TV Game of Thrones Season 6 - non book readers *no spoilers until show airs*

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Really like what they have done with sansa. For a long time she was a wishy washy boring character but that has all changed. Arya still my fav stark (i dont count jon as a stark).
Interesting as Jon is considered the most Stark like of Neds kids. Much like Neds sister Lyanna was.
 

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When did she have time to teach the 2 dragons who were chained up the safe words #TitsandDragonsLive
She's used that command quite a bit over the journey, first time I think was back in season 2 when the baby dragons toasted that Quarth warlock who was holding her captive.
 

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She's used that command quite a bit over the journey, first time I think was back in season 2 when the baby dragons toasted that Quarth warlock who was holding her captive.
I also think that the two that were chained up have always been slightly subordinate to Drogon so would have been following his lead
 

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I still think that this is all going to end aptly - with Littlefinger sitting on the Iron Throne. The guy plays the game of thrones better than anyone, and it's not a happy ending.

Aside from that, I'm so in love with Sansa it's not funny
I think he'll get close but somewhere along the way he'll screw up and his lies/schemes will get found out. Won't be surprised if it's Sansa that eventually calls him out on something

Agree on Sansa - she's become close to the most interesting character in the show
 

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That's what I was expecting them to do. But what Dany did was much smarter. She destroyed a few, which forced the rest to surrender. In doing so, she instantly replaced the fleet she lost earlier in the series. She needs ships to get her army across to Westeros, so destroying them all was never going to be her objective.
spot on!
 

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I know a lot of people are fapping over this episode, but I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed. From a cinematography perspective, it was fantastic. The battle scenes were amazingly well executed, particularly the scene where Jon was suffocating. Fantastic...

The problem lies with the plot. The whole thing was telegraphed a mile out. Was there a single viewer anywhere who didn't expect to see Littlefinger come riding to the rescue, when all appeared to be lost? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Didn't think so. The whole Riders of Rohan moment was obvious weeks ago, as soon as we knew this battle was coming, after Sansa met Littlefinger in the barn.

Similarly, is there anyone who didn't think the Masters' fleet was doomed as soon as Dany returned to Mereen with Drogon in tow? Wooden ships & dragons do not mix, and it's very rare that the contest will favour the maritime forces. Once again, telegraphed and obvious.

Having Ramsey eaten by his dogs wasn't as obvious, and it was definitely poetic justice. Then again, we knew he was going to die. We just didn't know how it would happen (until he opened his mouth in the pre-battle confrontation).

I expect more from GoT, not obvious developments that are telegraphed from miles out. For example, who (book readers aside) would have predicted the ending to the Viper/Mountain battle? That's the difference between having D&D working from Martin's material, and having to fudge it together themselves.
 

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That's what I was expecting them to do. But what Dany did was much smarter. She destroyed a few, which forced the rest to surrender. In doing so, she instantly replaced the fleet she lost earlier in the series. She needs ships to get her army across to Westeros, so destroying them all was never going to be her objective.
wasnt her plan you can thank the good old imp for coming up with that great strategy.

Dany wanted to burn all the ships and the master cities down with them.
 
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It was visually clear too as all 3 flew off the massive size advantage Drogon now has over the other 2 due to him roaming free while the others have been held in captivity.
Drogon was the biggest of the three, even before the other two were locked in the cellar. The time he's spent free, while the others were locked up, has only magnified the difference.
 

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I know a lot of people are fapping over this episode, but I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed. From a cinematography perspective, it was fantastic. The battle scenes were amazingly well executed, particularly the scene where Jon was suffocating. Fantastic...

The problem lies with the plot. The whole thing was telegraphed a mile out. Was there a single viewer anywhere who didn't expect to see Littlefinger come riding to the rescue, when all appeared to be lost? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Didn't think so. The whole Riders of Rohan moment was obvious weeks ago, as soon as we knew this battle was coming, after Sansa met Littlefinger in the barn.

Similarly, is there anyone who didn't think the Masters' fleet was doomed as soon as Dany returned to Mereen with Drogon in tow? Wooden ships & dragons do not mix, and it's very rare that the contest will favour the maritime forces. Once again, telegraphed and obvious.

Having Ramsey eaten by his dogs wasn't as obvious, and it was definitely poetic justice. Then again, we knew he was going to die. We just didn't know how it would happen (until he opened his mouth in the pre-battle confrontation).

