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jake said:I agree that we overrated him. He was a very good defender, but to be realistic, he always struggled when outmuscled. Throughout his career it seemed that he got spanked by Carey, Lynch, Lockett and Lloyd seemingly more often than it should happen to the best going around. There was also a fairly lean batch of quality big forwards early in his career. Big Sav - LMAO. If we are going back 4, 5 or 6 years, I actually think that Hay and Fletcher were far better.
Cannot doubt that he has always given 110% and used what he has got to its best potential.
deadset wrong mate, for a skinny bloke he was very good against bigger opponents, deceptively strong. He shut out carey a fair few times, lynch never took him to the cleaners, did well on tredders, and lloyd was nigh on unstoppable in 2000-2001 wen the bombers owned ass, even then he never did anything wrong and never got absolutley pasted. check the stats im sure im right on this, actually i know im right, he was the best negator in the business bar none, the thing that let him down was his kicking.



