or Williams, and all of the recruits with negative outcomes are solely down to Jackson.
I’m sure no one poster believes all that to be true though there are a couple who might be pretty comfortable claiming all of that is correct.
There are a few statements I am prepared to make before looking deeper at the actual recruiting performance during his time in charge. Those are:
- His retention as a Recruiting Officer by the club after the late 2016 review is a strong indication that insiders consider him a very competent recruiter. A lot of other people were purged at this time and so the club would not have hesitated to move Jackson on if he was not considered useful.
- It is unbalanced to the point of being obviously wrong to slate all the hits to other people and all the misses to Jackson.
- It appears palpably wrong to say the club’s recruiting has been incompetent for the whole of Jackson’s reign as Recruiting Manager, because so many players recruited during that period played in the club’s most recent two premierships.
- It makes sense the recruiting department has worked better as time has passed, but this does not have to be due to any incompetence on Jackson’s part. Jackson was full time on his own 06-08, two other ft recruiters added to him from 09-13, a fourth ft recruiter was added for 14-onwards, and a full review of the recruiting department reshuffled people into more suitable roles from 2017-onwards. All staff once appointed appear to have been retained, and it would also make sense they would become better in their roles the longer they are in those roles.
- It does not make sense that Jackson is an egomaniac as suggested by some. Why would he hang around to happily work under Clarke from 2017 onwards if this was the case?
I stand to be corrected and am open to debate on any of these statements. But in the near future I will also try to do some comprehensive comparisons with other clubs during the period in question. I have already compared us to the highly successful Hawks over this period on the Chris Scott thread and I believe the comparison came out favourably to Richmond if anything even after adjusting for the Tigers’ superior array of picks over the period.
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Phar Ace
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Potatoes get a bad rap just like Francis
Potatoes
A single large potato is high in potassium, magnesium, iron, copper and manganese. It also contains vitamin C and most B vitamins (27). They contain a little bit of almost every nutrient you need. There are accounts of people living on nothing but potatoes for a long time
I think FJ detractors can now put down their guns or find a hole big enough to squirm into. Our performance since 2013 is a fair body of work, we’ve won more games than all but 2 clubs , 2 afl flags , minor premiers , 1 vfl flag and a r/up. Yea I reckon his CV looks alright , I said as much years ago. I like clarkey , he’s learnt his craft off one of the generational drafting gurus that turned our list from worse than Fitzroy smack bang during 2y of compromised drafts to where we are today
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# 3 years of compromised drafts really!
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Sorry I miss worded my statement:Potatoes get a bad rap just like Francis
Potatoes
A single large potato is high in potassium, magnesium, iron, copper and manganese. It also contains vitamin C and most B vitamins (27). They contain a little bit of almost every nutrient you need. There are accounts of people living on nothing but potatoes for a long time
It should have been,”Once a spud always a potato “
Hope you’re well big boy?
Was it 3 I only thought 2 , I think you’re right . Someone name another recruiter that’s listed a dual premiership team being handcuffed for 2-3y with compromised draft . I’ll grab the popcorn , can’t wait to hear the noms
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Thank God Francis was so inept or we wouldn't be the reigning premiers after 6 finals appearances in 7 years with two flags.
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Yeah GWS got to compromise two drafts.
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I brought the popcorn earlier. It’s interesting a couple of posters are quiet
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And still compromising
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Yep, they compromised the last Grand Final too
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They seem to prefer to do it when no one is looking I think, habit of a lifetime
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So far BigBoy Imposter. We are all just one forgotten handshake away.......... Keep eating those potatoes, they are better for you than you realise
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Elbow touch, handshakes aren’t allowedSo far BigBoy Imposter. We are all just one forgotten handshake away.......... Keep eating those potatoes, they are better for you than you realise
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Proof is in the pudding and now FJ is having his day in the sun and why shouldnt he? Nearly all of us were criticising him and the rest of the club several years back, now that theyve turned it around they deserve the accolades -
However just remember its never 1 individual that causes the success or failure, its not the 70's/80's or 90's anymore, it takes a team collective to be successful these days. Peggy, Gale, Dimma, the FD, the recruiting department, the captain theyve all played a role. I recall it being mentioned that in 2016 everyone got together to have a frank discussion of where we were at as footy side, we identified the key strengths and weaknesses of our playing group, and then made a decision to base our footy philosophy on what we currently had at our disposal and felt was an edge on most of the competition(speed and stamina) and continued to build on that. The rest is history
However just remember its never 1 individual that causes the success or failure, its not the 70's/80's or 90's anymore, it takes a team collective to be successful these days. Peggy, Gale, Dimma, the FD, the recruiting department, the captain theyve all played a role. I recall it being mentioned that in 2016 everyone got together to have a frank discussion of where we were at as footy side, we identified the key strengths and weaknesses of our playing group, and then made a decision to base our footy philosophy on what we currently had at our disposal and felt was an edge on most of the competition(speed and stamina) and continued to build on that. The rest is history
Following is part of one of my posts on the Chris Scott Hates Richmond but Loves Whingeing thread. Here I have attempted to compare Richmond’s recruiting performance with Hawthorn’s over the Francis Jackson as recruiting Manager period. I have since realised I had the period slightly wrong, I went from 2005-2015 inclusive, whereas I now realise the period he was in charge included the drafts 2006-2016.
