The Law Freedom of Speech

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Soft Downhill Skier said:
Nobody claimed they were nazis.

I provided examples that disprove your statement about them being biased against right wingers.
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As I said
Their have successfully fought their case to youtube

Yet the like of PragerU are shadowbanned
Just another group of Nazis hey


Why don't you use your old name?
Are you ashamed and embarrassed by it?
 
WA ROO said:
By deleting channels with over 600k subscribers???
Vids with over 100k views?

Doesn't sound like a business decision
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They would balance that with the number of people who would boycott You-Tube is those channels weren't taken down.

It's not an uncommon consideration.
 
CheapCharlie said:
A lot get banned or their videos removed. There isnt much freedom of speech on Youtube unless you are from the left side of politics

You mentioned once you have your own Youtube channel. What is the name of it?
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If you are from the right wing - and your channel espouses free market policies, is against welfare etc etc

You wont have a problem - your channel will go on forever

If on the other hand you espouse racism or hate speech - a private company - whos terms and conditions disallow hate speech and racism are perfectly entitled to delete your account.

Its not rocket surgery.

Now seeing as part of almost every left wing manifesto ive ever seen is about the equality of man and is against hating on minority groups - theres your answer.


Now i dont know if there is any hardcore russian commies from the 70’s on youtube - but they were very anti gay back then - if they are still out there and spruiking that gay people should be gulaged - they are also at risk of having their channel deleted - if however all they did was whine about how much better things were under uncle nik kruschev - they’d be fine.

Its not about right wing vs left wing - its hate speech.


You would have to be a completely ignorant imbecilic sausage knot to misunderstand this.
 

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WA ROO said:
My position is that youtube is biased towards the regressive left
The channel deletions,shadow bans and vid deletions prove this


Why don't you use your old name?
Are you ashamed and embarrassed by it?
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Have you ever posted anything without personal sniping? Please link and I will print the post out and frame it.
 
kranky al said:
If you are from the right wing - and your channel espouses free market policies, is against welfare etc etc

You wont have a problem - your channel will go on forever

If on the other hand you espouse racism or hate speech - a private company - whos terms and conditions disallow hate speech and racism are perfectly entitled to delete your account.

Its not rocket surgery.

Now seeing as part of almost every left wing manifesto ive ever seen is about the equality of man and is against hating on minority groups - theres your answer.


Now i dont know if there is any hardcore russian commies from the 70’s on youtube - but they were very anti gay back then - if they are still out there and spruiking that gay people should be gulaged - they are also at risk of having their channel deleted - if however all they did was whine about how much better things were under uncle nik kruschev - they’d be fine.

Its not about right wing vs left wing - its hate speech.


You would have to be a completely ignorant imbecilic sausage knot to misunderstand this.
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It isnt as simple as you would like it to be

Often bannings occur and then hate speech is invoked as the justification for the heavy handedness. Hate speech itself is a constantly moving line in society, and often depends who is administering or interpreting guidelines

Social media platform bannings are nearly always the banning of commentators on the right of politics. Some of those deserve some time on the sidelines, but most are penalised for minor and debatable infractions. The threat of suspension and deletion of an account is enough in itself to stifle free speech and have people moderating and self censoring what they say to avoid being banned.
That in itself is stopping free speech

But the hypocrisy is often evident.
White person says something hateful about blacks.
Black person says something hateful against whites.
Both examples can be cited as individually/combination of hate speech, bigotry, racism, yet typically only the white group will be classified as hate speech and receive a banning from whatever platform or be de-monitised. Being de-monitised can be similar to being banned.

Similarly
A guy says all women are whores
A woman says all guys are rapists
Both are examples of hate speech misandry/mysogny, most would agree
Yet it will be the man who is accused of hate speech and banned, not the woman.

So it isn't so simple to say don't do hate speech, because the lines of what is hate speech are movable depending on Gender/ethnicity/politics of moderators for social media giants

The private company line has been used many times but the likes of platforms such as Twitter, Google, Youtube, Facebooks , etctaera , are predatory monopolies and competition against them is almost impossible at this time.
So , while they are private (or public companies), they are in effect a public service for most people.
 
CheapCharlie said:
It isnt as simple as you would like it to be

Often bannings occur and then hate speech is invoked as the justification for the heavy handedness. Hate speech itself is a constantly moving line in society, and often depends who is administering or interpreting guidelines

Social media platform bannings are nearly always the banning of commentators on the right of politics. Some of those deserve some time on the sidelines, but most are penalised for minor and debatable infractions. The threat of suspension and deletion of an account is enough in itself to stifle free speech and have people moderating and self censoring what they say to avoid being banned.
That in itself is stopping free speech

But the hypocrisy is often evident.
White person says something hateful about blacks.
Black person says something hateful against whites.
Both examples can be cited as individually/combination of hate speech, bigotry, racism, yet typically only the white group will be classified as hate speech and receive a banning from whatever platform or be de-monitised. Being de-monitised can be similar to being banned.

Similarly
A guy says all women are whores
A woman says all guys are rapists
Both are examples of hate speech misandry/mysogny, most would agree
Yet it will be the man who is accused of hate speech and banned, not the woman.

So it isn't so simple to say don't do hate speech, because the lines of what is hate speech are movable depending on Gender/ethnicity/politics of moderators for social media giants

The private company line has been used many times but the likes of platforms such as Twitter, Google, Youtube, Facebooks , etctaera , are predatory monopolies and competition against them is almost impossible at this time.
So , while they are private (or public companies), they are in effect a public service for most people.
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Do these things actually happen - or do you just think they do because the sites you read keep telling you they happen?

Case in point:

<<<In the wake of a terrorist attack in London earlier this month, a U.S. congressman wrote a Facebook post in which he called for the slaughter of “radicalized” Muslims. “Hunt them, identify them, and kill them,” declared U.S. Rep. Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican. “Kill them all. For the sake of all that is good and righteous. Kill them all.”
Higgins’ plea for violent revenge went untouched by Facebook workers who scour the social network deleting offensive speech.
But a May posting on Facebook by Boston poet and Black Lives Matter activist Didi Delgado drew a different response.
“All white people are racist. Start from this reference point, or you’ve already failed,” Delgado wrote. The post was removed and her Facebook account was disabled for seven days.>>>

Source: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwin2ILD8cnhAhXKdn0KHQzGDl8QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.propublica.org%2Farticle%2Ffacebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms&psig=AOvVaw146LqUkHARHCugGrJv-Xry&ust=1555135553090685
 
CheapCharlie said:
The private company line has been used many times but the likes of platforms such as Twitter, Google, Youtube, Facebooks , etctaera , are predatory monopolies and competition against them is almost impossible at this time.
So , while they are private (or public companies), they are in effect a public service for most people.
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Why haven't the likes of Watson, Pool, Southern, Molyneux and plenty of others been banned?

And in regards to competition, many banned from social media platforms have migrated to Gab. Have you had a look at what that is all about?
 
Soft Downhill Skier said:
Why haven't the likes of Watson, Pool, Southern, Molyneux and plenty of others been banned?

And in regards to competition, many banned from social media platforms have migrated to Gab. Have you had a look at what that is all about?
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Never heard of gab

Does it work for you?
 
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