WeaselWJ
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- May 1, 2016
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It's funny though.Why is this thread just Fremantle supporters going back and forth here on the MB. Time to close.
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It's funny though.Why is this thread just Fremantle supporters going back and forth here on the MB. Time to close.
This rebuild is of different character because instead of hitting the draft hard like we did in 2008 and 2009, we have balanced the list by both drafting and trading. In 2010 when we beat Hawthorn in the EF we had 10 first or second year players playing, and an average age of under 24.Disagree.... 2007-9 was much different. You could say possibly worse. Freo in 2008 only had 6-8 guys aged 23 or under.
We at least had good KPPs in their primes such as Pav, Sandi, McPharlin and Johnson. the midfield had to be changed.
This rebuild, the midfield was solid but needed the KPPs to get us back into finals. Freo at least got 13-15 guys aged 23 or under.
We were lucky to make finals in 2010 off the back of Barlows Brilliance from rounds 1-14.This rebuild is of different character because instead of hitting the draft hard like we did in 2008 and 2009, we have balanced the list by both drafting and trading. In 2010 when we beat Hawthorn in the EF we had 10 first or second year players playing, and an average age of under 24.
The team that beat Collingwood on the weekend is a full year older than the 2010 team, and had seven experienced players recruited from other clubs.
Don’t disagree with the last paragraph. However, my point remains that if Mark Harvey can turn around a side half made up of rookies and state league players to make finals three years into a rebuild, then why can’t a better coach in Ross?We were lucky to make finals in 2010 off the back of Barlows Brilliance from rounds 1-14.
Again.... in 2008, we only had 6-8 guys aged 23 or under. you can thank Schwab and Connolly for that. Trading picks 11, 27 and 43 for josh carr in 2004 didn't sit well with me. Trading picks 3 ad 19 for des headland in 2002 didn't sit well with me either.
two totally different scenarios.Don’t disagree with the last paragraph. However, my point remains that if Mark Harvey can turn around a side half made up of rookies and state league players to make finals three years into a rebuild, then why can’t a better coach in Ross?
So, If Lyon makes finals, you want to keep him then?
fair enough but dont be a two faced clown about itI said this last year
Imagine if he was 6-6 mid season and sitting 10th and we extended his contract to 2022. I’d fly over and burn the place down.
Followed by:
Of course he stays if he has an 11-11 record.The only way he gets a contract extension is if he makes top four and/or has a credible showing in finals. I’m thinking a season like 2012 at a minimum, something that shows he still has what it takes as coach.Otherwise it is assessed in 2020.
If you read it again, the two positions are not contradictory. Mental ability does deteriorate rapidly after 60, so I’ll let it slide.Also the fence sitting of 6 and 6 is not good enough, but 11 and 11 will do fine.
If you read my post again you see that I called them fence sitting, and didn't call them contradictory. You have a serious problem reading posts but refusing to understand them.If you read it again, the two positions are not contradictory.
There is no fence sitting. I said 6-6 did not earn a contract extension. I said 11-11 would save him from being sacked at the end of 2019. Do you understand the difference?If you read my post again you see that I called them fence sitting, and didn't call them contradictory. You have a serious problem reading posts but refusing to understand them.
Still playing dumb footy: we have the worst conversion rate for inside 50s in the league. Clear evidence Ross has not evolved as much as you think he has.Once apon a time round 8 and he'd be able to make up his mind. Then it was time to sack the coach. Now at 6 and 5 he needs to wait a minute and think about it.
Sure there is a difference, but it is still 2/- each way, and is a complete backflip from your clearly stated call for him to be sacked. You are all over the place.There is no fence sitting. I said 6-6 did not earn a contract extension. I said 11-11 would save him from being sacked at the end of 2019. Do you understand the difference?
Dumb football doesn't get you to 6-5 with a rebuilding side.Still playing dumb footy: we have the worst conversion rate for inside 50s in the league. Clear evidence Ross has not evolved as much as you think he has.
No it isn’t.Sure there is a difference, but it is still 2/- each way, and is a complete backflip from your clearly stated call for him to be sacked. You are all over the place.
Dumb football took him to GF with a 20-2 H&A record. Still couldn’t convert a huge inside 50 differential to scores in the 2009 GF. The problem for him remains.Dumb football doesn't get you to 6-5 with a rebuilding side.
Hell then, give me dumb football and 20-2 then. If your not in contention you don't play finals.Dumb football took him to GF with a 20-2 H&A record. Still couldn’t convert a huge inside 50 differential to scores in the 2009 GF. The problem for him remains.
Dumb football took him to GF with a 20-2 H&A record. Still couldn’t convert a huge inside 50 differential to scores in the 2009 GF. The problem for him remains.
you wanted Ross Lyon sacked last month, now you changed your mind again.
What? Can you explain to me the bolded?10 years ago it was different. It was easier to make finals as a WA club, but because our club was badly run, we only made finals 3 times from 1995-2011.
Also, its at least 5 times more harder to win the flag in 2019 compared to 2010 let alone make finals.
Posts of this standard while judging a coach winning 20-2 as playing dumb football. The mind boggles.The same inability to turn full field dominance in to scores plagues him now as it always has. Expect players like McGovern and Lake have in the past to continue to gobble up our inside 50s.