Autopsy Freo lose v Hawks Rd 18

[drtom]

Fremantle the new Philadelphia 76's... the plan = the process = top 3 draft picks for next 5 years then press for launch (LeBron will be retired / Dangerfield will be retired))

 

[E Shed]

Whats happened to mundy being the deepest forward in the forward line. Since rd 8 he hasnt been down there. We played our best footy when he or fyfe have been playing as our deepest forward as it gives drags the 2nd and 3rd defenders to mccarthy and kersten. And mundy and fyfe can at least make the ball come to ground.

I think Mundy was down there at times but he looked slow and lethargic at times. But you're right, the best game I've seen this year was against Melbourne and Mundy was the difference and not coincidentally Cam & Shane had their best or close to outings in purple.

 

[imperial_oz]

These days, waking up in the morning gives you cancer.

Beats not waking up in the morning

 

[FreoGirl]

Winning doesn't matter at this point. Its actually much better we lose and get a crack at pick 3 or thereabouts.
What matters is intent and education. Games like tonight show the players where the bar is & provided everyone learns from it its all good.
There are some pretty decent players on the pine and some pretty poor ones out there they will replace. Fyfe is still a way off where he can be.

What is worrying is Lyon's continuing to be out-coached by Clarkson but its possible to make the case that Lyon has never had the players available to him to execute a style that can match it with them.

Our forward line is a joke but all it really needs is a SMART solid marking target and Bennell. The rest of the pieces fall into place reasonably easy once you have a couple of keys. If you put Joe Daniher or JK in there it would smarten up very quickly. McCarthy is clever and hard working & he just needs time and some better pieces around him. The non-selection of Taberner is puzzling, really, without Cox and Ryan available to select surely we needed someone who can lead up, create a contest.

Thought Logue really showed some signs he's going to be very good which is a big relief. He's coming on in leaps and bounds every game.
Hughes is another who can really play and is finding himself at the level. Nyhuis is going to be a great little back pocket type. Weller is a slow build but I think he has a really high ceiling. Brad Hill was super tonight, Stephen showed glimpses as did Fyfe.
Hamling is a 10 year full back and if Alex Pearce makes it back and stays fit we have a great defensive spine.

Blakely is amazing. If you want something to cheer you up imagine how much grief it causes Eagles fans when they realise they took Lamb over him.

Blakely is a super star - he really kills a lot of the pain.

 

[FreoBraddles]

PCL for Walters

 

[Lach72]

Winning doesn't matter at this point. Its actually much better we lose and get a crack at pick 3 or thereabouts.
What matters is intent and education. Games like tonight show the players where the bar is & provided everyone learns from it its all good.
There are some pretty decent players on the pine and some pretty poor ones out there they will replace. Fyfe is still a way off where he can be.

What is worrying is Lyon's continuing to be out-coached by Clarkson but its possible to make the case that Lyon has never had the players available to him to execute a style that can match it with them.

Our forward line is a joke but all it really needs is a SMART solid marking target and Bennell. The rest of the pieces fall into place reasonably easy once you have a couple of keys. If you put Joe Daniher or JK in there it would smarten up very quickly. McCarthy is clever and hard working & he just needs time and some better pieces around him. The non-selection of Taberner is puzzling, really, without Cox and Ryan available to select surely we needed someone who can lead up, create a contest.

Thought Logue really showed some signs he's going to be very good which is a big relief. He's coming on in leaps and bounds every game.
Hughes is another who can really play and is finding himself at the level. Nyhuis is going to be a great little back pocket type. Weller is a slow build but I think he has a really high ceiling. Brad Hill was super tonight, Stephen showed glimpses as did Fyfe.
Hamling is a 10 year full back and if Alex Pearce makes it back and stays fit we have a great defensive spine.

Blakely is amazing. If you want something to cheer you up imagine how much grief it causes Eagles fans when they realise they took Lamb over him.

Agree with most, but I'd need to go so deep to find anything positive to say about Stephen Hill I'd need a wetsuit and a diver's helmet


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[imperial_oz]

PCL for Walters

Thats him for the season then.
F***

 

[FreoGirl]

Glad to see you have your eye on the important stuff.

Diet coke gives you cancer anway.

Just settle for the migraines that come with being a Freo supporter

But I don't drink or smoke - I have to have a vice like the other cool kids

 

[imperial_oz]

But I don't drink or smoke - I have to have a vice like the other cool kids

Best vice is horizontal dancing...apparently its good for your immune system as well

 

[Allikat]

But I don't drink or smoke - I have to have a vice like the other cool kids

Same! And I get drug tested at work, so now Diet Coke is all I have

 

[Tazmania]

very disappointed...at least last week we were competitive although inaccurate. This week we gave in with barely a whimper. Sigh

only positive was Blakely. Fyfes body language in the last sucked too.