I will move on to compare to some other clubs along similar lines in the correct period in future posts. Happy to take feedback as to whether there are better ways to compare but I will only alter the parameters if I can see a clear and helpful reason to do so.
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I will start with my benchmark of 100 games for the club as a starting point measure of successful drafting here. We can break this group down further later. During the Jackson period, we drafted the following list of players who have played 100 games or more for Richmond or who look nearly certain to do so.
White, Riewoldt, Edwards, King, Cotchin, Rance, Vickery, Martin, Astbury, Grimes, Conca, Houli, B Ellis, Vlastuin, Mcintosh, Short, Castagna, Lambert, Rioli, Broad. (20 players)
Hawthorn came up with the following list:
Birchall, Guerra, Suckling, Rioli, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Shiels, Breust, Stratton, Duryea, Smith, Puopolo, Ceglar, Sicily, Hardwick. (15 players)
Both clubs took roughly 90 picks in the period. I think it is fair to assume Jackson had a better array of picks to work with, but let us see if that is correct. I will list all top 60 picks both clubs took, and let’s just say after that, all picks are of roughly equal value including rookie picks because if a club really wanted to take a player who ends up at another club with a later pick than 60 they have had their chance.
Richmond array of top 60 picks 2005-2015:
2, 3, 6, 8, 8, 9, 12, 12, 13, 15, 15, 18, 19, 24, 26, 26, 26, 30, 31, 33, 33, 35, 40, 42, 44, 47, 50, 50, 51, 51, 51, 52, 55, 58, 58, 60, (all those numbers add up to 1103/36 = our average draft pick in this sample is 30.63)
As we can see:
- 36 picks in the top 60, including
- 6 x top 10 picks
- 7 x 11-20 range picks
- 5 x 21-30 range picks
- 5 x 31-40 range picks
- 5 x 41-50 range picks
- 8 x 51-60 range picks
Hawthorn array of top 60 picks 2005-2015:
3, 6, 6, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, 19, 22, 22, 24, 24, 28, 29, 31, 33, 33, 34, 38, 38, 38, 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 46, 49, 50, 50, 53, 55, 56, 56, 57, 58, 59(all those numbers add up to 1302/38 picks = Hawks average pick from this sample was 34.26.)
- 38 picks in the top 60, including
- 3 x top 10 picks
- 6 x 11-20 range picks
- 6 x 21-30 range picks
- 10 x 31-40 range picks
- 6 x 41-50 range picks
- 7 x 51-60 range picks
So:
Top 10 picks, Richmond 6 v Hawks 3
11-30 range picks, Richmond 12 v Hawks 12
30-60 range picks Hawks 23 v Tigers 18
You would have to say the Tigers had the better picks at the high quality end despite Hawks having more top 40 picks overall. Just looking at that array, you would say you would expect the Tigers to find about 2-3 extra high grade or elite players, but hold no other advantage.
Now I will attempt to grade both clubs’ 100+ game players.
Richmond V Hawthorn
Elite - Riewoldt, Cotchin, Rance, Martin. V Rioli, Smith, (*Josh Kennedy)
Very high grade players who may not be truly elite - Edwards, Grimes, Houli, Vlastuin, Lambert V Birchall, Shiels, Breust, Sicily, Stratton
Other above average players for 100+ gamers - Astbury, Ellis, Rioli V Guerra, Hardwick, Puopolo, (*Ben McGlynn)
Average for 100+ gamers - Broad, Mcintosh, Conca, Short, Castagna, King, White V Ceglar, Duryea, Suckling
Disappointing for 100+ gamers - Vickery V Schoenmakers, Whitecross(neither ever really established themselves as first choice players over a sustained period)
I think what you see is the expected couple of extra elite players on the Tigers side. Aside from that it is quite even, though the Tigers probably have some extra younger players who could realistically move up the rankings over and above what the Hawks have.
* Make up your own mind about Kennedy and McGlynn. The Hawks drafted them in the period, but they only ever played a handful of matches at the Hawks. They were each traded away essentially for picks around 40 so the Hawks didn’t rate them highly. Kennedy in any event was a bit of a gift as a father son in the third round and Richmond/Jackson never got any such gifts in that period.