I expect more from GoT, not obvious developments that are telegraphed from miles out. For example, who (book readers aside) would have predicted the ending to the Viper/Mountain battle? That's the difference between having D&D working from Martin's material, and having to fudge it together themselves.
I was actually thinking that as soon as Ramsay was beaten up by Jon and just lying in his pool of blood that it was going to be another Oberyn/Mountain moment. I needed to see a sword through him or something. Even up to the point where Sansa asked Jon where Ramsay was I was shitting myself thinking he had escaped somehow! So I think the writers did well in that regard.
 
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I know a lot of people are fapping over this episode, but I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed. From a cinematography perspective, it was fantastic. The battle scenes were amazingly well executed, particularly the scene where Jon was suffocating. Fantastic...

The problem lies with the plot. The whole thing was telegraphed a mile out. Was there a single viewer anywhere who didn't expect to see Littlefinger come riding to the rescue, when all appeared to be lost? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Didn't think so. The whole Riders of Rohan moment was obvious weeks ago, as soon as we knew this battle was coming, after Sansa met Littlefinger in the barn.

Similarly, is there anyone who didn't think the Masters' fleet was doomed as soon as Dany returned to Mereen with Drogon in tow? Wooden ships & dragons do not mix, and it's very rare that the contest will favour the maritime forces. Once again, telegraphed and obvious.

Having Ramsey eaten by his dogs wasn't as obvious, and it was definitely poetic justice. Then again, we knew he was going to die. We just didn't know how it would happen (until he opened his mouth in the pre-battle confrontation).

I expect more from GoT, not obvious developments that are telegraphed from miles out. For example, who (book readers aside) would have predicted the ending to the Viper/Mountain battle? That's the difference between having D&D working from Martin's material, and having to fudge it together themselves.
 

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As far as the Bolton's go I'm not sure there's anyone out there who would actually ransom him, the Bolton's are all gone.
a safe assumption that bolton have all wandered away. you'd think the Vale destroyed all of them. and dont forget there were some in winterfell (archers) too. surely the wildlings dispatched them accordingly.

imagine the bonfire that night of dead bodies
 

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Bit of discussion earlier in the thread about why Sansa didn't just tell Jon that Littlefinger was on the way (or she hoped so at the very least) - where did consensus land on the reasoning there?.
I don't think there was any consensus - based on a snippet from the trailer of Jon telling Sansa they have to trust each other I'm guessing he asks her why she didn't say anything about littlefinger
 
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I don't think there was any consensus - based on a snippet from the trailer of Jon telling Sansa they have to trust each other I'm guessing he asks her why she didn't say anything about littlefinger
she may also have given him a serve for not trusting her, with respect to ignoring everything she said about Ramsey. I'd say both if I were to guess.

But the more interesting part of the exchange for me is the bit "we have so many enemies now". Now? Why? Who? Obviously there's still the Lannisters and the Frey's to deal with, but now that they have Winterfell again why is this such a pressing issue all of a sudden? Something has happened, can't wait to see what
 

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The problem lies with the plot. The whole thing was telegraphed a mile out. Was there a single viewer anywhere who didn't expect to see Littlefinger come riding to the rescue, when all appeared to be lost? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Didn't think so. The whole Riders of Rohan moment was obvious weeks ago, as soon as we knew this battle was coming, after Sansa met Littlefinger in the barn.
i bet tolkien is being pleasantly pleased with himself right now with the world likening that scene to the as the riders of rohan moment. spinetingling the RoR scene was.

also, parallels can be drawn between the dothraki army coming around the mountain with the vales entry
 

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she may also have given him a serve for not trusting her, with respect to ignoring everything she said about Ramsey. I'd say both if I were to guess.

But the more interesting part of the exchange for me is the bit "we have so many enemies now". Now? Why? Who? Obviously there's still the Lannisters and the Frey's to deal with, but now that they have Winterfell again why is this such a pressing issue all of a sudden? Something has happened, can't wait to see what
i think she knows they haven't "won the war".
 
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and on the whole Sansa telling Jon about the Vale - I would say it's as simple as she didn't know. Not for sure. She'd sent a raven asking for Littlefinger's help, but that was from Castle Black, and they left shortly afterwards - so it's logical to assume at best she was hoping for the Vale to turn up, and had no way of expecting it. Given that, what's she going to tell Jon? "Um, we may have an out here. But we may not. You know the guy who married me to Ramsey? Well, I've asked him for help. Who knows, he has an army I think. Maybe they'll get here in time?"
 
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