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there was an update to the NT regs, which is what i think triggered that new clause

Most states don't have any formal regulation on how customer funds are held, as all bookmakers have to have some sort of bond in place depending on the state they are licensed in, what markets they bet, and how their business is structured (ie corporate/sole trader)
 
rumply said:
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TAB are horrendous for this sort of stuff. Can speak from experience , have placed bets where it can take up to 1.5 minutes or so before accepted.

Maybe a suggestion I would have is to have something on their site where it says “maximum stake allowed”
 
NYRB said:
TAB are horrendous for this sort of stuff. Can speak from experience , have placed bets where it can take up to 1.5 minutes or so before accepted.

Maybe a suggestion I would have is to have something on their site where it says “maximum stake allowed”
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With races there are minimum bet laws so that particular punter would have known that. Granted they are for stuff all on harness but would be interested to know what the proposed bet actually was.
 
Hamingja said:
With races there are minimum bet laws so that particular punter would have known that. Granted they are for stuff all on harness but would be interested to know what the proposed bet actually was.
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When you activate the multiplier or boosts with other corps, MBLs don't apply. He's actually had 2 attempts at 6:50am. Once at $9 then the 2nd one which he screen recorded at $5 (Can see the flucs on Betwatch) Lot of shoe horning by him tweeting about it but if he wanted to actually get a bet on he should of tried without the Multiplier. To think his tweet actually caused the price to shorten to where it SP'd when Betfair is the be all and end all when it comes to price inside the last 10mins is delusional
 
lol made my first bet on Betr in years, won $30, and now they are asking for all the verification rubbish – while I've been verified for years.
 

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lol the Dodgers are up 10 nil in the eighth inning and the Pointsbet's cash out is still a loss.
 
One dog promised me a bonus bet then as soon as I deposited said no have to the read the terms and conditions then offered me something bullshit instead. I out smarted the campaigner though and got my money back. The shit punters go through. I won't name the sack of shit they're probably bust now anyway.

Many frauds out there.
 
badusername said:
lol made my first bet on Betr in years, won $30, and now they are asking for all the verification rubbish – while I've been verified for years.
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Same, only keep a low amount in there for the occasional top fluc bet. Wen't to withdraw a measly 13 dollars to round my account down and now they asking for bank statements. Doesn't even seem worth the hassle
 
Hamingja said:
Cheers for the heads up. Haven't bet with Betr since the 100-1 promos but definitely won't bother if they are one of the bookies asking for statements for withdrawals. They can all get in the bin.
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I'll email back tomorrow asking why they need them and tell them to shit my account. I'll let you know how I get on. There is only ever 3 reasons, but of course they never disclose that.

Such a shame Topsport sold out to these grubs. Never had a problem with topsport. Punters getting ****ed over more and more now. The hoops one has to jump through. If cash dies we are all ****ed
 

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Del125763 said:
TAB are horrendous for this sort of stuff. Can speak from experience , have placed bets where it can take up to 1.5 minutes or so before accepted.

Maybe a suggestion I would have is to have something on their site where it says “maximum stake allowed”
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The reason for this is because the calculations actually occur on overseas based servers. Why are they overseas? Because they have a need to centralise the data across overseas based bookmakers to improve the calculations they produce. TABs calculations come from a system in the EU which incorporates thousands of bookmakers. This is also true for horse racing and not just sports.

A huge issue all bookmakers have had in the years is the sheer amount of money bet by the Asian market. No one will openly admit it but the A-League is the most bet on sport in Austalia across the world and by a long way. Reason being is that the timing of the games suit the Asian market so the high end Asian gamblers like to bet on it being that they enjoy soccer over AFL and the like. Its the reason we have seen so many A-League spot fixing situations.

EUs data laws in some parts are basically non existent also so if you are betting with say Sportsbet, its almost certain they pass through and store data they wouldnt be allowed to if located in Australia

In cases where its 90 seconds, its not them checking on you, its just them having a bottleneck somewhere on the servers thats slowing the process down. Its a constant calculation so timings on it are pretty close to each other from the server itself. What is taking its time is sending that information down to your TAB machine which has variables that wildly differ
 
badusername said:
lol made my first bet on Betr in years, won $30, and now they are asking for all the verification rubbish – while I've been verified for years.
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They need to clear out your verification data after a certain amount of time if it is your drivers license or passport if i remember right. Their is a way around it but it costs money to do so for small timers they simply dont bother and would just delete your verification data. I think they use Amazon systems to collect the text data, put it into a database and then dump the main file. They wouldnt pay the 1 dollar it costs to store your verification data since you dont bet with them

Its a fairly standard and correct process you will find
 
rumply said:
Interesting.
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People underestimate the change in odd calculations thats occured since around 2019 time. If you find you are losing more since then its not because you are getting dumber, its because they are getting smarter and the reasoning behind that is because your data is now centralised completely across the world.

It might not seem the case but bet365 was the worst thing to ever happen to sports/horse race betting. It was them who kicked all this off
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
People underestimate the change in odd calculations thats occured since around 2019 time. If you find you are losing more since then its not because you are getting dumber, its because they are getting smarter and the reasoning behind that is because your data is now centralised completely across the world.

It might not seem the case but bet365 was the worst thing to ever happen to sports/horse race betting. It was them who kicked all this off
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I'm strictly horses only these days & am happy enough with the totes. All corps can GAGF as far as I'm concerned. Love the Hong Kong pools, crazy value to be had at times. Looking forward to the day when hopefully the World Pool becomes a more regular thing.
 
rumply said:
I'm strictly horses only these days & am happy enough with the totes. All corps can GAGF as far as I'm concerned. Love the Hong Kong pools, crazy value to be had at times. Looking forward to the day when hopefully the World Pool becomes a more regular thing.
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Horses are about to get 10x worse. A big push for more prize money to be made available across the board and it can only come from one place and that’s us . 2026/2027 is make or break I feel. I can’t remember the percentages the tote is running at nowadays but I do expect it to double
 

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