Geelong 2007 vs Hawthorn 2014 - who would win?

[Leeda]

2008. The gift that keeps on giving

taut and terrific.. bullock and barista... they don't know how good they are... or where...

 

[Leeda]

sheesh sheep is walking over my pillow... now that is driving the bus...

 

[My Tilly]

I'd have Buddy at number 3. Dunstall and Hudson at 1 and 2. Brereton has a case for 3 or 4. I'd have Ablett Snr at 5 - I guess that's why we let him go

Dunstall, Matthews, Brereton, Buckenara, Ablett ...... that would have been the greatest forward line in history.
The other Hawthorn forward who often gets overlooked, and only played till 83 was Moncrieff. Terrific player.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

2008. The gift that keeps on giving

Is there some deleted posts I'm missing here? What's got you harking back to glory days?

 

[Leeda]

And here the 'meek' inherits a chance to belt the nemesis..don't ask why!
Be clean,clinical and carry a weapon....

 

[Balance]

Are you kidding? look at the size of those roid monsters.

 

[Leeda]

Stormin' numerical...flying by the pants of my seat...

 

[ChappyUK]

Think I'd rather play Hawks 2019.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

I'd have Buddy at number 3. Dunstall and Hudson at 1 and 2. Brereton has a case for 3 or 4. I'd have Ablett Snr at 5 - I guess that's why we let him go

I can only assume your calling Matthews a midfielder?

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Dunstall, Matthews, Brereton, Buckenara, Ablett ...... that would have been the greatest forward line in history.
The other Hawthorn forward who often gets overlooked, and only played till 83 was Moncrieff. Terrific player.

Think I'll that forward line without Ablett.

Phenomenal highlights package (best ever), but p1ss poor team player.

 

[My Tilly]

Think I'll that forward line without Ablett.

Phenomenal highlights package (best ever), but p1ss poor team player.

Yeh' same crap most Ablett haters sprout aloud!
Was a very good team player if you are talking goal assists (80's Ablett) and sticking up for teammates but off the field, perhaps he let his teammates down but you and I never knew the man so can't give opinions on that but as for games, we have that on film to study and analyze.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Yeh' same crap most Ablett haters sprout aloud!
Was a very good team player if you are talking goal assists (80's Ablett) and sticking up for teammates but off the field, perhaps he let his teammates down but you and I never knew the man so can't give opinions on that but as for games, we have that on film to study and analyze.

Wouldn't consider myself an 'Ablett-hater'- I consider him the #3 GOAT behind only Lethal and The King.

As counter-intuitive as it seems, I know it was a good thing for my club when he left post-1982. What made us great throughout that era is at odds with what he possesses, despite his unparalleled talent. And I base that on conversations and relationships I've had with people in AFL circles better placed than most to judge.

Each to their own though.

 

[My Tilly]

Wouldn't consider myself an 'Ablett-hater'- I consider him the #3 GOAT behind only Lethal and The King.

As counter-intuitive as it seems, I know it was a good thing for my club when he left post-1982. What made us great throughout that era is at odds with what he possesses, despite his unparalleled talent. And I base that on conversations and relationships I've had with people in AFL circles better placed than most to judge.

Each to their own though.

Your saying his absence was better for Hawthorn.
I think he would have pushed out someone like Curran or Morrissey and averaged 70 goals per year on a half forward flank.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Your saying his absence was better for Hawthorn.
I think he would have pushed out someone like Curran or Morrissey and averaged 70 goals per year on a half forward flank.

I am saying his absence was better for Hawthorn.

Of course on pure ability he'd get a game. He'd probably be the first picked. But building a premiership team and culture involves more than just talent. The Hawks of the 80's / early 90's was built on discipline and a team-first ethos, he would've been a cancer amongst the likes of the likes of Lethal, Dermie, Dipper, Dunstall etc.

