TV Game of Thrones - season 8

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To put it into terms people will understand.

Rhaegar = James hird
His dad = Stephen dank

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Hur hur hur Essendon.

Wasn't the 'kidnapping' that started the war. Was the King murdering other members of the 1% that started it. If he said "My son and Lyanna love each other I'm sorry but it's true" Robert isn't getting half the country fighting a civil war for his broken heart.
 

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There is no way the dead do a "Evil Dead" and start popping out of the crypts. What do you all think this is, make believe???????

I just find Arya seccx time awkward coz she not hot. Pointy elbows.
Yeah don't understand why people think this will be the case. Many of those buried were placed in tombs which if risen from the dead would then need to force their way out which isn't possible.
 
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Yeah don't understand why people think this will be the case. Many of those buried were placed in tombs which if risen from the dead would then need to force their way out which isn't possible.
And yet skeletons walking around (the army of the dead) is possible?
 
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Hur hur hur Essendon.

Wasn't the 'kidnapping' that started the war. Was the King murdering other members of the 1% that started it. If he said "My son and Lyanna love each other I'm sorry but it's true" Robert isn't getting half the country fighting a civil war for his broken heart.
Lol sorry, too soon.
 
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Here’s my tips of those currently in Winterfell and whether they survive the next episode:

Jon – Alive, but very badly wounded
Sansa – Dead; pledges allegiance to Dany with her last breaths
Arya – Alive
Bran – Alive
Theon – Dead; thinks he died protecting Bran, but is later revealed he died in vain
Edd – Dead; dies unexpectedly (almost randomly) early in the battle
Sam – Alive
Gilly – Dead; turned into a wight and killed by Sam to save Little Sam
Little Sam – Alive
Tormund – Dead; dies in a fury saving Brienne from certain death
Brienne – Alive
The Hound – Alive
Beric – Dead; no Red Woman or Top Knot to reanimate him this time
Dany – Alive, as she flees the combat mid-battle
Jorah – Alive
Lady Mormont – Dead; reinstates Jorah with her last breaths
Greyworm – Dead; saves a bunch of other retreating soldiers, but is eventually over-run by wights
Missandei – Dead; sees Greyworm perish and is then killed from behind (but has already died of a broken heart)
Varys – Alive
Tyrion – Dead; dies heroically in the crypts
Davos – Alive
Jaime – Alive
Poderick – Dead; dies in battle
Gendry – Dead; fights back to back with Arya and dies after taking down a White Walker
Night King – Alive; was never in Winterfell

Judging by my AFL tips so far this season, I’ve got a good chance of getting about 3 of those correct.
My guesses:

Jon – Alive, but wounded
Sansa – Alive; will survive the series and rule the North at the end
Arya – Alive
Bran – Dead; the trap will work but he will perish in the process
Theon – Dead; dies protecting Bran to buy time for someone to kill the Night King
Edd – Dead;
Sam – Alive; just not the sort of character to die
Gilly – Alive
Little Sam – Alive
Tormund – Dead; dies after taking down an undead giant
Brienne – Dead; dies saving Pod on the battlefield
The Hound – Alive; has to fight his brother (unless we get a completely undead Cleganebowl)
Beric – Dead; no longer serves any purpose (is the most disposable character)
Dany – Alive; still has to go full Mad Queen
Jorah – Alive; the Valaryian steel sword might just save him (I'm 50/50 on his chances though)
Lady Mormont – Alive; too awesome to die
Greyworm – Alive; seems a likely candidate to die but I think the show will throw a curve ball and kill...
Missandei – Dead; killed by Wight kids in the crypts (foreshadowed by her attempt to talk to them)
Varys – Dead; killed in the crypts by undead "little birds"
Tyrion – Alive; Bran has told him something important that will give him plot armour
Davos – Alive; I hope so anyway...could go either way
Jaime – Alive; unfinished business with Cersei
Poderick – Alive; saved in battle by Brienne
Gendry – Alive; like Jorah I'm 50/50 on this one though
Night King – Dead; the plan will succeed but at a high cost (Bran, Theon and others)
 

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And yet skeletons walking around (the army of the dead) is possible?
Do you honestly expect Ned Stark and Lyanna Stark rise from their tombs and start fighting the living mid episode. The Knight King has his army he isn't going to go looking for reinforcements whilst the battle is going on.
 