Overall, in terms of drafting meaningful players, and adjusting for the picks each club had at their disposal, I would say Richmond comes out decently on comparison. Certainly nothing to be sacking your recruiter over, and they didn’t. The Tigers picked up a couple more elite players and they are proper highly decorated elite, Brownlow Medallist, All Australian Captain, triple Coleman Medallist, Premiership captain, 5 time All Australian. Each of our elite guys has at least one of those accolades to his name. I think I am right in saying the Hawks didn’t come up with any of those from their draft haul in the period. We drafted 16 premiership players in the period, the Hawks drafted 13.
Also, for interest sake, let’s also list top 30 hits and misses....
Richmond(average top 30 pick is pick 15.1)
8 strong outcomes from the 18 top 30 picks. 2 Cotchin, 3, Martin, 9 Vlastuin, 13 Riewoldt, 15 Ellis, 15 Rioli, 18 Rance, 26 Edwards
8 Outright fails: 8 Oakley-Nichols, 19 Ben Griffiths, 12 Ben Lennon, 12 Corey Ellis 24 Cleve Hughes, 26 Todd Elton, 26 Jayden Post, 30 Jake Batchelor,
2 Not good outcomes: 8 Vickery, 6 Conca though both played over a hundred games and Vickery compensation got us the Bolton pick.
Hawthorn(average top 30 pick is pick 17.5)
3 strong outcomes from 15 top 30 picks. 12 Rioli 14 Birchall 19 Smith
2 jury out. 28 Tim O’Brien 19 Ryan Burton(traded out plus effectively about pick 10 for 25yo Wingard, so maybe they got about pick 19 value back for him)
5 Outright fails: 6 Beau Dowler, 6 Mitch Thorp, 22 Kieran Lovell, 22 Beau Muston, 24 Billy Hurtung,
5 Not good outcomes: 24 Brent Renouf, 18 Max Bailey, 3 Xavier Ellis none of these played 100 games but pretty sure all played in one flag, 16 Schoenmakers and 29 Whitecross who never really established as first choice but also played in a flag each.
I think Richmond do really well on that comparison, although we did again have the better array of picks to work with.
We have selected the benchmark club of the era here and analysed it I think fairly and carefully in this post. I think Francis Jackson has been shown to have done well overall. When you consider that he was part-time in 2005, full-time but the only recruiter 2006-2008, and the recruiting department remained under-resourced versus AFL average until 2014, well if he was truly responsible for all our recruiting decisions 2005-2015, he has performed miracles to not lower his colours to the much better resourced Hawks.
I will move on to compare to some other clubs along similar lines in the correct period in future posts. Happy to take feedback as to whether there are better ways to compare but I will only alter the parameters if I can see a clear and helpful reason to do so.
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I will start with my benchmark of 100 games for the club as a starting point measure of successful drafting here. We can break this group down further later. During the Jackson period, we drafted the following list of players who have played 100 games or more for Richmond or who look nearly certain to do so.
White, Riewoldt, Edwards, King, Cotchin, Rance, Vickery, Martin, Astbury, Grimes, Conca, Houli, B Ellis, Vlastuin, Mcintosh, Short, Castagna, Lambert, Rioli, Broad. (20 players)
Hawthorn came up with the following list:
Birchall, Guerra, Suckling, Rioli, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Shiels, Breust, Stratton, Duryea, Smith, Puopolo, Ceglar, Sicily, Hardwick. (15 players)
Both clubs took roughly 90 picks in the period. I think it is fair to assume Jackson had a better array of picks to work with, but let us see if that is correct. I will list all top 60 picks both clubs took, and let’s just say after that, all picks are of roughly equal value including rookie picks because if a club really wanted to take a player who ends up at another club with a later pick than 60 they have had their chance.
Richmond array of top 60 picks 2005-2015:
2, 3, 6, 8, 8, 9, 12, 12, 13, 15, 15, 18, 19, 24, 26, 26, 26, 30, 31, 33, 33, 35, 40, 42, 44, 47, 50, 50, 51, 51, 51, 52, 55, 58, 58, 60, (all those numbers add up to 1103/36 = our average draft pick in this sample is 30.63)
As we can see:
- 36 picks in the top 60, including
- 6 x top 10 picks
- 7 x 11-20 range picks
- 5 x 21-30 range picks
- 5 x 31-40 range picks
- 5 x 41-50 range picks
- 8 x 51-60 range picks
Hawthorn array of top 60 picks 2005-2015:
3, 6, 6, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, 19, 22, 22, 24, 24, 28, 29, 31, 33, 33, 34, 38, 38, 38, 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 46, 49, 50, 50, 53, 55, 56, 56, 57, 58, 59(all those numbers add up to 1302/38 picks = Hawks average pick from this sample was 34.26.)
