Over the last 11 years Hawthorn have won 4 flags, Geelong have won 3. Hawthorn won 3 in a row. Hawthorn are better. Top 4 means stuff all if you can't convert.
I said top 2, not top 4.
Premierships 2007-2017
Hawthorn 4
Geelong 3
Sydney 1
Collingwood 1
Western Bulldogs 1
If Geelong win the flag, then that could be said about them, until then though....
Should be 4 flags each after this season, then the Hawks won't have anything to hang their hat on, as we have them covered in every other statistical measure there is.
Geez 8 times top 2. That is outstanding. Basically means at least two finals in Victoria each year.
One wonders how I've had any money left for spring racing carnival after constantly ponying up for finals tickets.
I know it's ridiculous, although on the flip side, since we never have to leave Victoria to play finals, it means I save money as I don't have to pay for flights and a hotel.
We've finished 2nd in 6 of the last 9 seasons too, it seems as though it's our favourite spot on the ladder.
Hard to respect Geelong because they cheat.
Did Steven Trigg and Kurt Tippett slip your mind or something?
Also, if we did cheat, then our club is even better run than I thought, to run a club wide doping program and get away with it completely would be unprecedented.