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Late reply but back on this - I completely respect your opinion but also completely respectfully disagree.
We are indeed regularly the youngest team in the comp. What happens when you bring in draftees? You get even younger and further away from a premiership contender profile. We need our list profile to be older - which happens by a) gaining experience and b) bringing in experience.
In terms of not getting ahead of ourselves and thinking we’re close to a premiership - we’re currently sitting in the top 4 and are a few straight kicks yesterday away of being outright 2nd? How close to a premiership do you want to be?
There’s not a single team at a single venue where I don’t think we’re a decent chance. Maybe Brisbane at the gabba?
I don’t mean being stupid at the trade table - but we have a great hand this year, it would be absolutely negligent to not actively pursue every avenue to bringing in elite talent to make us instantly better.
Nope or NTAbsolutely
Have Collingwood ever played in Tassie ?
This does depend a bit on what the relative contribution of the draftee vs the older player is though.
Like a genuine 1st round talent small forward could probably come in and do a better job than current Walters (sad to say but probably true) next year, despite the fact that that would lower our profile by about ~8 months average and our games by about 10.
Agree we should be exploring all trade avenues to make the team better right now though (i.e. Warner, Bolton, Baker as the realistic targets)
I actually agree with what you are saying. I think we are talking about 2 different things.Late reply but back on this - I completely respect your opinion but also completely respectfully disagree.
We are indeed regularly the youngest team in the comp. What happens when you bring in draftees? You get even younger and further away from a premiership contender profile. We need our list profile to be older - which happens by a) gaining experience and b) bringing in experience.
In terms of not getting ahead of ourselves and thinking we’re close to a premiership - we’re currently sitting in the top 4 and are a few straight kicks yesterday away of being outright 2nd? How close to a premiership do you want to be?
There’s not a single team at a single venue where I don’t think we’re a decent chance. Maybe Brisbane at the gabba?
I don’t mean being stupid at the trade table - but we have a great hand this year, it would be absolutely negligent to not actively pursue every avenue to bringing in elite talent to make us instantly better.
Yeh but most of the best ones do grow on WABobby Hill doesn't grow on trees!
They probably weren't expecting Walters to decline so rapidly and by that extra year the others would come onYeh but most of the best ones do grow on WA
Bobby , Kosi , Bolton , Rioli , Tholstrup , Darcy Jones
Almost every team has a gun WA small forward
Except us
Joe Berry looked the real deal today in the final v VIC metro.You’d give up a first rounder for a Kozzie/Hill type. Our forward line is bereft of magic small forwards
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I think the word is that Bolton is staying at Richmond.This does depend a bit on what the relative contribution of the draftee vs the older player is though.
Like a genuine 1st round talent small forward could probably come in and do a better job than current Walters (sad to say but probably true) next year, despite the fact that that would lower our profile by about ~8 months average and our games by about 10.
Agree we should be exploring all trade avenues to make the team better right now though (i.e. Warner, Bolton, Baker as the realistic targets)
You’d give up a first rounder for a Kozzie/Hill type. Our forward line is bereft of magic small forwards
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Rioli from NT, but I take your point!Yeh but most of the best ones do grow on WA
Bobby , Kosi , Bolton , Rioli , Tholstrup , Darcy Jones
Almost every team has a gun WA small forward
Except us
No conspiracy here.Nope or NT
West Coast have to go there.No conspiracy here.
The bigger clubs who can fill the MCG will play there.
Lesser followed clubs will travel to Tasmania and NT.
If the Dockers could fill OPTUS Stadium every 2nd week we would look better, but we cant even fill our home ground let alone MCG
yes because they cant fill the MCG.West Coast have to go there.
Geez, I wish you were around these parts a few years ago with 90% on here personally abusing Taberner with vile shit. I almost gave up BF.Errant
I find your personal abuse of players unacceptable.
I ask you to stop that.
The big vic clubs only fill the G to 80-85% when two big Vic clubs play each other. WC have big crowds most weeks on their own.yes because they cant fill the MCG.
Fill the MCG and you will not have to travel to Tasmania until TASSIE TIGERS arrive.
you are precisly answering your questionThe big vic clubs only fill the G to 80-85% when two big Vic clubs play each other. WC have big crowds most weeks on their own.
The point is one Vic club does not have bigger crowds than one crowd from the WC. Why does WC have to travel to Tassie and not a big Vic club as they are responsible for the same crowds in isolation. If WC played Collingwood at the G and we teleported the WC crowd over there, they would draw 100,000.you are precisly answering your question
80% of G is much much more than even a Full Tasie locastion and that is rarely filled.
So it all about money.
Biggest games must be at MCG whenever possible for both Fans on seats and TV Rights.
LEsser games are played at Tassie or other REgional locations such as NT or Ballarat.
IT is not FAIR.
But it is all about the Dollars.
We can neve rhave a fair fixures until all teams play the other teams same number of times per season.
Certainly the Vic clubs ask to play collingwood in Melb. And they seem to get their wish. Similarly, I believe, we ask not to play in Tamania but we don't get our wish.In Collingwood’s defence ( which is not something I thought I would ever type) , every VIC club ask to play Collingwood in Melbourne as their home game. All about the crowd which leads to more money.
Send the B team down there and just have them try and cork the whole Hawks team.
but you cant telport the WC crowd it is a country apart.The point is one Vic club does not have bigger crowds than one crowd from the WC. Why does WC have to travel to Tassie and not a big Vic club as they are responsible for the same crowds in isolation. If WC played Collingwood at the G and we teleported the WC crowd over there, they would draw 100,000.
He half did it.Voss tried to put the hit on meek.. take him..didn't work...