CheersDoss tells me he has requested his own board ban.
Seriously?how many trolls did we really have though throughout the season?
we were top of the ladder and barely lost a game, i can't remember us being invaded and trolled all year.
some people in this thread need to calm down, go and enjoy christmas and down a couple of eggnog's.
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Bushie was forced to self ban by Righto and the mods .Doss tells me he has requested his own board ban.
How do you make someone participate if he doesn't want to participate.Bushie was forced to self ban by Righto and the mods .
I for one want him reinstated ASAP and I will not accept anything less .
No, he wasn't.Bushie was forced to self ban by Righto and the mods .
I for one want him reinstated ASAP and I will not accept anything less .
couldhavebeen If you're going to start hurling about accusations of abuse, kindly name the poster or posters you're referring to.I wasn't suggesting that you personally posted anything abusive . I was answering your post as to what I was basing my previous post on .A lot of the poor posting was done on the Mcarthy board which got deleted by MODs
Well said couldaBushie was forced to self ban by Righto and the mods .
I for one want him reinstated ASAP and I will not accept anything less .
The board suffered from West Coast supporter’s syndrome which is when prolonged success turns fans into whiny bitches when their team achieves anything less than being the greatest team of all time.how many trolls did we really have though throughout the season?
we were top of the ladder and barely lost a game, i can't remember us being invaded and trolled all year.
some people in this thread need to calm down, go and enjoy christmas and down a couple of eggnog's.
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Firstly I have accused no one .Secondly I was stating my support for Allicat . Thirdly Allicat in her post made the statement about abuse so if you want names then your asking the wrong poster . I like a number of posters never got to see all of the refered to posts because of the deletions so I accepted her post on face value and that she had no reason to put forward false information . I will always support a Fremantle poster who is getting abused on the boards if it is unjustified or personal .couldhavebeen If you're going to start hurling about accusations of abuse, kindly name the poster or posters you're referring to.
Making unfounded allegations of abuse is just plain wrong - and the fact that you're doing it in a noble attempt to defend Allikat does not make it right.
The posts on the Cam MacCarthy thread (now locked) that were deleted were not deleted for being abusive of Allikat and thus breaking the rules. As Allikat explained, they were deleted for being rude about Freo-hating trolls, thus being off-topic and for that reason breaking the rules.
1. No. "It's completely reasonable" is an opinion. Which is completely wrong, in my opinion.1. I would say that because it's true. I'm talking about the entire site. The "Ballantyne Rule" isn't peculiar to this board.
2. It's not opinion, it's objective fact. We can see infraction history and view each infraction. Serial offenders usually have their own thread on the mods board/cigar lounge.
Well that sucks for the Freo board.Correct, he did. I tried to talk him out of it but he was adamant.
Thank you for this explanation.No, bushie was not banned by the mods. He specifically requested to me that he be removed.
As for the reasons behind it, it's no secret that bushie hasn't seen eye to eye with regards to some of the moderation here recently. We've had discussions with him privately about his grievances. Some of those grievances, in particular around the presence of a few opposition posters who have been trolling, have been largely addressed now.
However, he's made a judgement call that things are still not as he'd want them, so he's made a choice to not participate for a while.
I want to address some of the other things that have been raised here recently. Have opposition posters been given too much rope? Admittedly with the McCarthy saga, there were an influx of a few; one of those in particular actually turned out to be a much-banned Freo poster dressed up as a West Coast supporter, and they're not going to be back on this board, ever. But overall, as a Super I receive all post reports from all boards and I have not noticed a disproportionately high number of reports of non-Freo posters trolling this board as compared to opposition posters trolling any other team board.
Tayl0r and Allikat are new to the mod game, and Seppo has not been around much recently- as happens to us all sometimes- because of his private life being even busier than normal. That's left only Righteo of the experienced hands, and that has happened to coincide with some of the recent unrest on the board here. Righteo has been in a position where has had to shoulder much of the load while not heaping too much on the new girls.
