Review Gather Round, 2025 vs Hawthorn (and umps)

[True__Believer]

Was a great strong mark.. will be a good player and needs to be played again

We haven't had a decent mid sized forward that can hold a mark and is good at ground level for ages. I hope he can develop into a player similar to Ben Long at the Suns

 

[Waspy79]

Has there ever been a more unlikeable team than this years hawks?

The Hawks are a despicable club. There should never be a time where you might consider them even remotely likeable. Their bandwagon entitled fans are also worst in league.

 

[JimmyBC]

Lord got too close to the man on the mark which means he was twitchy and not concentrating on his routine it's where a senior head should come over and settle him before a shot. He looked more tuned in to his set shots the other week, anyway still did some nice things stick with it.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I dont even think the umpiring was that bad. I mean most of the decisions weren't howlers. What was obvious though was the blatant ignoring if our frees. Watching Meek pull Sweets jumper, or have his arms over his shoulders for zilch. Several clear as day HTBs just blatantly ignored, etc. Just unbelievable that they can be allowed to operate in such a biased fashion.

Strange post. You say the umpiring wasn't that bad, then give a bunch of reasons why the umpiring was that bad.

It really was that bad. It was them getting free kick after free kick that was driving the crowd mad.

Speaking of the crowd, this game had a serious finals atmosphere. The crowd was really into it, ripping into Sicily and Ginnivan. Unlike the crows, we don't go feral on our former players, nothing directed at Amon or Impey.

 

[JHF1870]

Ratagulea doesn't show in the stats but thought he had a good game.

Here's my ratings. I haven't given a bonus for score assists this season but next will include. Zak had 4 so he was the standout tonight.

10​	Zak Butters	75.5​
9​	Connor Rozee	72​
8​	Willem Drew	64​
7​	Jason Horne-Francis	63.5​
6​	Jordon Sweet	54​
5​	Mitch Georgiades	50​
4​	Willie Rioli	48​
3​	Kane Farrell	42​
2​	Jase Burgoyne	41.5​
1​	Joe Richards	40.5​

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Like the look of Cochrane.

Some may say that Kane Mitchell was built like a barrel, but i think Cochrane has much more barrel tendency.

He's just a good short, flat man.

He has bloody good hands overhead and tackles like a 25 year old. Just wants to be there.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

 

[JimmyBC]

Ratagulea doesn't show in the stats but thought he had a good game.

Here's my ratings. I haven't given a bonus for score assists this season but next will include. Zak had 4 so he was the standout tonight.

10​	Zak Butters	75.5​
9​	Connor Rozee	72​
8​	Willem Drew	64​
7​	Jason Horne-Francis	63.5​
6​	Jordon Sweet	54​
5​	Mitch Georgiades	50​
4​	Willie Rioli	48​
3​	Kane Farrell	42​
2​	Jase Burgoyne	41.5​
1​	Joe Richards	40.5​

Esava has been good since he returned to the side IMO so that's what three decent games, he's not a world beater but that's all he has to do just the simple backman stuff.

 

[jackag24]

Was a great strong mark.. will be a good player and needs to be played again

Took a similar mark in that game against Essendon aswell. Very strong overhead, and a one grabber

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Gunston had the most unmemorable 6 goal game I've seen. Seemed all his goals came on the back of umpiring or bludging out the back on the turnover or hope Hoks would win a ball in midfield.

 

[JHF1870]

This is my count to round 5, (Stat based on impact)

	PAFC POTY (Round 5)	Count
1​	Connor Rozee	33​
2​	Ollie Wines	32​
3​	Jason Horne-Francis	31​
4​	Jase Burgoyne	20​
5​	Jordon Sweet	20​
6​	Zak Butters	19​
7​	Willem Drew	18​
8​	Miles Bergman	14​
9​	Mitch Georgiades	14​
10​	Aliir Aliir	14​

 

[JHF1870]

Esava has been good since he returned to the side IMO so that's what three decent games, he's not a world beater but that's all he has to do just the simple backman stuff.

So glad Evans got dropped. Hopefully he comes back better, but Esava really cemented his position. Was watching one particular play, and even before the Hawks player kicked it, I knew he was going to get it.

 

[PJ Power]

Esava has been good since he returned to the side IMO so that's what three decent games, he's not a world beater but that's all he has to do just the simple backman stuff.

He also didn't turn over any short kicks in dangerous areas. I liked that he played the percentages. A couple of outmarked contests against Sicily, but otherwise solid game.

 

[JimmyBC]

He also didn't turn over any short kicks in dangerous areas. I liked that he played the percentages. A couple of outmarked contests against Sicily, but otherwise solid game.

Yea I recall one contest I didn't like where he just lost contact too easily, but then if it wasn't Esava I doubt I'd have been that nitpicky just about every KPD bar hall of famers have a few of those per game including Aliir.

 

[Willsy10]

I think the umps got some instructions in their ear piece in the 3rd quarter. Reminded me a lot of the second quarter of the semi final last year.

 

[Chewy316]

Needs to be said that Hawthorn were coming off a bye the week before, so I'm not surprised in the slightest that they had the obvious fresher legs in the final quarter.

