yawn here is some reality for you 16 > 13. Do you remember the maths I posted in here like 100 pages ago - i was being fair and said fine - lets see who reached 13th first...your club sadly lagged behind the best clubs still - so its doesn't matter YOU and the clowns here think you are the best team since entering the comp - you are not and the math proves it.
Yes I have seen your very selective and biased formula and it doesn't take a lot of factor into account. The first 1 that there were only 8 teams in the competition, then 30 years later 12 and then progressively more.
So Hawthorn achieved their 13 against far more opposition which makes it harder to win premierships. 1 in 8 chance VS 1 in 12-18 chance. Massive difference and that is why the law of averages is a more valid way of working it out, and that still leave the advantage of those teams playing in an 8 team comp.
Who really care what happened before WW1? Or even WW2. You care a lot about premierships even you parents and possibly grandparents were even alive for to witness.
You played against 3 shithouse interstate sides who weren't even as good as Port in 07. Plus you had home ground advantage in all three games unlike us. Horrible era of Footy.
Yep ... sending Rookie over to see those East German doctors is where the PED abuse started, "calf blood" ... bahahahaaaaaaa ... sure it was, just like the East Germans in the 1972 / 1976 Olympics .. disgraceful cheats!
The AFL can't have another team dragged through the WADA courts ... they seem to be doing everything to stop the reopening of the WADA investigation
Geelong* will always be remembered for their "what ever it takes" regime ... to even compare them to the immortal Hawthorn 2013-2015 team is a joke, we didn't need to cheat .. we had class all over the park
Doctor is actually from Western Germany. Nice try though.
He has also helped two Richmond players so technically, the AFL should strip Richmond of the flags they won in this period. Oh wait.. AND Sydney people visited him once in 2007. Shock horror. Everyone is bad except for Hawthorn.
Yes I have seen your very selective and biased formula and it doesn't take a lot of factor into account. The first 1 that there were only 8 teams in the competition, then 30 years later 12 and then progressively more.
So Hawthorn achieved their 13 against far more opposition which makes it harder to win premierships. 1 in 8 chance VS 1 in 12-18 chance. Massive difference and that is why the law of averages is a more valid way of working it out, and that still leave the advantage of those teams playing in an 8 team comp.
Who really care what happened before WW1? Or even WW2. You care a lot about premierships even you parents and possibly grandparents were even alive for to witness.
Doctor is actually from Western Germany. Nice try though.
He has also helped two Richmond players so technically, the AFL should strip Richmond of the flags they won in this period. Oh wait.. AND Sydney people visited him once in 2007. Shock horror. Everyone is bad except for Hawthorn.
LOL that's kind of the point, Collingwood are perennial Grand Final losers now. The 4 peat happened almost a century ago, then came the Colliwobbles.
I'm humiliating your weak arguments yet again. Doesn't say much for you
Bud, you've already confirmed yourself to be as unaware as a freshly laid dog turd so nows the time to just stop emphasizing the point. Fuarkin lawl...
It doesn't really matter when it started, just that the Colliwobbles exist. Chef obviously doesn't know the difference between the relevance of a sustained history of failure and prior successes or he chooses to ignore it in order to try and build up Geelong's weak 'dynasty'.
I wouldn't want to twist my way out of the facts. Collingwood have a long run of Grand Final failures, and 2011 was just one of them. That's kind of what you've been trying to deny, with some pretty weak efforts.
I wouldn't want to twist my way out of the facts. Collingwood have a long run of Grand Final failures, and 2011 was just one of them. That's kind of what you've been trying to deny, with some pretty weak efforts.
Once again you're run out of arguments so are just trying to re-write reality for yourself. Can't blame you for trying, but facts are facts regardless of your reluctance to acknowledge them.