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It's just the usual 'but-but-but-Richmond!' brigade. They see anything about Geelong and start pounding away on their keyboard, bless their hearts.
Geelong and Umpires: Time for a Royal Commission?
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No it doesn’t. Without fail every one of these threads has a huge Richmond contingent giving not a neutral view but an incredibly biased on and given that it’s their club who has enjoyed recent success it is odd
Go through and do it yourself then
It's a thread about Geelong and all I read from Cats supporters is Richmond this Richmond that, so yes just a teeny weeny bit ironic.
The neutral view is that Geelong and Hawkins in particular get a regular reach around from the umpires.
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Haha don't even try it. Top poster in this thread is a Tiggy, but-but-but-Richmond strikes again!
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There is a certain sub-sect of Richmond supporters who will never get over what GAS did to them during their formative years supporting Richmond
Didn't say you did. The phrase "Geelong umps" was simply meant as the umps umpiring the Geelong game "champ".
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Neutral supporter happens to have a view which doesnt favour Geelong.
Geelong fans:- you're not neutral
#rentfree and flag free
What does that even mean? Slapping together random words doesn’t mean that I’ve actually done what you’ve claiming I’ve done, or any other Geelong fans.
The fact is no one can talk about a cats subject without you and a gaggle of fellows claiming some new and ever stupider conspiracy about umpiring or fixturing or MRP and the continual insistence you have on somehow trying to relate anything back to Richmond or some preconception that we have a chip on our shoulder about your club just highlights this fact
Neutral supporter happens to have a view which doesnt favour Geelong.
Geelong fans:- you're not neutral
#rentfree and flag free
He’s not a neutral fan.
A neutral fan would analyse facts and figures and come to the pretty straightforward conclusion that Geelong like most teams will occasionally benefit from poor umpiring, and microcosmically so too will Tom Hawkins. 16 seasons of evidence which shows he doesn’t get looked after at all, highlights the fact that, again, it’s not a neutral view: if it was, his view would be that he’s on the lower side of umpire favouritism. It’s not hard to access simple numbers
Oh the irony. Did I imagine the 24 frees to 17 free kick count in your favour last year?
Of all teams supporters yours remains the whiniest.
Still waiting for you to hand the flags back to the umpires who won you a couple of big preliminary finals.
Let's compare Hawkins to a couple of his peers over the last couple of seasons. Since the beginning of 2019 to Rd 3 2022 the average frees for and against have been:
The idea that Hawkins is an umpires' pet just isn't based in reality.
| Avg frees for | Avg frees against | |
| Lance Franklin | 1.26 | 1.71 |
| Jack Riewoldt | 0.79 | 0.98 |
| Josh Kennedy | 0.78 | 0.98 |
| Charlie Dixon | 1.47 | 1.12 |
| Tom Hawkins | 0.49 | 1.12 |
The idea that Hawkins is an umpires' pet just isn't based in reality.
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Should there be a royal commission after the freo vs giants game?
Freo had 42 free kicks to GWS only had 16
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How we all doing this morning? Feeling any better?
That one was not in the back, IMO.View attachment 1367195
Why was this clear in the back free not paid to Close with 7 mins remaining?
Brisbane conspiracy, corrupt AFL, cheat ground etc etc.
Never change BigFooty
As I posted earlier, it was a classic case of a player trying to milk a free by lunging forward, hoping the Brisbane player would fall into his back.
But he didn't. He managed to avoid it.
From that angle, especially the single frame you chose to use, it looks like he landed on his back - but the other angle which Ch7 showed afterwards, showed that he didn't actually land on his back.
The lunge forward was all the Geelong player's doing, he was not pushed. And the Lion's player didn't land in his back. So play on.
Geelong fans would know this technique as the 'Paul Chapman special', he made an art form of conning umpires with this move.
Carlton fans would probably now know it as the 'Cerra special' after he did about 5 times in the first couple of rounds.
Higgins from St. Kilda tries it about 5 times every week - but the umpires seem to be a wake up to him.
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I'll field this one ... No.
Royal Commission's should be reserved for situations where a strangly lopsided Free Kick Count happens every single week, sometimes to unfathomable levels, for 6 years straight.
In isolation, a lopsided Free Kick Count doesn't suggest or indicate anything unusual. But when it happens week in, week out for the same team, regardless of their ladder position and regardless of the result - then the Federal Government should really step in and get to the bottom of why.
The idea that Hawkins only infringes 1.2 times each week is simply ludicrous.
It should realistically be about 4. They really do let him get away with murder.