 

[believe_it]

PCL for Walters

I am actually relieved about that. Thought it might be the dreaded acl at the time.

 

[malpaso]

Positives - 2/3 of the ground we are good
Negatives - 1/3 of the ground we are not

Our defensive structures hold up but seriously how many turnovers can we give the opposition on a weekly basis. 18 of their 23 scores were from TURNOVERS! Turnovers will kill any team and ours were compounded tonight with allowing so many uncontested possessions to the Hawks.

I don't know what goes through our players' heads but they continue to kick to a teammate that is outnumbered and with no advantage in the kick.

 

[FreoGirl]

Best vice is horizontal dancing...apparently its good for your immune system as well

you mean the Lambada right?

 

[jedi mind tricks]

It's clear that opposition coaches and it was said by Lake early on that the Hawks had three players behing the ball to make it hard for our young players to hit targets in our forward line.

Freo had plenty of centre breaks but couldn't make the most of them. Freo will eventually improve it'll take time.

 

[fnerd]

Winning doesn't matter at this point. Its actually much better we lose and get a crack at pick 3 or thereabouts.
What matters is intent and education. Games like tonight show the players where the bar is & provided everyone learns from it its all good.
There are some pretty decent players on the pine and some pretty poor ones out there they will replace. Fyfe is still a way off where he can be.

What is worrying is Lyon's continuing to be out-coached by Clarkson but its possible to make the case that Lyon has never had the players available to him to execute a style that can match it with them.

Our forward line is a joke but all it really needs is a SMART solid marking target and Bennell. The rest of the pieces fall into place reasonably easy once you have a couple of keys. If you put Joe Daniher or JK in there it would smarten up very quickly. McCarthy is clever and hard working & he just needs time and some better pieces around him. The non-selection of Taberner is puzzling, really, without Cox and Ryan available to select surely we needed someone who can lead up, create a contest.

Thought Logue really showed some signs he's going to be very good which is a big relief. He's coming on in leaps and bounds every game.
Hughes is another who can really play and is finding himself at the level. Nyhuis is going to be a great little back pocket type. Weller is a slow build but I think he has a really high ceiling. Brad Hill was super tonight, Stephen showed glimpses as did Fyfe.
Hamling is a 10 year full back and if Alex Pearce makes it back and stays fit we have a great defensive spine.

Blakely is amazing. If you want something to cheer you up imagine how much grief it causes Eagles fans when they realise they took Lamb over him.

Yeah great summary and couldn't agree more on your points about getting another high end draft pick and the bit about Lyon and Clarkson. Clarkos def had his measure but I ll reserve my judgement on that until like you say ,Lyon has a team that can match it with clarkos hawks in terms of talent and balance.

What needs to be remembered too is hawthorn still had the likes of hodge Burgoyne Mcvoy Roughead out there tonight, their experienced cores always been better than ours and most of those guys won't be around next couple years

 

[Midnite65]

The same reason every team's key defender gets 30+ disposals and 12+ marks against us each week. We're not playing a forward line. They don't have an opponent.

The same way that Brian Lake won the medal in the 2013 GF

 

[ydraw]

The same way that Brian Lake won the medal in the 2013 GF

Yep and nothing has changed since.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Good game from logue, blakely and improvement from kersten. How tabs can't get a game in this deplorable forward line is beyond me. I pray we r tanking, as we are showing no signs of improvement. We don't spread quick enough, constantly kick backward with nowhere to go, and our forwards never get separation. I'm blaming our coaches ATM. Very, very poor.

 

[stax on the mull]

I heard some suggestion that Walters did his injury before the game and was testing it out after the warm up.

 

[jerms]

But there'll be no diet coke to put in those cup holders

Be quiet about Diet Coke now - I ran out earlier in the night

 

[Purple dynamite]

I really think some of our line coaches suck. Ie appointments post 2015. Get some f#@king new ones!

 

[fnerd]

Agree with most, but I'd need to go so deep to find anything positive to say about Stephen Hill I'd need a wetsuit and a diver's helmet


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Yeah don't what the go is there is definitely struggling big time,seems not 100% but he keeps putting his hand up for selection and they keep picking him so I guess he s got to shoulder a lot of the blame for his poor recent/ongoing output

 

[ydraw]

Yeah don't what the go is there is definitely struggling big time,seems not 100% but he keeps putting his hand up for selection and they keep picking him so I guess he s got to shoulder a lot of the blame for his poor recent/ongoing output

Putting his hand up for selection is what he's paid to do.

Selecting a team that can win a game is what the coaches are paid to do.

So if they're continuing to select someone they know is injured it's 100% on the coaches.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

I really think some of our line coaches suck. Ie appointments post 2015. Get some f#@king new ones!

We lost Lloyd and Kirk and now have Rock. He is hardly of their calibre.