TV Game of Thrones - season 8

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True but it wasnt very big. It didnt make you go wooh this changes everything and it came from nowhere.

As soon as the dragon went down we knew he was going to be a dragon zombie. There was no wow moment when they were pulling him up with the chains as we already knew it would happen. Plus a dragon zombie isnt really that much of a big deal.
Agree that the twist was killing the dragon in the first place. Once it was dead, raising it was a fait accompli.

We will never see a twist the size of the Red Wedding now that the books are ancient history.
 

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Loved the books.

I was invested, I threw the book accross the room when reading the Red Wedding, was livid for a few hours, picked the book up and finished it that night.

But I will admit, I am more invested in the show. Love it. Their has been no TV show like it ever.

Waiting so long for each book to come out has turned me off the book experience, there is only so many times you can read them again just before the next book comes out.

I still do question the show on a few things, but they have done a great job overall.
The TV show is great (amazing really) but I'm still longing for the books. Even a show as magical as GoT can't live up to the books (although in this case it's ******* close). But the book material and the depth of information and dialogue is amazing.

Like the Red Wedding and your reaction.... I was gob smacked. I honestly can't recall ever reading something and having my mouth open in shock throughout however many paragraphs/pages that took to unfold. I read it.... then had to re-read. "WTF just happened". So amazing to be able to so transfixed by the written word.
 
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It’s a bit odd to be watching something that you find so much negativity in, like watching the cats win and then posting all the negatives despite winning on the team board.

I just don’t get the negative mindset and the need to watch something that I have stated I don’t like or has declined in quality and then go online and bag it out.

I watched 2 seasons of TWD and it wasn’t for me despite all my mates loving the show, I didn’t continue to watch it so I could turn around and tell them how shit it is.
Watched season 1 of Billions. Posted my criticisms (to the fury of those who thought it awesome because swearing and mild sex appeal). But I didn't come back for seasons 2 and 3 and 8.
 
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Biggest twist was Ned Stark being executed. After Joffrey gave the order I expected an arrow from the crowd or a riot and he'll be taken back into a cell. Then 2 seconds before it happens it sunk in.
 

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Biggest twist was Ned Stark being executed. After Joffrey gave the order I expected an arrow from the crowd or a riot and he'll be taken back into a cell. Then 2 seconds before it happens it sunk in.
Yep Ned was shocking to me because no show has ever killed a popular character so quickly

How naive I was by the time red wedding happened lol
 

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Why would being a Targ help with attracting the other houses compared to being a stark? The other houses revoluted against the Targs. They hate them.
They revolted against a particularly bad leader rather than the house itself. And not all - there was a war/rebellion fought over it, some where on the Targ's side. But there would have come a point where it becomes obvious Robert is going to win and it then becomes about the survival of your house. You bend the knee to Robert despite not being all that enamoured with him and still secretley preferring a Targ (ideally one who doesn't burn people alive for fun).

The fact that Viserys and Dany did have the help and machinations that got her married to Drogo indicates that there was support - Varys, Illyrio, Jorah, we assume others of power or influence.
 

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True but it wasnt very big. It didnt make you go wooh this changes everything and it came from nowhere.

As soon as the dragon went down we knew he was going to be a dragon zombie. There was no wow moment when they were pulling him up with the chains as we already knew it would happen. Plus a dragon zombie isnt really that much of a big deal.
Ha. notsureifserious.jpg

How about prior to the dragon going down though? Not sure it can be dismissed just because an event happens, enabling people to then predict what happens in literally the next whitewalker scene.

A twist would be a major character dying unexpectedly in the next episode. Not just the B grade characters that we all expect to die. Greyworm and brienne dying wont be a twist. Dany or sansa or arya would be.
And in the case of a main character, that info/direction would have come from GRRM.

The way you're framing it, the show runners literally cannot win.
 

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I think this will happen " When the army of the undead line up for the battle of Winterfell, the Night King and his zombie dragon will not be there, Instead he will already be near to his next target … King’s Landing.”
 

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I think this will happen " When the army of the undead line up for the battle of Winterfell, the Night King and his zombie dragon will not be there, Instead he will already be near to his next target … King’s Landing.”
Saves money if you have to have Three dragons fighting over a massive battle that would already cost a fortune.

Very likely the episode doesn't feature dragons all that much
 
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Agree that the twist was killing the dragon in the first place. Once it was dead, raising it was a fait accompli.

We will never see a twist the size of the Red Wedding now that the books are ancient history.
Ah, so we can at least agree that there was a twist.

You'll never see a twist the size of the Red Wedding in the future books either.
 
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Lots of warnings to characters not able to fight to go to the crypts. White walkers are able to raise the dead. Am I the only one considering the idea that those that are buried in the crypts might be raised? If this happens, will Jon be forced to kill his mother as a white?
 

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Lots of warnings to characters not able to fight to go to the crypts. White walkers are able to raise the dead. Am I the only one considering the idea that those that are buried in the crypts might be raised? If this happens, will Jon be forced to kill his mother as a white?
If you read this thread you would see the idea has been mentioned at least 20 times.
 
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Which brings us back to the point I was making - the writers haven't come up with a single twist since leaving the books behind. Jon's lineage was heavily foreshadowed in the books, so it certainly doesn't count as a twist created by the writers.
See below

To be fair to the writers, the show gets so heavily dissected and hypothesised upon there's no possible twist left that someone, somewhere hasn't already theorised.

The impact of Jon's parentage reveal was definitely one example ruined by the internet.

Biggest twists in the books were Ned’s execution and the red wedding. There have been others like joffreys murder and Tyrion killing his father but nothing on the scale of the first two

We don’t know what twists there are (or aren’t) intended in later books because they haven’t been written

Then to take up from esti’s point it’s hard to come up with a twist because this show gets dissected to within an inch of its life like no other before it

For example, the long dead starks rising from the crypts would count as a major plot twist but will be dismissed because it’s already been thought of

I’m already surprised from this season as I’d assumed the final battle would be men vs the dead army after Cersei had already attacked winterfell from the south. Appears that these battles are going to be in the opposite order to what I’d thought. (Maybe I’m just dumb though)
 
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