 

[ForeverHardcore]

Head to head
R Ottens vs McEvoy ottens
Rr Ablett vs Mitchell Ablett
Centre Bartel vs Burgoyne Burgoyne
Rover Ling vs shiels Ling
Wing Corey vs Lewis Lewis
Wing j Kelly vs b hill kelly
Half forwards stevie j vs Breust Stevie j
CHF Mooney vs Gunston Gunston
Half forward rooke vs Smith smith
Pocket Chapman vs Puopolo Chappy
Ff Ablett vs rough rough
Pocket stokes vs Cyril Cyril
Back pocket milburn vs Stratton milburn
Full back Scarlett vs lake Scarlett
Back pocket hunt vs Birchall Birchall
Half back Enright vs hodge hodge
Chb Harley vs Gibson Gibson
Half back Mackie vs suckling Mackie
Bench Selwood woj king Byrnes
Vs Langford Spangher Hale duryea
Selwood tips the cats bench over the line

Cats win 10-9
Be a mighty game

 

[Vespa]

This hypothetical match up is every footy fan's wet dream.

Two of the all time great sides at the absolute peak of their powers.

 

[ChappyUK]

Geelong 2007, 2009 and 2011 would be Hawthorn 2014.

 

[Vespa]

Geelong 2007, 2009 and 2011 would be Hawthorn 2014.

Would the Geelong 2008 and Geelong 2010 sides roll the Hawthorn 2014 sides as well?

Geelong fell short in those years but they were a force to be reckoned with through the whole 2007-2011 period.

Their 2008 and 2010 sides would probably roll many premiership sides from other years.

 

[Pessimistic]

Head to head
R Ottens vs McEvoy ottens
Rr Ablett vs Mitchell Ablett
Centre Bartel vs Burgoyne Burgoyne
Rover Ling vs shiels Ling
Wing Corey vs Lewis Lewis
Wing j Kelly vs b hill kelly
Half forwards stevie j vs Breust Stevie j
CHF Mooney vs Gunston Gunston
Half forward rooke vs Smith smith
Pocket Chapman vs Puopolo Chappy
Ff Ablett vs rough rough
Pocket stokes vs Cyril Cyril
Back pocket milburn vs Stratton milburn
Full back Scarlett vs lake Scarlett
Back pocket hunt vs Birchall Birchall
Half back Enright vs hodge hodge
Chb Harley vs Gibson Gibson
Half back Mackie vs suckling Mackie
Bench Selwood woj king Byrnes
Vs Langford Spangher Hale duryea
Selwood tips the cats bench over the line

Cats win 10-9
Be a mighty game

buddy on the hawks bench

 

[Seeds]

Geelong was better in 2011 than 2007.

 

[Yojimbo]

Geelong was better in 2011 than 2007.

2007:

Geel- 12, 12, 11, 8 = 43
Port- 4, 3, 3, 4 = 14
Geel- 17.38
Port- 58.33

2009:

Geel- 3, 5, 5, 7 = 20
StK- 5, 9, 6, 3 = 23
Geel- 29.50
StK- 35.67

2011:

Geel- 7, 7, 6, 9 = 29
Coll- 6, 6, 6, 3 = 21
Geel- 18.39
Coll- 27.67

It takes two to tango.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Hawthorn 2014, Hodge and Mitchell would make Ablett and Selwood cry

 

[Seeds]

2007:

Geel- 12, 12, 11, 8 = 43
Port- 4, 3, 3, 4 = 14
Geel- 17.38
Port- 58.33

2009:

Geel- 3, 5, 5, 7 = 20
StK- 5, 9, 6, 3 = 23
Geel- 29.50
StK- 35.67

2011:

Geel- 7, 7, 6, 9 = 29
Coll- 6, 6, 6, 3 = 21
Geel- 18.39
Coll- 27.67

It takes two to tango.

Ive got no idea what those numbers are?

 

[Seeds]

Hawthorn 2014, Hodge and Mitchell would make Ablett and Selwood cry

Um hodge and mitchell were at their peak in 2007-11. They are both retired whilst ablett and selwood still play. Ling tagged hodge out of almost every game. Mitchell played well against geelong though. Selwood and ablett both regularly dominated hawthorn.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Um hodge and mitchell were at their peak in 2007-11. They are both retired whilst ablett and selwood still play. Ling tagged hodge out of almost every game. Mitchell played well against geelong though. Selwood and ablett both regularly dominated hawthorn.

Yet not when it mattered in 2008