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So - I rent a house with two others - We deal directly with the landlord (no real estate agents) - He drops by every fortnight and collects the rent in cash -

His family was away overseas for the past two months, and he arranged that for rent over that time he will just collect it all once he gets back -

Tonight he just came to collect the rent for the first time in however many weeks - We had worked out that we all owed four fortnight's worth of rent - We had $3600 waiting for him...

However, in a twist that I can not imagine how it happened, he only thought we owed three fortnight's rent... or $2700 - I am almost 100% certain he is wrong as I checked all the old receipts but I am sure as hell not going to argue with him - !

So... we already have next fortnight's rent paid waiting for him for two weeks' time...

FREE FORTNIGHT RENT..

Small victory for the little guys!
 
whilst it's a small victory i wouldn't go out spending that cash cause if he works it out you're still required to pay it and if you've gone and spent it on a bender, you'll end up behind were you would've been.

hold onto it, and when you're out of the joint and you're bond returned, enjoy the extra cash then.

don't listen to the do gooders who tell you to own up to the guy. it's people's responsibilities to get things right. as long as you haven't deceived him, it's his problem not yours.

i had a great little run when i worked in north sydney for about 4 months and the guy never rang me up to collect rent. he called me about a month after our office moved to the other side of the bridge and i had well moved on from the parking spot.... bad lack, i never signed anything, all i had with him was a verbal agreement that i would use the car space.
 
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radiojake said:
So - I rent a house with two others - We deal directly with the landlord (no real estate agents) - He drops by every fortnight and collects the rent in cash -

His family was away overseas for the past two months, and he arranged that for rent over that time he will just collect it all once he gets back -

Tonight he just came to collect the rent for the first time in however many weeks - We had worked out that we all owed four fortnight's worth of rent - We had $3600 waiting for him...

However, in a twist that I can not imagine how it happened, he only thought we owed three fortnight's rent... or $2700 - I am almost 100% certain he is wrong as I checked all the old receipts but I am sure as hell not going to argue with him - !

So... we already have next fortnight's rent paid waiting for him for two weeks' time...

FREE FORTNIGHT RENT..

Small victory for the little guys!
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Make good use of it and spend it on a massive bender.
 
Black Thunder said:
whilst it's a small victory i wouldn't go out spending that cash cause if he works it out you're still required to pay it and if you've gone and spent it on a bender, you'll end up behind were you would've been.
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Pretty sure I will just use the 'extra $900' to pay the next fortnight's rent when it rolls around...-
 

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My attitude to things like this depends on what you think the future will hold. If you really like the place and hope or plan to stay there for a long time yet, there can be advantages to letting him know and giving him the cash. Sounds like you have a pretty good arrangement with him (no agents etc), owning up to something like that can benefit you a lot more in the long run. You could get on really good terms with him and he’ll be more likely to be cool in the future, more relaxed about the place and less likely to hike up the rent (landlords can be absolute campaigners if they want to be). If he realises down the track (or maybe he already has) that you shorted him, he’ll be more likely to think “**** them” when something comes up.

Example, I help run a small business, a few times for whatever reason we haven’t paid suppliers and they’ve somehow missed it and showed it as paid, or they’ve overpaid us for rebates etc. We always go back to them and let them know. You cough up in the short term (but you’re really no further behind than you should have been anyway), but I’ve got zero doubt it helps with the great relationship we have with them, which benefits us in a shitload of ways.

If you point out mistakes that benefit the other party, it’s going to win you a lot of respect.

But yeah, if you don’t give a shit and will be out of there soon anyway, just leave it. But just remember to be smart and keep an eye on the long term.
 
^^ this. You're an honest po-lice, Bunk.

Definitely point it out and cough up. You mightn't go out on as big of a weekend you'd have liked to, but you'll be surprised how satisfying it is when large sums of money are involved (and resolved).
 
Unless the landlord is financially negligent, he (or his wife or adult children) will eventually notice the missing $900. And unless he's a hell of a guy he'll expect you to pay it.

However, this:

radiojake said:
collects the rent in cash -

His family was away overseas for the past two months, and he arranged that for rent over that time he will just collect it all once he gets back
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makes me wonder if you have even have a real lease with him anyway? Him collecting your rent in cash and delaying it when he's out of town makes it sound like he's trying to avoid the ATO knowing he's renting his property. In which case you could probably tell him to get knicked if he asks for the $900. But if that happens before you move out he'll turn into a dick landlord and try his best to run you out...

I'm no big city lawyer by the way :p
 

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If he has calculated the rent and communicated to you that amount owing, and is certain - you have no issues.

That is his problem, not yours.

However if he was a little unsure whilst notifying you, I'd be paying up myself.
 
Black Thunder said:
whilst it's a small victory i wouldn't go out spending that cash cause if he works it out you're still required to pay it and if you've gone and spent it on a bender, you'll end up behind were you would've been.

hold onto it, and when you're out of the joint and you're bond returned, enjoy the extra cash then.

don't listen to the do gooders who tell you to own up to the guy. it's people's responsibilities to get things right. as long as you haven't deceived him, it's his problem not yours.

i had a great little run when i worked in north sydney for about 4 months and the guy never rang me up to collect rent. he called me about a month after our office moved to the other side of the bridge and i had well moved on from the parking spot.... bad lack, i never signed anything, all i had with him was a verbal agreement that i would use the car space.
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He hasn't paid what he owes as per their agreement, and he is fully aware of it as he's admitted it here. He is knowingly short changing the other party. Isn't that deceiving him?

I agree that it's up to both parties to perform their own financial diligence, but when one party consciously knows they are not paying what they should, well then it comes down to integrity, ethics, SANF, etc.

Bottom line is that the landlord is entitled to that money as per the rental agreement, so I wouldn't be spending it in case he gets wise to the shortfall.
 
Colin D'Cops said:
If he has calculated the rent and communicated to you that amount owing, and is certain - you have no issues.

That is his problem, not yours.

However if he was a little unsure whilst notifying you, I'd be paying up myself.
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I agree with this post.

If when notifying you of the rent, he said things like "I think it's $2700" or "yeah I'm fairly sure" etc, then I'd probably offer up what I believe it to be ($3600) and get him to go over his working (how much working can there be??), and see if he works out his mistake. If he then said na it's $2700, that would be the end of it for me. But I'd be backing him in to say oh yeah sorry $3600
 
I should clarify a little... also there has been more to the story...

When he came around for the rent, I actually said to him 'so it's $3600?' - To which he looked at me weird and said 'no its $2700...' - From then on I agreed with him, (even though I still thought it should have been $3600) and it was after this interaction that I posted the OP...

Later that night (and after the OP was posted) he came back - I thought 'oh great he has worked it out' - Turns out I confused him quite a bit, and had gone home to work out whether he was right or not. He came back to my place with a calender with all of the rent days marked on it. He systematically showed me how we only owed him $2700 -

It was an odd experience... I still think he is wrong... I am still half expecting him to show up and ask for the other $900..
 

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Murder the landlord and take back the other $2700.
 
Short changing someone is not a 'victory for the little guys', it's effectively stealing.

As it is, I ain't gunna argue with the guy if he doesn't want my money.
 

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