We could ask but why would Collingwood agree? We've been through this before and found out it doesn't really matter what is fair or reasonable.
Collingwood's second round pick is likely to be close to pick 30. That alone would be roughly the trade value we got for Docherty and Yeo two years ago. That, plus steak knives, is probably all Collingwood is prepared to pay. Once a player has nominated his destination, it doesn't really matter what a player's true value is because we'll get offered whatever the destination club is prepared to pay.
IMO, the only way to get reasonable value back from a side like the Pies is by getting the best possible steak knives in the deal. I just don't see a team outside the top 8 throwing a first round pick at us for Aish.
As I mentioned earlier, I want to see Collingwood playing fair.
Not much is gained in trying to be a bully in these discussions and I don't really want us to have the reputation of being too difficult to deal with.
To be honest, I think we do trade fairly. We have a good trading history with a lot of teams, especially Sydney.
I think Essendon have the worst reputation.
You cant blame us for wanting plenty for Beams last year. To lose such a top line player in his prime is a bitter pill, and we received only potential in exchange. History will decide how we faired, but you don't easily hand over a gun that is in contract.
Anyhow, as I mentioned earlier, I would be happy to offer our second pick and Adam Oxley, who would be a great pick up for you and is a Qld"er to boot.