There's something else that needs to be kept in mind. It has always been the case that there is a line as far as public discussion of moderation. goes. This is not a recent thing. During the last month or so, for various reasons this has happened repeatedly, despite warnings to cease, it hasn't. So, that's what the vast majority of deletions have been about. That, and keeping threads on topic. What's the point of a thread supposedly about McCarthy being taken completely off topic by pages of discussion about moderation? Apart from being against the edict of going over the line of public discussion of moderation, it's also pretty hard for those who want to simply discuss football to do so in that environment.
Like any team board, of course Freo supporters should be getting more latitude on their home board than others. But when you believe they are stepping over the line, please do the right thing and report them. And give these mods a chance, please.
Mods should always be open for feedback, but in the appropriate fashion; PM them if you have concerns. Or PM Supers and Admin if you have a concern which you'd rather not discuss with the mod/s in question.
Having countless threads derailed is not the way for these issues to be resolved.
I look forward to prolonged success. Jumping the gun a bit?The board suffered from West Coast supporter’s syndrome which is when prolonged success turns fans into whiny bitches when their team achieves anything less than being the greatest team of all time.
No, bushie was not banned by the mods. He specifically requested to me that he be removed.
As for the reasons behind it, it's no secret that bushie hasn't seen eye to eye with regards to some of the moderation here recently. We've had discussions with him privately about his grievances. Some of those grievances, in particular around the presence of a few opposition posters who have been trolling, have been largely addressed now.
However, he's made a judgement call that things are still not as he'd want them, so he's made a choice to not participate for a while.
Thank you for the explanation and the depth of your reply .
We all need to take a big breath . Not being aware of the conversations taking place behind closed doors didn't help me understand what was happening or why .
Clems knee has raised some valid points that need addressing and I look forward to the outcome .
We give serial offenders a shorter chain and use our discretion with posters who are generally good contributors. Like it, don't like it. Plenty of shades of grey in moderation.1. No. "It's completely reasonable" is an opinion. Which is completely wrong, in my opinion.
Haha maybe prolonged wasn't the right word... But after a few top 4 finishes and starting last season without a loss there was a definite change in some Freo fan’s mindsets. I have always had a sense of pride in the understated happy-go-lucky attitude of our fans, and that attitude is created from the struggle our fans have endured over losing so much and never having too high expectations. The struggle (not just in footy) in a broad sense of the word always gives you a sense of compassion and clarity that winning and expectation can’t give.I look forward to prolonged success. Jumping the gun a bit?
What do you when the poster is both a serial offender and one of the best contributors?We give serial offenders a shorter chain and use our discretion with posters who are generally good contributors. Like it, don't like it. Plenty of shades of grey in moderation.
And the explanation of what this meant (tongue in cheek but still true)Disclaimer - Whilst enforcing the rules we will take into account the different histories of each poster and the context of discussions. This can lead to irregularities with moderating at different times and different moderators.
Perhaps acceptance of irregularities should not be enshrined in the rules so much? Gives carte blanche to Moderators with axes to grind.That's the bit that means all the rest is meaningless and we can do what we want![]()
Curious, Why should moderation not be discussed or the implementation of it or really the lack thereof?There's something else that needs to be kept in mind. It has always been the case that there is a line as far as public discussion of moderation. goes. This is not a recent thing. During the last month or so, for various reasons this has happened repeatedly and despite warnings to cease, it hasn't.
I think you also must be man/woman enough to admit that sometimes you will get a hard on for a certain poster, it is human nature that some people will rub you up the wrong way.You can improve them no doubt, but the interpretations will always differ as mods will view things differently depending on the issue and who is involved and the mood of those involved. Like it or not, that is how modding works.
I wrote the disclaimer to illustrate the point that's it's not consistent.
Posters who have a history of causing trouble will attract the mods attention more than others. This won't change by altering some words here. The disclaimer actually lays bare some of the truths to applying the rules.
#uncagesooze#lockupbushie
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Neither did I and neither did anyone who posted on that thread.I didn't see any posts that I thought were over the top in that thread by anyone
The poster was held responsible. Bushie was banned. No-one else was warned or penalized in that regard. Certainly I wasn't. Neither were any of the other main protagonists in the discussion.Whilst I'm here and on topic for once if Allikat has been subjected to name calling on PM or any other way then the posters should be held responsible for that.