Freemantle Trial Comments

[Lach72]

Hahaha oops

Oh soloman.
That's alright then.

i thought it was someone important

 

[-CG-]

It was Josh Carr was it not???

Yeh, thats what I thought.

 

[Lach72]

Ah crap. i thought so

 

[NikkiNoo]

ok back from the game and for what it's worth here's my thoughts.

From the start we looked very flat, like a hard week on the track. We seemed to be more concerned with getting the processes right and as such our kick outs were very slow which allowed Freo to set up their flood easily, hence the major issues heading into our forward lines. We also could not buy a free in the forward line. No 27 needs to hang his dyed head in shame and I think I need to have words with his mum! Our zone defence needs to be set a little wider as we gave them too much space down the wing and they used it.

VB was used with Shirley as a tag team effort on Carr. There were a lot of midfield rotations for us, mainly the younger guys being used in there with Goodwin and Edwards limited time in the middle. Knights seemed to have bought his own footy to the game again, only this time he also brought a bar of soap with him too. The boys were not strong enough at the ball with their hands and it meant that there were lots of little drops and hardly any clean takes. Douglas has this attitude of 'you are not going to tackle me' and it works! Bock is fairly similar to this, can't believe his little weaves between defenders, now if he could only learn to kick between the two REALLY big poles we will be fine.

Sandilands figured out very quickly not to let Griffen jump at the ball as he out jumped him each time. Loved Bones comment that Girffen hasn't had enough footy in the pre-season! He has had exactly the same amount as time as Hudson (if not a little more) and yet Huddo is ok- pfft and this guys wonders why he failed as a coach...... Oh and ignore the commentators, mum was telling me some of the crap they were coming up with and it was a completly different game to the one I was seeing.

Craigy mentioned in his address to the members before the game that he wanted to talk to them away from the media and the message was for us, so instead of me posting a recap of his comments in here, send me a pm and I'll let you know that way.

 

[rayven]

Pretty lack lusture performance tonight. We seemed indecisive off half back, everything was just so slow from getting the ball from defence to attack. We chipped sideways a lot, and backwards from time to time. We mucked around on the 50m arc a number of time, instead of just going for goal. Macca went for goal though, kicked a nice one

Some freo player was reported for striking Basset in the head. Looked like a elbow on the replay, Bassest is ok though. Doughty may have picked up a niggle and took no part in the last quarter.

Griffen was good, boy can he leap he had a nice piece of play in the first quarter, where he got the hit out, picked up a handball then dived on the loose ball. Edwards played well tonight, he found plenty of the ball, as did McLeod. Johncock looked better as the game went on. Knights also found the ball a lot. Vince and Porplyzia both played more in the second half. Vince finished with around 10 possessions, a few marks and a couple of behinds. Ian Perrie had a bad night. He wouldn't have taken one mark, he didn't score.

Possesion overall wasn't very good. There were a lot of missed kicks and handballs. We have some improving to do in two weeks.

Final Score:
Adelaide 7.15 57
Fremantle 11.11 77

Adelaide Goals: Bode 2, Burton, Hudson, Johncock, McLeod, Bock 1,

cheers for that, aint spoke to you for awhile.

the word pazuzu should tell you something

 

[NikkiNoo]

One thing I would love the club to do is give a lesson to supporters to look into our forward line when we start to chip the ball around. They may then see the number of opposition players and hence the reason we need to chip the ball around. The supporters around us started booing in the second quarter when this happened, but if they had of glanced into our forward line and saw pretty much the whole Freo team apart from about 6 players then there was a very good reason to chip it around..... A couple of times Freo had no players behind the centre line - and they call us Flood-adelaide

 

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Craigy mentioned in his address to the members before the game that he wanted to talk to them away from the media and the message was for us, so instead of me posting a recap of his comments in here, send me a pm and I'll let you know that way.

PM please

 

[Crow Envy]

I believe the analysis of the game have been accurate. For me the worrying sign was the lack of pace, run, movement to the forward line and energy. We looked really flat, thats one thing we can pick up but our pace is a real worry.

None of our midfielders have blistering pace, whereas most the of the other teams are focussing on that.

We also didnt seem to get the numbers back as we have in the last two seasons, I wonder if that was intentional by Craigy or the fact the boys didnt work hard enough.

 

[NikkiNoo]

We also didnt seem to get the numbers back as we have in the last two seasons, I wonder if that was intentional by Craigy or the fact the boys didnt work hard enough.

If we had of done that it would have turned into a game of mini league and all players following the ball around the oval

 

[Crow Envy]

If we had of done that it would have turned into a game of mini league and all players following the ball around the oval

So weve been playing in the mini league for the last two years?

 

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One thing I would love the club to do is give a lesson to supporters to look into our forward line when we start to chip the ball around. They may then see the number of opposition players and hence the reason we need to chip the ball around. The supporters around us started booing in the second quarter when this happened, but if they had of glanced into our forward line and saw pretty much the whole Freo team apart from about 6 players then there was a very good reason to chip it around..... A couple of times Freo had no players behind the centre line - and they call us Flood-adelaide

But what's wrong with going for goal or setting it up for the goal square? I can understand that sometimes we need to be patient to be able to get a mark in the 50, but that didn't seem to work tonight.