- 38 picks in the top 60, including
- 3 x top 10 picks
- 6 x 11-20 range picks
- 6 x 21-30 range picks
- 10 x 31-40 range picks
- 6 x 41-50 range picks
- 7 x 51-60 range picks
So:
Top 10 picks, Richmond 6 v Hawks 3
11-30 range picks, Richmond 12 v Hawks 12
30-60 range picks Hawks 23 v Tigers 18
You would have to say the Tigers had the better picks at the high quality end despite Hawks having more top 40 picks overall. Just looking at that array, you would say you would expect the Tigers to find about 2-3 extra high grade or elite players, but hold no other advantage.
Now I will attempt to grade both clubs’ 100+ game players.
Richmond V Hawthorn
Elite - Riewoldt, Cotchin, Rance, Martin. V Rioli, Smith, (*Josh Kennedy)
Very high grade players who may not be truly elite - Edwards, Grimes, Houli, Vlastuin, Lambert V Birchall, Shiels, Breust, Sicily, Stratton
Other above average players for 100+ gamers - Astbury, Ellis, Rioli V Guerra, Hardwick, Puopolo, (*Ben McGlynn)
Average for 100+ gamers - Broad, Mcintosh, Conca, Short, Castagna, King, White V Ceglar, Duryea, Suckling
Disappointing for 100+ gamers - Vickery V Schoenmakers, Whitecross(neither ever really established themselves as first choice players over a sustained period)
I think what you see is the expected couple of extra elite players on the Tigers side. Aside from that it is quite even, though the Tigers probably have some extra younger players who could realistically move up the rankings over and above what the Hawks have.
* Make up your own mind about Kennedy and McGlynn. The Hawks drafted them in the period, but they only ever played a handful of matches at the Hawks. They were each traded away essentially for picks around 40 so the Hawks didn’t rate them highly. Kennedy in any event was a bit of a gift as a father son in the third round and Richmond/Jackson never got any such gifts in that period.
Overall, in terms of drafting meaningful players, and adjusting for the picks each club had at their disposal, I would say Richmond comes out decently on comparison. Certainly nothing to be sacking your recruiter over, and they didn’t. The Tigers picked up a couple more elite players and they are proper highly decorated elite, Brownlow Medallist, All Australian Captain, triple Coleman Medallist, Premiership captain, 5 time All Australian. Each of our elite guys has at least one of those accolades to his name. I think I am right in saying the Hawks didn’t come up with any of those from their draft haul in the period. We drafted 16 premiership players in the period, the Hawks drafted 13.
Also, for interest sake, let’s also list top 30 hits and misses....
Richmond(average top 30 pick is pick 15.1)
8 strong outcomes from the 18 top 30 picks. 2 Cotchin, 3, Martin, 9 Vlastuin, 13 Riewoldt, 15 Ellis, 15 Rioli, 18 Rance, 26 Edwards
8 Outright fails: 8 Oakley-Nichols, 19 Ben Griffiths, 12 Ben Lennon, 12 Corey Ellis 24 Cleve Hughes, 26 Todd Elton, 26 Jayden Post, 30 Jake Batchelor,
2 Not good outcomes: 8 Vickery, 6 Conca though both played over a hundred games and Vickery compensation got us the Bolton pick.
Hawthorn(average top 30 pick is pick 17.5)
3 strong outcomes from 15 top 30 picks. 12 Rioli 14 Birchall 19 Smith
2 jury out. 28 Tim O’Brien 19 Ryan Burton(traded out plus effectively about pick 10 for 25yo Wingard, so maybe they got about pick 19 value back for him)
5 Outright fails: 6 Beau Dowler, 6 Mitch Thorp, 22 Kieran Lovell, 22 Beau Muston, 24 Billy Hurtung,
5 Not good outcomes: 24 Brent Renouf, 18 Max Bailey, 3 Xavier Ellis none of these played 100 games but pretty sure all played in one flag, 16 Schoenmakers and 29 Whitecross who never really established as first choice but also played in a flag each.
I think Richmond do really well on that comparison, although we did again have the better array of picks to work with.
We have selected the benchmark club of the era here and analysed it I think fairly and carefully in this post. I think Francis Jackson has been shown to have done well overall. When you consider that he was part-time in 2005, full-time but the only recruiter 2006-2008, and the recruiting department remained under-resourced versus AFL average until 2014, well if he was truly responsible for all our recruiting decisions 2005-2015, he has performed miracles to not lower his colours to the much better resourced Hawks.
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Popcorn going stale waiting on two posters
How do you like my method for comparing our recruiting in the years Francis Jackson was Recruiting Manager Gun?
N e a r l y , all of us , I was ran out of town on other forums defending him being accused of trolling.
