Autopsy Fremantle vs Carlton - JLT Round 3

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  1. Wally Walpamur

    Wally Walpamur Premium Gold

    Fremantle
    Other teams:
    Chelsea, Boston Celtics
    Sep 23, 2016
    2,218
    Palmyra
    And only has 1-2 years until Mundy hangs up the boots.
     

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  2. theGav56

    theGav56 Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
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    Fremantle
    Oct 11, 2004
    14,113
    Bali
    Yep, I have often mistaken them myself.
     
  3. DMan 11

    DMan 11 Club Legend

    Fremantle
    Apr 3, 2012
    2,315
    Freo

    POTY for me so far !!
     
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  4. Kenny_01

    Kenny_01 Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Aug 19, 2002
    13,642
    Perth
    The other thing to remember about Blakely is when he plays in the midfield he generally only plays around 60 to 70% game time. The shift to half forward may see that increase to 80%.


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  5. malpaso

    malpaso Norm Smith Medallist

    Fremantle
    Other teams:
    Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bulls
    Aug 30, 2004
    6,076
    Melbourne
    That makes absolutely no sense at all.
     
  6. Gussman

    Gussman Team Captain

    Fremantle
    Oct 14, 2016
    560
    I think he means that even though he was overlooked by every team, doesn't mean he is bad.

    Walters was pick 53, Neale was pick 58. Both would of been overlooked by every team. Doesn't mean they aren't any good.

    Problem with Ryan was he had a very sub-par combine, otherwise he almost certainly would of been picked up. When drafting mature-age players you want them to make an intimidate impact. Hopefully we can get Luke Ryan to play about 10 games this season, depending on form and injury.
     
  7. wayToGo_

    wayToGo_ Premiership Player

    Fremantle
    Oct 24, 2015
    4,820
    Duman was a rookie pick and it's pretty clear he is our next Brownlow medallist.
     
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  8. ydraw

    ydraw Premiership Player

    Fremantle
    Apr 27, 2015
    4,503
    Actually think Croz is better suited to HB or Wing and that Ed Langdon should play in Ballas role.

    Croz is a beautiful long kick of the footy but you can just as easily use that skill of half back as players like Suckling show.
     
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  9. salim malik

    salim malik Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Jan 14, 2008
    10,570
    Paradise on Earth.
    Crosier played as a mid in the Peel. scratchy . I can't remember Crosier training as a back in any of the pre season match sims. I haven't got a reason but Crosier does not seem to be looked at by the match committee as a half back. Strange decision .
     
  10. Scham

    Scham Norm Smith Medallist

    Fremantle
    Other teams:
    West Perth
    Sep 19, 2004
    9,422
    The difference is that they got picked eventually so there was demand for them from at least one club. Not 1 club had any great interest in Ryan.

    If he stays with Subi all year and improves his fitness and endurance even slightly, I suspect there'll be some interest come draft time.
     
  11. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Jun 5, 2015
    12,281
    I think if freo know earlier about yarren case and decision to retire , liam Ryan is a great rookie list get , he won't be there if he improve like w rioli in this year draft. A bargain get will always have some risk.
     

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  12. theGav56

    theGav56 Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
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    Oct 11, 2004
    14,113
    Bali
    Was Duman our last rookie pick? Happy.
     
  13. Scham

    Scham Norm Smith Medallist

    Fremantle
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    West Perth
    Sep 19, 2004
    9,422
    First I think. Strnadica was our last wasn't he? Other than Deluca and Grey obviously.

    Duman is a great get. Many had him going midway through the main draft.
     
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  14. blue shark

    blue shark Club Legend

    Fremantle
    Aug 15, 2009
    1,706
    perth
    So what does D Pearce bring to the table? I understand having Hill in there at times, but there are plenty of teams higher
    on the ladder with slow inside mids.
    The difference is fast minds, quick hands, and using handball to clear congestion, setup plays, and why a tagging role
    could still be on the cards.
     
  15. theGav56

    theGav56 Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
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    Oct 11, 2004
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    Cheers. Well would not have been happy if the club had preferred Ryan to Strnadica. Can't draft them all.
     
