TV Game of Thrones Season VII

Who will die next week?


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Bender571

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I think we can assume that not much time was lost returning to KL, and that Euron's superior seamanship enabled him to be hot on the Unsullied heels as opposed to requiring teleportation, which is only an explanation if you are going out of your way to find plot holes, which you are.
There's also the fact that Euron just made the trip from the Iron islands to King's Landing, so if he's doing the reverse he would be well informed about reefs, currents, wind conditions, etc. Whereas the unsullied wouldn't have a clue.
 

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I wonder what other tidbits Bran will pop up with?

Letting the Vale guys know that Littlefinger dumped Lady Arryn out of the moon door?
I doubt he would know that. Im not sure exactly how all this greensight stuff works. But it has something to do with Weirwood trees, blood, children of the forest, etc. I doubt he'd know about what happened in the Vale.

Also, telling the Vale about Lysa's death wouldnt help anyone as Sana covered it up.
 
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One could assume though that she passed on that the Dany's forces would attack Casterly Rock in order to make sure that there was little in the way of defensive resistance for Greyworm.

I think Missandei has some greater purpose in this story, but being a spy I'm not convinced about.
Perhaps. Also, she did seem very particularly worried for his fate, and that could be perceived as a manifestation of her deep seated guilt rather than just loving concern. But I struggle to believe she could ever betray Dany, who has done and meant so much to her
 

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Missandei clearly genuinely loves Grey Worm. Hard to imagine she would happily be passing on information that leads to him quite possibly getting killed as a direct result of her actions.

I can't see it whatsoever on so many levels
Shae and Tyrion were in love also, never assume anything.

Or for historical context look up Mata Hari, men can be weak to the charms of certain ladies.
 

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Dorne is the interesting one. In the books, the people were incensed at the death of the Red Viper. Having Ellaria & the Sand Snakes killed/captured by Euron/Lannisters is only going to make matters worse. The problem is that the leadership there has been completely decapitated - Ellaria killed Doran Martell & his family, then Euron & the Lannisters took her out (along with the Sand Snakes). There are no obvious heirs or successors to lead the Dornish army against the Lannisters. The Dornish people would definitely side with Dany, against the Lannisters, but they have nobody left to lead them.
What about Daario Naharis and the Second Sons? If they came from Mereen, they would land in Dorne first.

Plenty of veteran fighters in the Second Sons and could easily see the dashing Daario arriving with the Dornish army at his back and Dany getting all moist.

Added Melisandre is heading back that way so one might expect to see lots of Red Priests etc eventually turn up for battle (maybe).
 

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Just on the Tyrell army , or seeming weakness. Didnt Jaime have a chat with Tarly about switching sides? And getting a plum post?
He definitely did. However Tyrells themselves would still have a large force. But it is unclear (due to non linear timelines) when that defection came and therefore whether, when planning the attacks in the war room, if Olenna was counting on all of the Reach or just her loyal side (i.e excluding Tarly)
 

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The gift Euron spoke about, is it certain that the gift is or was a sand snake and her mother?
Yes.

He looked at them, said "My Queen, please accept this gift on behalf of all of your loyal subjects on the Iron Islands", and laid them down before Cersei.
 

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The one issue I have, apparently the entire Tyrell army was in the great sept.

Not sure on how the Tyrells were depicted by the QOT either.

The Tyrells have certainly been known for their warfare across history, or otherwise they wouldn't control the South.
 
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The one issue I have, apparently the entire Tyrell army was in the great sept.

Not sure on how the Tyrells were depicted by the QOT either.

The Tyrells have certainly been known for their warfare across history, or otherwise they wouldn't control the South.
What is the issue with the first point? There was a large number of Tyrell soldiers in KL shortly before the Sept explosion. They may have stayed around

The Tyrell's were granted the role of Warden of the South by Aegon the Conquerer because the opened the gates of Highgarden for Aegon to come in and kill the Gardeners who were the Kings at the time. Once given the role of Warden of the South they get to rule because the Targaryens allow them.

I'm not sure if they are the biggest, strongest or richest family in the Reach. The Hightowers, Redwynes, Florents and Tarlys could give them a run
 
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What is the issue with the first point? There was a large number of Tyrell soldiers in KL shortly before the Sept explosion. They may have stayed around

The Tyrell's were granted the role of Warden of the South by Aegon the Conquerer because the opened the gates of Highgarden for Aegon to come in and kill the Gardeners who were the Kings at the time. Once given the role of Warden of the South they get to rule because the Targaryens allow them.

I'm not sure if they are the biggest, strongest or richest family in the Reach. The Hightowers, Redwynes, Florents and Tarlys could give them a run

So presumably an army of 20,000+ fits inside of a church and gets whiped out?

Olena is then the head of the house and returns to Highgarden but her army stays around? I doubt it.

As for fighting is not their thing, id disagree with that sentiment from the book content and apart from the Tarly's who have turned, presumably the Hightowers, Redwynes and Florents would of been involved in the defense of Highgarden as the bannermen of the Tyrells.
 
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So presumably an army of 20,000+ fits inside of a church and gets whiped out?

Olena is then the head of the house and returns to Highgarden but her army stays around? I doubt it.

As for fighting is not their thing, id disagree with that sentiment from the book content and apart from the Tarly's who have turned, presumably the Hightowers, Redwynes and Florents would of been involved in the defense of Highgarden as the bannermen of the Tyrells.
- Doesnt have to be all of them, but it isnt a stretch to think a good number died in the explosion (it wasn't just the Sept that went up).
- Yes what is left of her army would go back with her. But does the Tyrell army defeat the Lannister, Tarly and other Reach houses (see below)?
- Pretty sure there is dialogue between Jaime and Randall Tarly saying that if Tarly switches some of the other lords will as well (which would significantly change the numbers)
 

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Yes.

He looked at them, said "My Queen, please accept this gift on behalf of all of your loyal subjects on the Iron Islands", and laid them down before Cersei.
Oh my bad, as in when he told her in episode 1 he'd bring back a gif, was it certain then it was going to be the sandy snakes.
 
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