Coach Fremantle: where to now after Lyon?

[AFDogs]

LLoyd off to Carlton? Why on earth would a bottom struggling side recruit from another bottom struggling side? Looking at some of Freos recruits i just think..ho-hum! Wheres the pizzaz? wheres the little eye catching moves? Look at WCE;.Ryan? Rioli? theres wow factor1 Allen and Brander both mark and move like Rolls Royces.Petrucelli. got X factor. Wheres the wow factor at Freo? Cacera is real good but A. he should be for the draft No; and B. hes probably outta there as soon as possible. Brayshaw is a workhorse and should be.Kirsten,Matera,and Macarthy? what a waste of space.

Way to flaunt your own team and mock Freo's. If you are going to hammer them, don't compare to your team who will be bundled out of the finals as soon as they are required to play anybody at the G.

 

[pablo668]

Please piss Ross off asap Freo. Whether Neale actually goes or not, it's not a good look down there atm.
Cringy thankyou videos at the end of a s**t season isn't going to do it....

 

[wahawk]

makes basically no difference. Your average playing age this year was close to 27. You take those guys out you are dropping by a very small amount.

How bout our rebuild ?

 

[StCicatriz]

Luke Ball MK2

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Way to flaunt your own team and mock Freo's. If you are going to hammer them, don't compare to your team who will be bundled out of the finals as soon as they are required to play anybody at the G.

2-0 at the G this year! When do we play you guys??

 

[its free real estate]

Death grip...right..

You don’t think the pending Neale departure is significant?

This is a classic case of how in denial freo supporters are, Neal's looking at leaving, everyone knows it and if you think you know more about the Neal situation then back up your comments with something.

There's an entire thread on the Freo board with near mutual agreement that if Neale leaves it is a sign we should sack the coach at minimum. You complete nitwits.

 

[Bestbird]

Fair to say that the restump and rewire of the freo house hasn't quite worked.

 

[Coaster2012]

Neale for pick 4? Seems like a backwards step for me. You use pick 4 to get a player like Neale in the first place, with a high probability that he will be worse than Neale. They already have an elite player in him, why go 5 steps backward just to take 5 steps forward again? If pick 4 ends up being the next Danger or Martin, then great, but likely you will just get another player as good as Neale anyway or even more likely that he won't be.

2012 Pick 4: Tompous (delisted already)
2013 Pick 4: Bont
2014 Pick 4: Pickett
2015 Pick 4: Oliver

I'd take Bont over Neale (just). But I wouldn't take Pickett or Tompous obviously. Oliver is the best player in the 2015 draft, I doubt Freo would pull that off.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

makes basically no difference. Your average playing age this year was close to 27. You take those guys out you are dropping by a very small amount.

Burgoyne is like 80 years old though...

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Neale for pick 4? Seems like a backwards step for me. You use pick 4 to get a player like Neale in the first place, with a high probability that he will be worse than Neale. They already have an elite player in him, why go 5 steps backward just to take 5 steps forward again? If pick 4 ends up being the next Danger or Martin, then great, but likely you will just get another player as good as Neale anyway or even more likely that he won't be.

2012 Pick 4: Tompous (delisted already)
2013 Pick 4: Bont
2014 Pick 4: Garlett
2015 Pick 4: Schache

I'd take Bont over Neale. But I wouldn't take Garlett or Schache over Neale.

It'd be nice if you could convince some other supporters of this, the obsession with the lucky dip of draft picks and potential talent over established talent is ridiculous.

 

[Ron The Bear]

How bout our rebuild ?

Hawthorn's age hasn't changed a whole lot.

Year|Avg Age|Age Rank
\2013|26.01|2nd
\2014|25.85|4th
\2015|26.82|1st
\2016|26.49|2nd
\2017|26.14|2nd
\2018|26.13|1st

 

[Lach72]

Chris Bond has just been punted.

Interesting to see where this takes us

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Chris Bond has just been punted.

Interesting to see where this takes us

A: You still have Lyon right??

 

[Freomaniac]

Burgoyne is like 80 years old though...

I just find it funny you blame ross lyon for all of freos problems. I say he is 20-25% of freos problems.

Go look at every 1st rounder from 2007 onwards.

 

[PostPaolo]

Neale for pick 4? Seems like a backwards step for me. You use pick 4 to get a player like Neale in the first place, with a high probability that he will be worse than Neale. They already have an elite player in him, why go 5 steps backward just to take 5 steps forward again? If pick 4 ends up being the next Danger or Martin, then great, but likely you will just get another player as good as Neale anyway or even more likely that he won't be.

2012 Pick 4: Tompous (delisted already)
2013 Pick 4: Bont
2014 Pick 4: Garlett
2015 Pick 4: Schache

I'd take Bont over Neale. But I wouldn't take Garlett or Schache over Neale.

Umm...

 

[Coaster2012]

Umm...

Looked at the wrong one.

2014: Pickett
2015: Oliver.

Would take Oliver. Not Pickett. But Oliver has become the best player in the entire 2015 draft. Not really a rational bet.

 

[Gavin Excell]

There's an entire thread on the Freo board with near mutual agreement that if Neale leaves it is a sign we should sack the coach at minimum. You complete nitwits.

Is the thinking Neale wants out because he is sick of Lyon or wants short term success?

 

[Coaster2012]

Is the thinking Neale wants out because he is sick of Lyon or wants short term success?

Short term success is going to Brisbane?

 

[Luv_our_club]

Is the thinking Neale wants out because he is sick of Lyon or wants short term success?

No, it is Lyon!
No, it is short term success!



No, it is clearly both.

No, it is he wants long term success at the Lions, but he really loves Lyon.

 

[PostPaolo]

Looked at the wrong one.

2014: Pickett
2015: Oliver.

Would take Oliver. Not Pickett. But Oliver has become the best player in the entire 2015 draft. Not really a rational bet.

I tend to agree, pick #4 looks historically a boom or bust selection for whatever reason, with the likes of Josh Kennedy, Gaff, Bontempelli and Oliver amongst on the other hand Tambling, Toumpas and some aforementioned. I would say that you're trading out a very good 25 year-old for a potential star 18 year-old which also comes with some salary cap relief in a talented draft. I wouldn't begrudge Fremantle for exploring it.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Short term success is going to Brisbane?

Well relative success

Brisbane look to be on a sounder footing than Freo

 

[Luv_our_club]

Well relative success

Brisbane look to be on a sounder footing than Freo

I thought you were taking the piss.

 

[Coaster2012]

I tend to agree, pick #4 looks historically a boom or bust selection for whatever reason, with the likes of Josh Kennedy, Gaff, Bontempelli and Oliver amongst on the other hand Tambling, Toumpas and some aforementioned. I would say that you're trading out a very good 25 year-old for a potential star 18 year-old which also comes with some salary cap relief in a talented draft. I wouldn't begrudge Fremantle for exploring it.

Ahh Tambling. Forever remembered as the guy the Tigers picked instead of Buddy.

 

[kane249]

Go look at every 1st rounder from 207 onwards.

I don't think the AFL's been around for that long

 

[Gavin Excell]

I thought you were taking the piss.

No

Trying to understand if Neale is going solely because of lyon