I can't see there being overly complicated trigger, the player has to agree with it. It'd be less about governing behavior and more about providing an clear and achievable threshold. They'd also want to be able to balance the various triggers of different players the simpler the triggers are the easier it is to manage.
Review Geelong defeats St Kilda by 47 points at KP
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I can't see there being overly complicated trigger, the player has to agree with it. It'd be less about governing behavior and more about providing an clear and achievable threshold. They'd also want to be able to balance the various triggers of different players the simpler the triggers are the easier it is to manage.
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Bolded is 100%. Menzel and the team owes Hawk big time. Blows up his own personal success for team betterment.
And gets done dry by the maggots EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
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No idea, but Linc needs to play some games in the VFL first to see how his body is traveling
Having watched the replay ... it left me with the feeling of a mid rung team beating a bottom team. Positive was the form of our second level guys.. especially Menegola and Parfit and Stewart.
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Probably fair given the side we were fielding but I don’t think our 22 could have done much better really.
To this point of the season the two positives are (1) kids are showing something and (2) we are scrapping pretty well and should be better with players returning.
You say that every year.
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Its not a negative , just being realistic. We are not clean enough , we have structural weaknesses (that we are working on) .. Stk should have been 4.1 at quarter time.
There is plenty to like about what we have but id dont see a Premiership side atm. Most if not all of the young additions are holding their own and are competitive. The next three weeks will be more of an indication of where we stand. To balance that most , if not all of the sides have weaknesses and the sides that have had a buffet at the draft have yet to become dominant threats,
To be honest watching the Saints I wondered what Thompson would have done with that side... the sum of their parts seem to be less than it should be.
Henry , Guthrie , Fogerty all did some things expected of players at their stage of the career. Stanley even looked like he was trying to be assertive
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I guess I look at it differently. I’m not really interested in “premiership standard” as the yardstick at this stage of the season and given our outs. A bit like an Olympian saying he’s not going to win a gold while his ankle is in a cast - yeah, but so what? I’m more interested to see how the fill-ins stand up.
I went into the game thinking a win by a few goals was best case scenario with the 22 we had. To win by 7-8 goals was impressive. Pretty much the same margin Adelaide beat them by last week, by the way.
Thats fair. we are probably saying the same thing a different way. And it a long season etc. Im not convinced we are at peak fitness yet. As I said the next 3 weeks will tell us more.. winning against StK at home is nothing more than a game we should win. The 7-8 goal margin said more about the Saints and playing at KP than us imo. 7-8 over Port on their patch of dirt ..and then we will be talking more credit.
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I saw someone say in another thread that we should start tanking to get our hands on a couple of decent draft picks........If people havent learnt the lessons of Melbourne and Carlton by now, they never will.Yeah you're right, lets start bottoming out now so in a few years time we catch up with St Kilda and Carlton. As we all know bottoming out guarantees success and they are clearly on the up....
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Good to see you front up after a big win. Big effort by you.
they are ordinary. we need to accept we currently have a weak under 25 group ignoring the last years draft group which are just way too young to evaluate yet. However things are looking more promising now then they did pre season. Kelly is a huge addition to the under 25 talent. Esavas form so far is unexpected. He can mark the ball and has some x factor. But now needs to build fitness and learn to read the game. Kolo also has lifted a gear and now showing promise as a key defender now that he is being given a show in that position. Parfit is just carrying on from where he finished last season and looks to be A grade. Cockys injury problems are a massive downside though. The twenty minutes he played in the middle against west coast looked awesome. He may never make it with his injury problems though. Starting to look very Paul Lynch. Henry and Guthrie show great poise and may make solid players although neither will be stars. Bews is great at contests but his passing is horrible and will prvent him from becoming a great player. Thats pretty much it. For talls we have only one key forward and one defender under 25 with promise. That is a massive problem.
We are definately in the bottom half of the under 25 talent draw. However, pre season we looked like being in the bottom 2. Things are looking up but there is a long way to go.