Plenty of good signs from tonight. They were running with purpose, creating space, and more often than not, using handballs to open channels as opposed to handballing to a stationary target which more often than not, invites pressure and thus a turnover.

I don't have the full stats yet, but Port scored 8.3 from turnover in the first half compared to 1.1 for the Hawks. And most importantly, ground ball in the first half was 63-41 in Port's favour.

Port are typically a shit ground ball team. When they break even on that, it does wonders for their overall success.

Personnel wise, Ratugolea had arguably his best game for the club (his shutdown on Larkey is the benchmark imo). Just looked so assured of himself down there. If he can play to that standard more often than not, Port's defence will get a major leg up.

Rozee to half back helped but I'm not convinced it will be a long term thing. We'll see on that front.

On to Easter Sunday in the harbour city. Get back to 3-3 and suddenly things are back on track.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

He is coming on tremendously. Only criticism is he misses/fails to stick too many tackles. Once he gets that right we have a complete player

He needs some bulking. Bulking season needs to come hard for him.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Burgoyne is looking really confident out there. Becoming a really important player for us, been great to watch his development

Love to see him at half back, him and Rozee would be a pretty exciting half back line

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

Needs to be said that Hawthorn were coming off a bye the week before, so I'm not surprised in the slightest that they had the obvious fresher legs in the final quarter.

Plenty of good signs from tonight. They were running with purpose, creating space, and more often than not, using handballs to open channels as opposed to handballing to a stationary target which more often than not, invites pressure and thus a turnover.

I don't have the full stats yet, but Port scored 8.3 from turnover in the first half compared to 1.1 for the Hawks. And most importantly, ground ball in the first half was 63-41 in Port's favour.

Port are typically a shit ground ball team. When they break even on that, it does wonders for their overall success.

Personnel wise, Ratugolea had arguably his best game for the club (his shutdown on Larkey is the benchmark imo). Just looked so assured of himself down there. If he can play to that standard more often than not, Port's defence will get a major leg up.

Rozee to half back helped but I'm not convinced it will be a long term thing. We'll see on that front.

On to Easter Sunday in the harbour city. Get back to 3-3 and suddenly things are back on track.

Port took the gas off the pedal and losing Bergman meant Ratugolea had to play on Sicily and he got outsmarted multiple times. Other than that, Rats played a good game and didn't have any loopy 25 metre kicks.

It really does put in prospective that Port could have easily been 4-1 since Essendon and St Kilda are no way near as good as Hawthorn but the reality is Port lost those two games and now has to play catch up for the next month and we can then reassess where Port truly are at the moment.

I think that moving Rozee to half-back enabled Port to have a more balanced midfield and it meant, there is more opportunities for the other midfielders to win the ground ball. JHF was a monster with his physicality and his desire to want to win the ball.

The Swans beat Port last time after we defeated Hawthorn in the semi-finals. I wonder if Port will be able to back it up against the Swans this time and not bomb it inside 50 and being one dimensional with the forward entries.

Everything just clicked in the first half, players were running hard, not being too handball happy. Second half is meh and didn't help that Hawthorn had the rub of the green with the frees. Jordan Sweet does need to stop giving away frees in dangerous spots though and his hitouts were left a little to be desired at times especially in that third quarter where the hawks smashed Port in the contested possessions.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Esava has been good since he returned to the side IMO so that's what three decent games, he's not a world beater but that's all he has to do just the simple backman stuff.

I was probably the most vocal on here about his play as a key forward last season but I think he's fine as a 2nr or 3rd KPD. Puts his body on the line, doesn't overcommit and leave too many gaps, he's pretty good one on one, good athlete etc.

 

[El_Scorcho]

We definitely got our gameplan working in the first half. Rozee to halfback was a masterstroke, just seemed to balance the midfield better and gave us an excellent ball user that we've lacked a bit at halfback.

All the bleating over the last couple of weeks about the list being nowhere near it was bullshit. We can absolutely match it with the best, even with 3 starting KPPs out. Our problem, as usual, is that we play on emotion and it's unsustainable. The players hear the pressure mounting on the coach and come out breathing fire, and then that intensity fades away as they realise the job is done and the pressure is released. They can't just bring intensity because it's their job, they need an external pressure to make it happen.

If Geelong were up by 10 goals at half time they'd have won by at least 100. We piss away 70 points of percentage for nothing. We did the same against Richmond where we turned a 65 point halftime lead into a 72 point win instead of going for the jugular.

 

[JHF1870]

He needs some bulking. Bulking season needs to come hard for him.

Not really. Technique plays a huge role in effective tackles.

 

[PowerLil]

"Kenny doesn't deserve it (the criticism), he's the spearhead of our club, we love him so much and we're forever in debt to him"

- Connor Rozee

Get a grip Connor.

 

[x_les_x]

Apart from the mental fortitude and demons that haunt the Hinkley era where we barely win by a sizeable margin or put teams to the sword so to speak is that recently, especially evident this year. We dont have the fitness base to actually do it.

 

[Traveling_Power]

The London Blitz 1940 (Colourised) ​

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there were a few people doing this at the ground (and Gunston was getting annoyed at it)