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Do you honestly expect Ned Stark and Lyanna Stark rise from their tombs and start fighting the living mid episode. The Knight King has his army he isn't going to go looking for reinforcements whilst the battle is going on.
I will be completely shocked if the Crypt is not full of undead, slaughtering the living who are sheltering there.

The writers have all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, since they no longer have GRR Martin's material to draw from. They couldn't have been less subtle about it, given the number of times we were told that the women & children were going to be sheltering in the crypt, and that the crypt was safe. Then there's the spoilers in the trailers, with Arya running through the crypt and Jon saying that the dead were "already here".

The chances of the crypt becoming a slaughterhouse are 100%.
 

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Rhaegar’s the one who ran it into the ground.
No. Rhaegar was everything wanted in a King. Sane, treated the people well, well read, diplomatic, a great warrior (but only reluctantly). And willing to try and mitigate the worst actions of his father, if not outright replace him (who was still King and mad, so always the risk he could have ordered him killed if he didn't do it carefully). His flaw was not breaking off his marriage (or if wanting to be more like book / historical Targ's then polgamy with the new wife as well as the old) and fetching Lyanna AFTER getting the Mad King out the way.
 

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Dany is in an interesting mental bind over the Jon Snow is the real king reveal.

On one hand she has believed for years that she is the rightful heir & has done things that must haunt her. Sams reaction to the burning of his family members shows her the human cost of her actions. So her first reaction of deny, sure that what your best mate and brother would say is obvious.

But the very opening that Jon used for the reveal betrays the bind. Too paraphrase "Everybody says that Rhaegar was a decent man and yet he raped her". Dany knows her father was a bad king, that he was called the mad king for good reason. She knows her other brother was not a decent man. If Rhaegar was a murdering rapist, than her entire family were monsters. What does that say about her? Is she a monster too? Just one good at self deceit.

If I was writing it, she would accept her inner monster & become a blonde Cersai. But I doubt that is what they will do.
 
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So IF NKs going to reanimate dead people of winterfell, why didn't he do that everywhere else? Then again, maybe he did
He's spent years wandering around the north, gathering his Army of the Dead. Maybe he's limited in the distance at which he can raise them?

Also, leaving them until now makes more tactical/strategic sense. By doing it this way he already has forces inside the castle at the start of the battle. If he'd done it earlier, the living would have burned the bodies and he would have lost this advantage.
 
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I just want to back my stance that Jaime should have been killed at that court scene by saying that Randyll and Dickon Tarly got burned alive by Daeny for not bending the knee despite Tyrion sticking up for them. Jaime fought on the same side as Randyll and Dickon AND killed Daeny's father but was pardoned because Brienne stuck up for him. You'd think Tyrion's would mean more than Brienne's... and then there's the father thing.

Anyway, just putting it out there.
It's probably already been said but I most likely won't catch up to this thread before next episode, but just in case, here's why Jaime survived.

Dany would have loved to burn Jaime, had they met earlier she probably would have. She is now is Winterfell though and Sansa is in charge there, whether Dany admits it or not. She is also unwilling to take shit from Dany. Brienne vouched for Jaime, Sansa said that's good enough for me, shut the **** up Dany. Day went to Jon hoping to have him side with her and he went with his usual needing all the help they can get. Dany had no support from any northeners, realised she was done, so gave in.
 

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I will be completely shocked if the Crypt is not full of undead, slaughtering the living who are sheltering there.

The writers have all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, since they no longer have GRR Martin's material to draw from. They couldn't have been less subtle about it, given the number of times we were told that the women & children were going to be sheltering in the crypt, and that the crypt was safe. Then there's the spoilers in the trailers, with Arya running through the crypt and Jon saying that the dead were "already here".

The chances of the crypt becoming a slaughterhouse are 100%.
They've put the underground of Winterfell and King's Landing in the opening credits so they're not trying to hide that things will happen underground.
 
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They've put the underground of Winterfell and King's Landing in the opening credits so they're not trying to hide that things will happen underground.
They could't have telegraphed it any harder if they tried.

Kings Landing is going to be even more fun. Remember what's in the crypts under the castle? Bones of dragons, long deceased...
 
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He's spent years wandering around the north, gathering his Army of the Dead. Maybe he's limited in the distance at which he can raise them?

Also, leaving them until now makes more tactical/strategic sense. By doing it this way he already has forces inside the castle at the start of the battle. If he'd done it earlier, the living would have burned the bodies and he would have lost this advantage.
Good points. Best to leave pockets of his army in places knowing he can use them when needed. It's like when squirrels ration their nuts and hide them here and there
 
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