  16. theGav56

    theGav56 Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
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    Oct 11, 2004
    14,113
    Bali
    Blakely hasn't had a high percentage of game time when he has been in the side and developing his forward role may be a means of addressing this. Swapping with Fyfe is a ridiculously good idea and one that will make life difficult for the opposition (Bennell would be better still). Freeing up Hill by making him a more diverse player has the potential to put him into another stratosphere.

    I think our coaching/development team are handling this brilliantly.
     
  17. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Jun 5, 2015
    12,281
    Well that is true , I mean that is obvious mistake there to waste a senior spot with the recruitment of yarren when he can't fulfill the minimum 2 year requirements. I put it as the same categories as Colin slyvia. Defend all you like a mistake is a mistake and is the same scenario except Colin slyvia gone before the draft and yarren gone after the draft.
     
  18. rgauci

    rgauci Norm Smith Medallist

    Fremantle
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    DOCKERS
    Jul 16, 2004
    7,779
    Fremantle
    D.Pearce is an outside mid. Stands away from the contest. Left footer. No doubt limited, can't go inside but we lack genuine quality outside mids. That's why B.Hill looks amazing, yet was fringe at Hawks.
     
  19. Docker82

    Docker82 Club Legend

    Fremantle
    Jun 21, 2013
    2,128
    Anywhere. Any time.
    Even if we knew about Yarran's issues I still don't think we would've drafted Liam Ryan tbh. We would've wanted someone ready to go. A guy who scores low 10s in a beep test is no where near ready to go.


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  20. scon

    scon Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
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    Apr 19, 2009
    10,193
    western australia
    The volume and pace of Billy's and Isaac Smith's run was integral to Clarkson's game plan.More than fringe.
    I agree he looks amazing.;)
     
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  21. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Jun 5, 2015
    12,281
    #146 meima, Mar 12, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
    I disagree, is depend on your paid , if you rookie some one how could you expect him to perform the level of a senior paid . eg if you upgrade Ethan Hughes to two year contract I will have higher expectation of him than those in the rookie list. You paid for what you get . I will probably use the last spot after Luke Ryan to draft a small forward he might not be liam Ryan .rookie rough diamond is where you get priddis,sandiland ,cox, Barlow type of players.
     
  22. Beak_A

    Beak_A Debutant

    Fremantle
    Dec 11, 2013
    105
    Just watched the replay. Might be the purple glasses but I thought the fast handpassing midfield transition game is close to clicking. Blues were quite Faverage tho

    Liked Blakelys energy at the contest, few fumbles though

    Liked Langdons commitment tho some skills improvement could be good

    How natural was Logues super goal. Shows what he's capable of. Still got a bit of the game to learn

    And Fyfe - I think opposition teams are already quaking. Did get concerned at how quickly the umpires were paying holding the ball against him when trying to break away with the footy compared to others though


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  23. Docker82

    Docker82 Club Legend

    Fremantle
    Jun 21, 2013
    2,128
    Anywhere. Any time.
    #148 Docker82, Mar 12, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
    We're talking about Yarran who was on the senior list. If Yarran had been delisted/retired before the draft we take an extra pick in the draft. Honestly no idea who would've been taken but a beep test in the 10s in unacceptable for a guy who's trying to become an AFL footballer, especially one of his size, age and position. I said it in the lead up to the draft and will say it again. There's no way he'll ever get drafted with numbers like that. Come back this year after improving it to high 11s or into the 12s or don't bother coming back. Like it or not running/athletic ability is just as important to AFL recruiters as any skill involving a football. He clearly has the second bit so he needs to work on his fitness and/or desire before he's considered. Certainly not over for him if he wants it but WAFL pre season or not numbers like that not only question his ability ability to build fitness but also how much he wants it.
     
  24. meima

    meima Brownlow Medallist

    Fremantle
    Jun 5, 2015
    12,281
    Based on your previous opinion I think you want a full package , I believe deluca and grey combine test or 3km trial is good then you mention they lack skill . what I am getting at is you don't get a full package in any draft. Yarran skill is brilliant but his problem is outside of the field . Jeremy mcgowen overlook in the main draft due to his weight .
     
  25. Docker82

    Docker82 Club Legend

    Fremantle
    Jun 21, 2013
    2,128
    Anywhere. Any time.
    I would've been happy with an 18/19 year old tbh. They'd be more ready for AFL than a guy who scores 10.1 in a beep test.
     

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