 

[NikkiNoo]

What I meant CE was that the extent that Freo were flooding if we then did a similar thing then it would have decended into that type of game.

What we have been doing for the past couple of years is having 2 - 3 extra players in the defensive area, Freo had 4 - 6 extra in our defensive area.

 

[beagle2]

None of our midfielders have blistering pace,

Most of them dont have any pace

 

[Crow Envy]

None of our midfielders have blistering pace,

Most of them dont have any pace

True, I cant understand why we havent drafted as such.

 

[NikkiNoo]

But what's wrong with going for goal or setting it up for the goal square? I can understand that sometimes we need to be patient to be able to get a mark in the 50, but that didn't seem to work tonight.

Where Sandilands is planted? Who can to outmark him when he also has a couple of other Freo defenders to help protect him a clear run at the ball? If we had of bombed it in, they would have marked and run it out. There was jsut no room in the 50, they choked us beautifully and we didn't work out a way past it. The wind tonight, especially towards the Southern end, was really tricky and a couple of times it swung late when the wind got hold of it.

 

[-CG-]

Sandilands isn't going to get it every single time. But anyway, what we need, to avoid this situation in the first place, is quicker movement of the ball from half back to half forward. Our forward 50 was nearly always flooded because of our slow movement off half back. We gave freo plenty of time to get their players back to fill up the spaces.

 

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Where Sandilands is planted? Who can to outmark him when he also has a couple of other Freo defenders to help protect him a clear run at the ball? If we had of bombed it in, they would have marked and run it out. There was jsut no room in the 50, they choked us beautifully and we didn't work out a way past it. The wind tonight, especially towards the Southern end, was really tricky and a couple of times it swung late when the wind got hold of it.

Maybe this is part of NCs process and how the players react to it. Its a nothing result so watching how the players react to the screen would be more valuable for NC than flooding back to protect the score

 

[Drummond]

True, I cant understand why we havent drafted as such.

Gavin Hughes was a missed oppertunity from last years draft. Averaged about 20 odd possessions last year for Norwood and ran the 100m in 10.92 seconds. Yes I'm biased towards Norwood, but he would have helped.

Mattner is perhaps the quickest player on the list but Craigy won't put him near the midfield. He's the kick-in man these days. But I don't want to start the whole midfield pace debate again.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Actually Drummond - Stiffy did all the kick ins, not Mattner. Mattner was providing run through HB and midfield but Freo were very concious of him and making sure that he was always well marked so that did not occur. He played up forward in the last quarter and hassled well and caused a couple of turnovers.

 

[Sanguinarius]

there were times when we played on as quick as possible, handpass it back, chip it 20m forward, mark, then handpass back again.

I understand we need to play on quickly - but since we were only make 10-15m gains each time it defeated it's self becasue by the time we got it forward Fremantle had plenty of time to flood becasue of the chipping.

other times it wasnt fremantles flooding, it was simply us having NO targets.

Bock did well up to when he had to kick the leather. People are being fairly harsh on Perrie, who did drop a couple but many mostly with a defender or two glued to his arse. Skills in general were average though.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Sandilands isn't going to get it every single time. But anyway, what we need, to avoid this situation in the first place, is quicker movement of the ball from half back to half forward. Our forward 50 was nearly always flooded because of our slow movement off half back. We gave freo plenty of time to get their players back to fill up the spaces.

No he won't get it 100% of the time but he probably will mark it at least 60-70% and you could probably say that 15-20% will whack it through the goals for a point. That is not something that any coach would allow - it's virtually guaranteeing the opposition possession.

 

[Crow Envy]

Gavin Hughes was a missed oppertunity from last years draft. Averaged about 20 odd possessions last year for Norwood and ran the 100m in 10.92 seconds. Yes I'm biased towards Norwood, but he would have helped.

Mattner is perhaps the quickest player on the list but Craigy won't put him near the midfield. He's the kick-in man these days. But I don't want to start the whole midfield pace debate again.

I had my eye on him as well, but is his disposal questionable?

 

[macca23]

I believe the analysis of the game have been accurate. For me the worrying sign was the lack of pace, run, movement to the forward line and energy. We looked really flat, thats one thing we can pick up but our pace is a real worry.

None of our midfielders have blistering pace, whereas most the of the other teams are focussing on that.

We also didnt seem to get the numbers back as we have in the last two seasons, I wonder if that was intentional by Craigy or the fact the boys didnt work hard enough.

We didn't, and I believe it was intentional. Perhaps an experiment by Craig to see what would happen because it meant that Freo dictated the way the game was played and maybe he wanted to see how we would perform under those conditions.

The likely answer to that though is that we caused it - by the turtle like speed with which we took the ball forward on most occasions. That meant that Freo always had the numbers back and the broke from defence into the open spaces - our own game from the last two years.

 

[NikkiNoo]

The likely answer to that though is that we caused it - by the turtle like speed with which we took the ball forward on most occasions. That meant that Freo always had the numbers back and the broke from defence into the open spaces - our own game from the last two years.

I remember the H&A game late last season against Freo and thought that Freo were using our game plan but just not as succesfully yet. Even commented to Dad on this - they seemed to have worked it out a bit better now.

 

[betterthanu]

PM please

me too

EDIT: dont worry if its the same as in the other thread