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He's just banking on the eventuality that one day he'll be right.
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Anyone mentioned the atmosphere yet? It’s like the tennis for our home games, “quiet please”.
Could hear a pin drop all game.
Could hear a pin drop all game.
Hard to gauge how that win stacked up. I'll take it. It was 47 points but geez, St Kilda are terrible. They are a team that is very low on confidence and lacking star power. They have some warhorse midfielders but zero cream.
Menzel was great. Listening to him on the radio this morning, he mentioned that he's had his first pre-season in 7 years and is feeling the effects. Sounded a little pissed when Howie mentioned Scotts comments re small term contracts but played the "i've gotten my head around it" card. Could just hear it in his voice though.
Hawkins being a "professional decoy" at the moment. Taking two defenders and freeing up the forward line. I hope his team mates are buying his beers for him as he's earnt them. Selfless.
Of the young guys I thought Parfitt, Kelly, Fogarty, Henry and Cunico all played well. Sad on Gregson. Hope its not serious but he was due for a spell IMO. Give Constable a shot!!.
Blicavs finally at fullback. Geez the MC are bloody slow to make moves that are painfully obvious. Took a week too long to drop Parsons as well and it was odd he didn't play VFL. Could have taken another player as the carryover emergency for Sunday. He needs to find touch, not a rest.
Zuthrie time for a spell. Would bring in Thurlow. Solid again.
Big game this weekend. Danger ready to explode. 3 games under his belt, back in Adelaide. He will light it up I reckon.....and we'll need it.
Menzel was great. Listening to him on the radio this morning, he mentioned that he's had his first pre-season in 7 years and is feeling the effects. Sounded a little pissed when Howie mentioned Scotts comments re small term contracts but played the "i've gotten my head around it" card. Could just hear it in his voice though.
Hawkins being a "professional decoy" at the moment. Taking two defenders and freeing up the forward line. I hope his team mates are buying his beers for him as he's earnt them. Selfless.
Of the young guys I thought Parfitt, Kelly, Fogarty, Henry and Cunico all played well. Sad on Gregson. Hope its not serious but he was due for a spell IMO. Give Constable a shot!!.
Blicavs finally at fullback. Geez the MC are bloody slow to make moves that are painfully obvious. Took a week too long to drop Parsons as well and it was odd he didn't play VFL. Could have taken another player as the carryover emergency for Sunday. He needs to find touch, not a rest.
Zuthrie time for a spell. Would bring in Thurlow. Solid again.
Big game this weekend. Danger ready to explode. 3 games under his belt, back in Adelaide. He will light it up I reckon.....and we'll need it.
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Not all bad with Stanley. Beat his opponents, got a goal but most impressive was when he charged back with the flight of the ball to stop a certain goal.
Took a bit of courage.
Not many ruckman could of done that and was one of the plays of the day for mine.
Took a bit of courage.
Not many ruckman could of done that and was one of the plays of the day for mine.
I think he will to but Cunico might still yet. Had more Championship Star points
Completely agree with that.
What some people here don't seem to recognise is that we are undergoing a rebuilt right now whilst remaining competitive and a genuine contender.
I think that's the key takeaway from the game to be honest.
We were very inexperienced - Henry , Sav , Zuthrie, Fog , Cunico and even Parfitt and Menegola so to pretty much control the whole game and win by 47 points is not a bad effort.
We are far from a settled side so we can expect some inconsistency - as we know the young guys get sore and need management so it's going to be a struggle until we get the experienced guys back from injury.
If we can win 2 from the next 3 we will be in reasonable shape all things considered.
Still we are a long way behind the settled line ups like Giants , Tigers and Swans....................
Watching on the TV - it reminded me of the opera
Maybe we can blame that on the Saints - home supporters knew the Cats were allways going to win - and couldnt be bothered getting too excited or boisterous about it
